What do you Think Bloodborne's Sales mean for Sony/From/Souls going Forward
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it seems like the sony/from partnership is working extremely well, it's given us the souls series and bloodborne so far. hopefully they continue to work together. but the mainline souls series needs some time to rest and breathe imo, they should make some other games for a while.
I think PS4 owners were starving for a good exclusive and finally got one. I don't really think there is much more to it than that.
Mass Effect
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DLC obviously.
I don't think there is any chance we won't get a Dark Souls 3 (multiplatform of course). We know the games do well on PC and Xbox, they're not going to drop that audience.
We probably will, however, be getting a (PS4 exclusive) Bloodborne 2. And I'm fine with that.
I don't think there is any chance we won't get a Dark Souls 3 (multiplatform of course). We know the games do well on PC and Xbox, they're not going to drop that audience.
We probably will, however, be getting a (PS4 exclusive) Bloodborne 2. And I'm fine with that.
TimeEffect
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Hopefully a nice expansion before working on a bigger and better sequel.
Big NG+ improvements/ New items, content, and things that change the game up for everyone would be very welcome.
The payoff being that there are new expansive areas that sprinkle these new items around, to make exploration feel rewarding again
Big NG+ improvements/ New items, content, and things that change the game up for everyone would be very welcome.
The payoff being that there are new expansive areas that sprinkle these new items around, to make exploration feel rewarding again
I don't think they will make another BB game (sure DLC to flesh out some story but not a full blown BB2), only because what is going to be the story? The story revolves around Yharnam and are they just going to do a DS2 story switcheroo where the ending of the first one was the bad ending and didn't change shit so your character in BB2 has to go through the whole thing again? Going to be about the Vilebloods vs the Executioners?
Personally I think that yes they will keep the partnership going (with the clause that Miyazaki needs to helm the team) but letting him make whatever game he wants to make. The "B" team is relegated to being a souls machine only (cause no way they would give up that multiplatform money) while Miyazaki and his chosen "A" team make the new ideas/Sony partnership games.
Personally I think that yes they will keep the partnership going (with the clause that Miyazaki needs to helm the team) but letting him make whatever game he wants to make. The "B" team is relegated to being a souls machine only (cause no way they would give up that multiplatform money) while Miyazaki and his chosen "A" team make the new ideas/Sony partnership games.
SweetJohnnyCage
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We're getting at least one DLC, I'm sure. It'll probably unlock the door in Cathedral Ward that no one can figure out how to open. As for the future, I'm sure this just further solidifies Miyazaki's freedom to do what he wants with his games at Sony. While I'd like to get a Demon's Souls and Dark Souls remaster on PS4 (broken archstone pls), I'd be perfectly okay if all we got was another new game.
Bloodborne 2 or something new will happen. Hopefully a DLC announcement for Bloodborne 1 as well.
Before anyone raises the question of From not needing Sony anymore, the existence of Bloodborne after the success of Dark Souls 1 and 2 means that From is more than willing to work with Sony regardless and you can bet that the next game is already being planned as we speak.
Before anyone raises the question of From not needing Sony anymore, the existence of Bloodborne after the success of Dark Souls 1 and 2 means that From is more than willing to work with Sony regardless and you can bet that the next game is already being planned as we speak.
Crankshaft
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I think people should give the B team another chance. Yeah another game that isn't directed by Miyazaki probably wont be AS good as one he makes but I don't think he can keep up with making games and being the president of From for long. Some one is going to have to take the torch from him at some point. He needs to nurture the talent of his teams now.
DannyDanger
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It means sci-fi souls game is coming soon
biglittleps
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This is new IP even though its using Souls as base.
Amentallica
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It was a bottlenecked high-profile release, one of the few getting universal praise on PS4 so it doesn't surprise me. I wonder what comes after though. The series is a known quantity now so I can only imagine it declines, it doesn't seem like the type of game to continue to build an audience. I've heard comparisons to Tecmo and Omega Force where they just do their one specific game and brand it differently. That could be a way to go or they might have to reinvent themselves.
Bloodborne 2 is probably greenlit though. Sony needs more games of critical acclaim, they already have the console sales.
Bloodborne 2 is probably greenlit though. Sony needs more games of critical acclaim, they already have the console sales.
IISANDERII
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I think they'll have to be cautious because the game doesn't have mass appeal and many who bought it won't be buying the follow up. Even i really liked the game but I'm not certain if I'll ever play another Bloodsouls game because it's so fatiguing.
It could really use some polish in the respecting player's time category.
It could really use some polish in the respecting player's time category.
Newtype-001
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Saying no to ds3 doesn't necessarily mean going back on their fans. They can easily make a new multiplat ip. Since its not like the game turned exclusive. They could possibly put it on hiatus in fear of franchise fatigue but personally i dont see that happening.
demosthenes
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I'm sure they're being rewarded for the review scores and sales in bonuses or something. But if Sony put mist of the money up they should be rewarded more.
Magic Mushroom
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I'm just happy it's such a critical and commercial succes. Awesome game. Whatever Miyazaki does next, he'll have my transformable axe.
Considering Bloodborne's sales numbers, I think a high percentage of Dark Souls fans already jumped over to PS4. So I don't think they'd be abandoning them.
Triggerhappytel
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Real talk though: Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne may technically be different IPs, but they're essentially all spiritual successors. If things had been different and they were called Demon's Souls, Demon's Souls II and Demon's Souls III: Mark of the Beast, no-one would question it. Miyazaki may not like doing literal direct sequels, but he's effectively made two sequels as his last two games.
I stand corrected
Lol, good response. I thought at first my comment sounded a bit dickish, but you made me chuckle with that gif.
You don't honestly think that Sony are not currently in negotiations for From (and probably Miyazaki) to direct a Bloodborne 2? Put it this way: what would you be doing right now if you were Shuhei Yoshida?
ChosenPredator
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it means i hope they do a berserk game
ArchedThunder
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While we obviously can't say for certain that it would be Bloodborne II, I think we can all say with certainty that we will see another From/Sony Japan Studio collab on another Souls-like in the near-ish future. Hopefully they also port over Demon's Souls and Dark Souls(that would be up to Namco obviously) so we can have all of the games on one platform.
great numbers but I wonder how much it's success had to do with people jumping on the exclusive bandwagon. People who hadn't tried souls before will likely have bought this as it was painted and portrayed in all media as this ps4 must have.
How many of these people traded it in or sold it on because they realise they were sucked in to the hype? Will they fall for it a second time with BB2, If not will BB2 sales suffer in comparison.
I am one of those souls noobs who got caught up in the hype and bought a game I definitely wouldn't usually buy. It was traded on a week later.
All in all though the sales figures are amazing and can only bode well for FROM and Sony.
How many of these people traded it in or sold it on because they realise they were sucked in to the hype? Will they fall for it a second time with BB2, If not will BB2 sales suffer in comparison.
I am one of those souls noobs who got caught up in the hype and bought a game I definitely wouldn't usually buy. It was traded on a week later.
All in all though the sales figures are amazing and can only bode well for FROM and Sony.
They would piss off legions of fans across the PC, Xbox and PlayStation communities if they dropped Dark Souls. They have only made 2 since going multiplat and there is no reason to drop that in favor of doing just Bloodborne with Sony and/or some new IP. No, I don't see them doing it, either.
What more is there to do in the Dark Souls universe that can't be done with a new IP?
Rising_Hei
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I don't see this happening since Dark Souls series is still strong, they will just make Dark Souls 3 with that B team
, imoGrandHarrier
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Why? The game didn't sell well because it was only on PS4. It sold well because there hasn't been shit for games on the PS4 and the Souls series has been steadily gaining in popularity.
Yes, they would be abandoning a ton of fans across the Xbox and PC communities. But just screw them and make them go by a PS4 just so FROM can go Sony exclusive, right? Not happening.
I'm not worried we won't get one. I'm worried that it's not going to be given as much attention/care like with Dark Souls 2.
I enjoyed DS2 and think it's a quality game, but there's no doubt it's far less inspired than Bloodborne. I suppose you have to not own a PS4 to understand...
joecanada
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Gee, I don't know. Make another great game with an established name? Why should they drop it after only 2 multiplat games in favor of doing yet another new IP?
Triggerhappytel
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I can't imagine a scenario where the sequel would sell less. Could you explain your logic to me? It's a known quantity so it's likely to decline... wat?!
The Artisan
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shit, i wasn't aware that sales of bloodborne were up
30yearsofhurt
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Hopefully it encourages 3 things:
1 - More money from Sony to From for Souls games (a Demon Souls sequel or prequel would be good too while I'm wishing);
2 - More Japanese developers looking to make games for worldwide audiences. ~80% of sales have been external to Japan. Bloodborne would not be a success if it was a purely Japanese game purely for Japanese audiences; and
3 - Encourages publishers to let developers determine deadlines. Bloodborne was delayed. It wasn't released for a holiday season. It was done when it was done. And boy was it done well.
1 - More money from Sony to From for Souls games (a Demon Souls sequel or prequel would be good too while I'm wishing);
2 - More Japanese developers looking to make games for worldwide audiences. ~80% of sales have been external to Japan. Bloodborne would not be a success if it was a purely Japanese game purely for Japanese audiences; and
3 - Encourages publishers to let developers determine deadlines. Bloodborne was delayed. It wasn't released for a holiday season. It was done when it was done. And boy was it done well.
I think Bloodborne just established that they dont need to ride the Souls name to success though. I'd rather they make new IPs off of the Souls formula and keep things fresh. If they keep riding the Dark Souls name/style it's going to end up handcuffing them creatively.
Lionel Richie
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No, it is not, because it actually makes sense. The PS4 has a large install base, but lacked a critical success retail exclusive since at the very least Infamous SS. Bloodborne is the first "big" exclusive it got.
Not saying that's why it's selling well, but I can see it being a factor. No need to get defensive.
Triggerhappytel
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Don't worry; there's zero chance that there won't be a Dark Souls III. I imagine that's been in the works for some time while the technical team worked on porting Scholar of the First Sin. There's no way Bamco are going to let this series go, even if Miyazaki would rather work with Sony.
It's a shame people are bringing console wars into this just because Bloodborne is exclusive. There will be a Dark Souls III. There will almost certainly be Bloodborne II as well. We, the consumers, are the ones that benefit from these great games, and there's no chance they will be pumped out as regularly and robotically as Assassin's Duty.
Handcuffing them? The Souls series allows for more freedom and variety than Bloodborne even dares to offer. Besides, they can creatively do whatever they want with the series going forward and the success of Bloodborne does not mean that they should just abandon it. I mean, it is still pretty popular after only two games and they are not just going to drop that audience yet.
BouncyFrag
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A dark, gritty Star Wars Sith game based off the Bloodborne model since it has shown that From can make a viable melee centric experience without shields. Think of all the possibilities for weapons, armor, artifacts, and covenants.
One can always dream.
But it's already been proven that "exclusives" don't really make a huge difference. Multiplatforms still sell better than exclusives. People are not starving for exclusive games on the system and if they were exclusives would be the one selling better than multiplats. In fact if it were true, The Order would be the first big exclusive since Second Son and we would have already heard it hitting a million, which we didn't.
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