Jurassic World - Official Global Trailer

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Anton Sugar said:
I think these are the Rex's feet behind Claire:

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She totally goes to get it to fight the diabolus rex
 
Razmos said:
I'm sure I saw a theory that Claire is leading the T-Rex with the flare, ala Ian Malcolm in the original, leading it to the I-Rex potentially?
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I think that is what is happening too. I can't wait to see the T-Rex completely own the I-Rex. It's going to be amazing.
 
strafer said:
Wow.

just

wow

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Seems pretty spot on. The first movie used CGI fairly sparingly which made the entire thing feel a lot more grounded. So far everything what we've seen of JW all looks so fake, even the scenes where there aren't any dinosaurs jumping around looking away from explosions have this weird look over them. Just feels off.
 
Not sure about the whole "they're intelligent" "they're communicating" stuff. That just feels dumb to me. The rest looked actually fun though.

Blablurn said:
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Isn't that the same shot we've seen in the previous trailers, just that there was a shark instead of the flying dinosaur? I wonder if they changed the whole scene
 
neorej said:
TBH, he didn't seem to be a tad bit concerned about having raptors and a t-rex in the park in the first place.
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Nah that's what I'm saying, didn't he argue with Hammond in the book about how they should be making dinosaurs to market to the public, and now in Jurassic World he's seemingly getting to do whatever and is giddy about it without Hammond there to control him.
 
Overdoziz said:
Seems pretty spot on. The first movie used CGI fairly sparingly which made the entire thing feel a lot more grounded.
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Um. No. CGI was used HEAVILY in JP. It was just so damned well done you had no clue what was CG and what wasn't for over 20 years.
 
brandonh83 said:
Nah that's what I'm saying, didn't he argue with Hammond in the book about how they should be making dinosaurs to market to the public, and now in Jurassic World he's seemingly getting to do whatever and is giddy about it without Hammond there to control him.
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Yep, here's the exact quote:
"Right now, as we stand here, almost no one in the world has ever seen an actual dinosaur. Nobody knows what they're really like."
"Yes..."
"The dinosaurs we have now are real," Wu said, pointing to the screens around the room, "but in certain ways they are unsatisfactory. Unconvincing. I could make them better."
"Better in what way?"
"For one thing, they move too fast," Henry Wu said. "People aren't accustomed to seeing large animals that are so quick. I'm afraid visitors will think the dinosaurs look speeded up, like film running too fast."
"But Henry, these are real dinosaurs. You said so yourself."
"I know," Wu said. "But we could easily breed slower, more domesticated dinosaurs."
"Domesticated dinosaurs?" Hammond snorted. "Nobody wants domesticated dinosaurs, Henry. They want the real thing."
"But that's my point," Wu said, I don't think they do. They want to see their expectation, which is quite different."
Hammond was frowning.
"You said yourself John, this park is entertainment," Wu said. "And entertainment has nothing to do with reality. Entertainment is antithetical to reality."
Hammond sighed. "Now Henry, are we going to have another one of those abstract discussions? You know I like to keep it simple. The dinosaurs we have now are real, and---"
"Well, not exactly," Wu said. He paced the living room, pointed to the monitors. "I don't think we should kid ourselves. We haven't re-created the past here. The past is gone. It can never be re-created. What we've done is reconstruct the past--- or at least a version of the past. And i'm saying we can make a better version."
"Better than real?"
"Why not?" Wu said. "After all, these animals are already modified. We've inserted genes to make them patentable, and to make them lysine dependent . And we've done everything we can to promote growth, and accelerate development into adulthood."
Hammond shrugged. "That was inevitable. We didn't want to wait. We have investors to consider."
"Of course. But I'm just saying, why stop there? Why not push ahead to make exactly the kind of dinosaur we'd like to see? One that is more acceptable to visitors, and one that is easier for us to handle? A slower, more docile version for our park?"
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I hate how this film looks so fake and shiny. I hate the dialogue. I don't think this film is for me which is a shame because I love the first and even like parts of the lost world. I'll wait for reviews to completely write it off.
 
Razmos said:
I'm sure I saw a theory that Claire is leading the T-Rex with the flare, ala Ian Malcolm in the original, leading it to the I-Rex potentially?

Is.. she running in heels though?
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I had this thought since the first trailer when they showed her holding the flare.
 
Razmos said:
I'm sure I saw a theory that Claire is leading the T-Rex with the flare, ala Ian Malcolm in the original, leading it to the I-Rex potentially?
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Oh shit! You're probably right. YES!

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Kinyou said:
Isn't that the same shot we've seen in the previous trailers, just that there was a shark instead of the flying dinosaur? I wonder if they changed the whole scene
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Pretty sure that was created just for the trailer.

Charles Foster Kane said:
Let them fight.
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Razmos said:
Yep, here's the exact quote:
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Sounds like the entire concept of this movie in a nutshell, which is accurate to the original novel. Yet people don't think it's Jurassic Park? Okay...

"You said yourself John, this park is entertainment," Wu said. "And entertainment has nothing to do with reality. Entertainment is antithetical to reality."
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Interesting, all things considered.
 
I was hoping for a more interesting design for what everyone's calling the Indominous, which is what I assume is what everyone was calling the Diabolus Rex months ago.

Is this thing still a human-dinosaur hybrid?
 
Jaeger said:
Um. No. CGI was used HEAVILY in JP. It was just so damned well done you had no clue what was CG and what wasn't for over 20 years.
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It wasn't really used "heavily" though. It was used for the things they just couldn't do practically. It has a fraction of the number of effects shots a modern movie has. It was "heavily" used for the time. Pretty much if you don't see the whole dinosaur in a shot, minus the sick triceratops, than you can assume it's a practical dinosaur. And even a couple of full body shots of the raptor and T-rex (where they aren't really moving much) are practical. The real reason people think the CG in the original film holds up so well is because so much of what people assume is CG is actually practical puppets. That and the T-rex attack is exceptionally conceived to mask the shortcomings with the CG at the time, so that actually does hold up exceedingly well.
 
Overdoziz said:
Seems pretty spot on. The first movie used CGI fairly sparingly which made the entire thing feel a lot more grounded. So far everything what we've seen of JW all looks so fake, even the scenes where there aren't any dinosaurs jumping around looking away from explosions have this weird look over them. Just feels off.
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Maybe you're talking about the grade. They used a ton of practical/on-location sets.

Razmos said:
Yep, here's the exact quote:
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Awesome. I hope they use some of that discussion in the film.
 
WonkersTHEWatilla said:
I was hoping for a more interesting design for what everyone's calling the Indominous, which is what I assume is what everyone was calling the Diabolus Rex months ago.

Is this thing still a human-dinosaur hybrid?
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It was never a human dinosaur hybrid. At least not in this. There were things along those lines in an early treatment written about 10 years ago. It has just enough interesting characteristics without going overboard.
 
The I-Rex does not talk to, or control other dinosaurs. Holy shit, that is the stupidest thing ever -- how could anyone arrive at that conclusion?

I-Rex with ankylo's: kids are exploring/lost among the ankylo's, I-Rex shows up, they freak and kick the ball-o-kids around in their escape.

"Something's wrong; they're communicating." Pratt's raptor squad is talking amongst themselves, probably saying, "wtf, bob. I smell that dino but I can't see shit, where is it?"

I-Rex and pteranodons: "fuck you, I'm an I-Rex. Suck my dick!!!" Ptero's: "porkchop sandwiches! Let's get the fuck outta here!"
 
RyanardoDaVinci said:
The I-Rex does not talk to, or control other dinosaurs. Holy shit, that is the stupidest thing ever -- how could anyone arrive at that conclusion?

I-Rex with ankylo's: kids are exploring/lost among the ankylo's, I-Rex shows up, they freak and kick the ball-o-kids around in their escape.

"Something's wrong; they're communicating." Pratt's raptor squad is talking amongst themselves, probably saying, "wtf, bob. I smell that dino but I can't see shit, where is it?"

I-Rex and pteranodons: "fuck you, I'm an I-Rex. Suck my dick!!!" Ptero's: "porkchop sandwiches! Let's get the fuck outta here!"
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/fuckingdead
 
-griffy- said:
It wasn't really used "heavily" though. It was used for the things they just couldn't do practically. It has a fraction of the number of effects shots a modern movie has. It was "heavily" used for the time.
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I don't even know what you are arguing.
 
brandonh83 said:
Sounds like the entire concept of this movie in a nutshell, which is accurate to the original novel. Yet people don't think it's Jurassic Park? Okay....
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Yeah, this is probably the truest sequel to the themes of the original that we've had, and people are shitting on it for "not feeling like Jurassic Park", amazing.

I wasn't sure what to think about the idea of the hybrid when it was first announced, until I read that part and realized it was using the original ideas from the novel.
 
Abundant CGI is disappointing but we've already seen animatronics for raptors and sauropods at least so I'll wait for the full movie for context.

I-rex looks cool and dumb. Seems like it's a total slasher monster but hey, at least it was bred for that purpose unlike the Spino from JP3... Looks like it takes enough from the carnotaur in TLW that we'll probably not get one if there is any sequels.

At least the actions scenes went full on for what a lot of people seem to want from these movies, military bros vs dinosaurs. Hoping they can do those bits smartly cuz the I-Rex against the security force was kinda ridiculous lol.

So glad they did not reveal the Rex,
Dilos, or any hint of I-Rex vs T-Rex or the raptors and the mosa tank.
I don't trust them to save that stuff for the theater so no more trailers for me.

Speculation, I-Rex is so smart, it
faked it's sibling being eaten, I bet it's alive and in hiding for a climax reveal or the sequel.
 
RyanardoDaVinci said:
I-Rex and pteranodons: "fuck you, I'm an I-Rex. Suck my dick!!!" Ptero's: "porkchop sandwiches! Let's get the fuck outta here!"
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I now want to skip past the theatrical release, and get to the part where the blu-ray features a special Dino subtitle track written by the cast of "How Did This Get Made"
 
EmCeeGramr said:
Okay if (and I understand it's an if right now) they actually make it so that Darth Dinosaur can actually use its genetic force powers to influence and command all other prehistoric animals somehow, then this will not only surpass Serial Killer Spino and Genius Planner Raptors from III; it'll surpass the orca from Orca purposefully blowing up a town with a gas explosion out of revenge; it'll surpass the latter Jaws movie's implications that the giant killer sharks have a psychic/magical communication network that they use to get revenge for their brethren by following a specific family around the world and fucking with them with traps and shit.
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Man, this reminds me, there was this stupid old movie I saw once where all the birds on earth turned on humans at the same time

Wish I could think of the name of it
 
Jaeger said:
I don't even know what you are arguing.
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The only context for saying CG was used "heavily" in the original film is in 1993 when CG was in its infancy. The actual number of VFX shots in the film is relatively small. Trying to say the original used CG HEAVILY in the context of comparing it to the amount of CG in the new film is pretty misleading.
 
brandonh83 said:
I'm pretty sure most of this big action stuff is the middle section of the movie, and that it gets more like what you're describing after the island security force is taken out.
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Just seeing Pratt on the bike with the raptors at night showed me that they aren't doing 'dark' really. It just seemed too bright and too fake.
 
Razmos said:
Yeah, this is probably the truest sequel to the themes of the original that we've had, and people are shitting on it for "not feeling like Jurassic Park", amazing.

I wasn't sure what to think about the idea of the hybrid when it was first announced, until I read that part and realized it was using the original ideas from the novel.
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I'll admit that even for myself some of these things took me off guard but when I put thought into it instead of trying to write it off as dumb I started to warm up to it. In terms of concept there's nothing really out of bounds going on here especially when you start, as we've been doing, bringing direct quotes from the original novel into the fray that actually explain/justify what they're doing.

Yesterday I was hoping this trailer would try to pull my nostalgia strings with some Williams music and holy shit dinosaurs are amazing! shots, and it had some of those, but now I think I'm more pleased by the fact that it didn't and that it feels very confident in itself.

flkraven said:
Just seeing Pratt on the bike with the raptors at night showed me that they aren't doing 'dark' really. It just seemed too bright and too fake.
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It won't be a horror movie, but even the first one had whimsy against terror. These are first and foremost action/adventure movies with some themes sprinkled in.
 
Migrant said:
No. The human-dinosaur hybrid nonsense was being kicked around a long time ago. Thankfully they abandoned that idea.
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brandonh83 said:
It was never a human dinosaur hybrid. At least not in this. There were things along those lines in an early treatment written about 10 years ago. It has just enough interesting characteristics without going overboard.
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Should've just went half (long) hog, I say.

Now it's just another boring Rex equivalent.
 
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