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Marvel's Daredevil |OT| Legally Blind *spoilers for all of S1*
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Baroquemantic
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Episode 11
Yooooo.
Episode 12
Yooooo.
I thought Wesley had betrayed Fisk, but he was loyal to the end. And Karen. Wow, wasn't expecting her to shoot him, at all.
Yo, they don't fucked up now. Fisk's only friend (aside from Vanessa) is gone. The rage that's gonna emanate from him will be insane, at least that's what I'm thinking.
Yo, they don't fucked up now. Fisk's only friend (aside from Vanessa) is gone. The rage that's gonna emanate from him will be insane, at least that's what I'm thinking.
Episode 12
Gao is a beast. That palm strike to the chest...no way she is human.
Edit:
Watched a few minutes further. Gao definitely ain't from this planet.
Really? They kill off Urich like that?
Edit:
Watched a few minutes further. Gao definitely ain't from this planet.
Really? They kill off Urich like that?
Most of those flips are ridiculous(and not really in a good way), but I love the second one, simply because it feels the most like a Daredevil panel coming to life.
All the corkscrewing is useless, but the forward roll is used in parkour to ensure the legs aren't always taking all the impact of landing. Basically it's to reduce wear and tear.
Spiritwalker
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This show is really good and I like the entire main cast so far. That pretty much never happens.
Can't wait for S2!
Can't wait for S2!
Gordon Shumway
Banned
There are sooo many spoilers in this thread..awful lol.
Annoying Old Party Man
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Almos watched till episode 10.
- Production and fight choreography is ACE
- Some of the acting choices are a bit eh.
- Fisk... sometimes I like, sometimes i feel like D'Onofrio is trying to channel his inner Brando, Apocalypse style, and he fails to execute properly. His character almost seems too sensitive to me...
- I wish the script was a tad better, dialogues are full of cliches and moments that are too... "TV" (can't find a way to describe it better atm)
It's an "amost there" show for me, but for now it will have to do.
- Production and fight choreography is ACE
- Some of the acting choices are a bit eh.
- Fisk... sometimes I like, sometimes i feel like D'Onofrio is trying to channel his inner Brando, Apocalypse style, and he fails to execute properly. His character almost seems too sensitive to me...
- I wish the script was a tad better, dialogues are full of cliches and moments that are too... "TV" (can't find a way to describe it better atm)
It's an "amost there" show for me, but for now it will have to do.
Isn't the final episode weird? It really felt like a completely different show in the last 20 mins. Very odd.
hendersonhank
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Finished episode 8 and have to say, after all the glowing responses everywhere, I feel like I'm in crazytown.
The show is just plain boring. Scenes go on way longer than necessary for no reason.
Cox is not a very good actor.
Foggy is a terrible actor and a terrible character.
Kingpin is awful, both in acting and in character. It's like if Christian Bale did the Batman voice for every second of all three movies, not just when wearing the suit. I'm supposed to believe that this regular-sized-but-portly guy, who appears to be socially retarded and overall a ridiculous, hesitant, insecure, apologetic man-baby is the most feared man in the underworld? There is nothing to suggest that he would be a frightening figure in the MCU. There is not even the excuse of the original comic book character, that clueless nerds wrote him as being made of "solid muscle" "like sumo wrestlers" and is thus a 6'7", 450lb wrecking machine. He's just a totally regular guy, physically -- albeit an out of shape one -- and mentally/emotionally seems like a big pussy.
Not sure why we're supposed to buy Vanessa's attraction; he's a big man-baby creep whose only selling point is, I guess, that he's a criminal? And this appeals to an art gallerist why?
Not to mention his motivation is
Dialogue is typical comic-book fare, i.e., mostly bad.
The show looks nice and most of the fight scenes are pretty good, I'll give it that. And Rosario is excellent as always.
I liked the Stick episode and that's it.
The show is just plain boring. Scenes go on way longer than necessary for no reason.
Cox is not a very good actor.
Foggy is a terrible actor and a terrible character.
Kingpin is awful, both in acting and in character. It's like if Christian Bale did the Batman voice for every second of all three movies, not just when wearing the suit. I'm supposed to believe that this regular-sized-but-portly guy, who appears to be socially retarded and overall a ridiculous, hesitant, insecure, apologetic man-baby is the most feared man in the underworld? There is nothing to suggest that he would be a frightening figure in the MCU. There is not even the excuse of the original comic book character, that clueless nerds wrote him as being made of "solid muscle" "like sumo wrestlers" and is thus a 6'7", 450lb wrecking machine. He's just a totally regular guy, physically -- albeit an out of shape one -- and mentally/emotionally seems like a big pussy.
Not sure why we're supposed to buy Vanessa's attraction; he's a big man-baby creep whose only selling point is, I guess, that he's a criminal? And this appeals to an art gallerist why?
Not to mention his motivation is
lifted verbatim from Ras Al Ghul's in Batman Begins.
Dialogue is typical comic-book fare, i.e., mostly bad.
The show looks nice and most of the fight scenes are pretty good, I'll give it that. And Rosario is excellent as always.
I liked the Stick episode and that's it.
WadiumArcadium
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Wow at that episode 9 ending.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Finished episode 6 last night, wish I had time to watch more.
Hmm, that was probably my least favourite episode.
Anyway, if you're on Episode 8, you really have seen the best the season has to offer sans a few individual moments. And I'll agree with you that the series, especially early on, moves at a fairly glacial pace - there's tons of moments that could be shortened with no impact to the plot.
I think Cox does a good job, I think Foggy gets an opportunity to chew more than just the scenery as the season goes on, and I understand where you are coming from with the portrayal of Kingpin but, like Foggy, I think he gets the opportunity to be more interesting as the season continues.
DonasaurusRex
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He's not the Kingpin yet...I don't even think anyone calls him that in the show, they might allude to their being "a kingpin" but basically they are showing fisk's life before he gets jailed and becomes the kingpin. In the comics this happens years before Matt starts fighting crime, but in this show they showed how matt becomes daredevil and Fisk is slowing becoming Kingpin. I didn't get the impression that the Russians, Gao, or the Hand feared Fisk , and since they were all partners in crime it's not like Fisk was responsible for everything like the Kingpin later is truly in charge.
I would agree with you but its clear fatboy is going to jail, where the Fisk ended up and resolved and plotted to become "the kingpin".
Fisk still tried justifying his deeds by his self righteous intentions, and Matt is trying to exorcise demons and always has pause because his violence feels like "the devil is in him". Basically Matt learns to do what he has to for others because thats why he's doing it all. Fisk finally comes clean with his parable and accepts that fuck it im doing it for me.
If they do another season he will probably "become" the kingpin since theres this power vaccum in hells kitchen, no russians, triad, hand, or the usual financial "services".
Netflix's 'Daredevil' is a bloody triumph (USA Today)
ICY. PERFECTION. :lol
I think D'Onofrio does OK in the role but it's still a bit underwhelming IMO.
ICY. PERFECTION. :lol
I think D'Onofrio does OK in the role but it's still a bit underwhelming IMO.
slade
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Up to episode 4 so far. Show is a slow burn and boring in places. If this keeps up, DC stans have nothing to worry about. This show like all of Marvel's TV efforts so far won't do anything to upset DC's stranglehold on television.
It isn't even better then Arrow's weak Season 3 at this point.
It isn't even better then Arrow's weak Season 3 at this point.
Razgriz-Specter
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Thats only been the season 3 fights.
Though the best imo are when Oliver gets his ass kicked(Merlyn arrow catch fight & Grundy)
distantmantra
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It was influenced by Daredevil. Look at the original comic's origin scene for the turtles.
LFMartins86
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The accident that gave Daredevil his powers also created the Turtles as the chemicals were drained to the sewer and covered the turtles.
Up to episode 7. There are things I don't like (maybe even Charlie Cox, though he's not as bad as I imagined, just maybe shorter, though his hair is awful), and things that could be done better. The origin especially felt rushed, like 'let's get this over with..." but overall I find the show much more enjoyable than any of the CW superhero shows or even Agents of Shield. I'd much rather a show take itself too seriously than get bogged down in tween soap opera tropes.
But I'm trying more to not disparage what other people like, so I'll just say I think I really like this show. Probably the best of the superhero shows so far behind Banshee.
But I'm trying more to not disparage what other people like, so I'll just say I think I really like this show. Probably the best of the superhero shows so far behind Banshee.
xaosslug
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YES! LOL Karen was on my nerves, initially, and so was Foggy, but their acting really, really sold me.
my name is ed
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TMNT definitely was based on Frank Miller's work on DD. You can see the big time influence in the early comics
Yes totally true, the first few TNMT comics started as a parody/homage of to Frank Miller's DD at that time, Eastman/Laird also openly stated this. It's really apparent if you read Miller's DD and the early comics next to each other!
BrokenFiction
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Best Daredevil / Night Court credits mash up ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nsDv_lkaLw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nsDv_lkaLw&feature=youtu.be
Dang, complete opposite for me. On all points. I agree with the majority about this being a riveting new series, right up there with the best TV shows. I find Wilson to be a riveting character study, and the same for Murdock.
And about scenes going on too long, what? Do you want to give some examples of when that happens? All the dialogue is meaningful and useful, I can't think of times where any dialogue was superfluous.
Christberg
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Not in this season, unfortunately. You don't want to read until you finish the series but presumably it's
A key of sorts to a transdimensional gateway. The "black sky" is a human boy possessed by a demon sent to earth for this task.
I was really disappointed in this.
Sure, he did flips here and there before, but it was kept at a minimal and still served a purpose. This was just showing off. Please don't do the same in Season 2.
Good point. Daredevil did it better though since Sebastian Blood wasn't good, he was just a lamer version of Scarecrow.. Also, Wilson Fisk is better than all the villains on Arrow combined.
DedalusJoyce
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Agreed for the most part, even though I really enjoyed the first 6 episodes. Everything after that was just a drag. I wasn't thrilled with their portrayal of Fisk, really underwhelming after the "one who should not be named" intimidation bullshit.
The most annoying character for me was Karen Page.
Poodlestrike
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Eh. He was always really flip happy, it just got more pronounced in the last couple of episodes. Dude barely went a single without doing some ridiculous spinning kick.
Baroquemantic
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Episode 13
Man, that opening with Many Rivers to Cross playing.
Man, that opening with Many Rivers to Cross playing.
This scene showing everyone getting arrested with the opera music is great. I always like stuff like this in movies and TV. Something about the slow-mo.
And of course it wasn't gonna be that easy. Fisk still has people on payroll.
Finally in the suit! I wish it was more red though.
http://www.daredevilpodcast.com/
I haven't listened to the rap up yet but I love this guy's early podcasts so it's probably good.
I haven't listened to the rap up yet but I love this guy's early podcasts so it's probably good.
Seems like you were expecting an action show.
DeviantBoi
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All this talk about season two... who knows when this will take place.
After The Defenders? That's two-three years away.
I'd love to see a second season of Daredevil and AKA Jessica Jones before The Defenders.
After The Defenders? That's two-three years away.
I'd love to see a second season of Daredevil and AKA Jessica Jones before The Defenders.
This I agree with. I enjoyed watching it, and I appreciate shows with a slower pace, but the season either had to be shorter or there had to be more going on. It tries to go for the slower pace of other Netflix shows like Cards or Bloodline, but those shows had a lot more character development going on underneath it all. Almost every scene serves a function there. Here it often just comes off as trying a bit too hard. And yeah, there really isn't any scene that tops the second episode. Especially towards the end I feel that
they ran out of time to make it look as good as the earlier half. Those end scenes and that costume just don't work, especially compared to the ending of episode 2. Then again, I was never really into costumed superhero stuff, so maybe comic fans got a kick out of it. But it didn't work for me.
Still, good effort overall, and I liked a lot of the performances. I'll watch the next show they do, I enjoyed my time with it after all.
MMaRsu
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I dont understand this post. What other TV shows DO you like then?
I feel like im in crazytown just reading your post. Some scenes do go on to long though, Ill agree with you on that one.
I feel like Cox has a good portrayal of a blind dude who turns into a superhero. Although I do sometimes watch him move his eyes in ways I think, hey a blind person probably wouldnt do that. Aside from that I dont know where I could fault his acting chops. Never knew the dude before this show either.
Foggy isnt a terrible actor, I think he just works with the material provided. If you saw him in The Butterfly effect you'd probably agree he is a decent actor. He was pretty good in that.
Wilson Fisk is an amazing character imo, and such a good portrayal by D'Onofrio. If you know him from Law & Order, Men in Black and that war movie by kubrick ( cant remember the name ) you know he is a great actor.
I wont go into why he talks the way he talks ( he's an autistic person on the show ), or why Vanessa loves him ( she probably sees something in him besides just the criminal right? Do you really need explanation here? )
Either way, I just think you are overall wrong. I cant agree with anything you said which makes me wonder what shows you DO enjoy.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
He was horrible on Law and Order.
Was he? That was the first time I saw him, then FMJ. Enjoyed him a lot on that show.
More_Badass
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Is that what we supposed to take away?
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