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Marvel's Daredevil |OT| Legally Blind *spoilers for all of S1*

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plz translate 4 me thnx

Mr. DeKnight is very proud of the incredible critical reception of the Netflix Original Series Daredevil™, brought to you by Marvel Studios.

Unfortunately, he has recently decided to put his full attention and creative energy into another project, which will hopefully reach the instant success of the smash hit Netflix Original Series Daredevil™, brought to you by Marvel Studios.

...

He doesn't want to do it anymore
 
I think all Marvel show are purposely keeping this a bit vague. If they do not hammer down an exact time. it opens doors to let them explore and interact with other stuff in the MCU if needed as it develops in the future.

No need to give an exact date until they need to - and then have a good story/character reason for doing so to make it matter.

At the same time, this is definitely between Avengers and Age of Ultron, seeing as how there's no reference to the latter.
 
Really glad season 2 is confirmed, but I'm still confused about the timeline

I just don't see how it will make it out in 2016 at the current pace
 
Mr. DeKnight is very proud of the incredible critical reception of the Netflix Original Series Daredevil™, brought to you by Marvel Studios.

Unfortunately, he has recently decided to put his full attention and creative energy into another project, which will hopefully reach the instant success of the smash hit Netflix Original Series Daredevil™, brought to you by Marvel Studios.

...

He doesn't want to do it anymore

Do I have a job at NBC PR for you!!
 
His childhood might of been cliche...but honestly pretty anything they wrote into that spot would've been. I also like how his mannerisms play a big part to how he was raised. So, I really don't understand why you thought it was unnecessary. Even as Kingpin, he was still quiet, withdrawn until he was forced to snap. Just like he was as a kid...until he snapped on his father. It wasn't a light switch moment either...they played it the whole time with a new lady in his life I thought. She made him open up and put out there who he really was...how he didn't have to hide anything. The final confrontation was in fact bad...
Also,
his dad was Herc from The Wire. Finally he gets got.
 
Just finished it, kinda limped towards the end IMO, and the entire final episode felt like an episode of Arrow, whereas the show early on felt really distinct, and like it was something greater.
It's not just the suit either, the fights in the final episodes never quite looked or felt as good.

I went into it knowing next to nothing about the world of Daredevil and overall I thought it was pretty great, excellent at times. Looking forward to Jessica Jones.
 
Man, I was seeing some people's disliking D'Onofrio's Kingpin, and granted I've only seen up to episode 4, but I actually kind of like the socially awkward, emotional take on him. He's obviously established a rep for himself, but he's not quite the Kingpin yet.

I also don't mind Foggy. He's pretty corny, but I find him endearing.
 
Finally finished.

I thought the last 5 were much better than the first 8.

As a whole I found the series pretty boring. Very little interesting story- or character-wise, Foggy was unbearable. Story elements and conversations were dragged out forever.

Kingpin's voice was also unbearable, and seemed to be a slightly whisperier version of Bale's Batman voice, which makes sense since Kingpin's plan/motivation and one of his key sequences in the finale are also pretty much lifted verbatim from Nolan.

It made zero sense to me why Kingpin would in any conceivable way be a match for Daredevil in a fight, or why he seemingly had super strength. He is a normal-sized man who is simply out of shape and fat. We saw zero scenes of him working out or training or anything and it really doesn't even seem like his kind of thing to do.

In conclusion: Meh.
 
kingpin fighting daredevil was stupid for sure, it tends to happen in the comic books though but i never liked it.

Yeah, but in the comics Kingpin is a 6'7" and 450lb behemoth of "solid muscle" (because the sheltered nerd who invented him considered him like a sumo and thought sumo are not fat but muscular). He is also often shown training against like 5 guys at once or throwing barbells around.

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This show went way more grounded and with a Kingpin who was barely larger than his accountant (albeit fatter), and yet somehow he was still pressing Daredevil over his head and throwing him 20 feet through the air. Just couldn't buy it at all and it really didn't seem to fit with the world they created or even the Kingpin character they created.

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My actual biggest problem with the show was not enough Rosario.
 
Yeah, but in the comics Kingpin is a 6'7" and 450lb behemoth of "solid muscle" (because the sheltered nerd who invented him considered him like a sumo and thought sumo are not fat but muscular). He is also often shown training against like 5 guys at once or throwing barbells around.

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This show went way more grounded and with a Kingpin who was barely larger than his accountant (albeit fatter), and yet somehow he was still pressing Daredevil over his head and throwing him 20 feet through the air. Just couldn't buy it at all and it really didn't seem to fit with the world they created or even the Kingpin character they created.

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My actual biggest problem with the show was not enough Rosario.

Charlie Cox is in great shape but he isn't a big guy. Pressing a guy that is 5'10 and 165-185 lbs isn't an unbelievable feat of strength even with a more grounded Fisk.
 
Plus we have no idea what kind of workout routine he has on the show. Also, people being deceptively strong relative to their size is a thing in real life (for an example of this, I give you one Bruce Lee).
 
This show is freaking AWESOME. Quick question though:

At the end of Episode 9,
how does Foggy get into Matt's apartment? He is drunkenly knocking on the doors and hears Matt collapse, at which point he starts pulling on the locked door. He then goes up the stairs that have an arrow saying "Roof Access"and the next shot is of him opening the door and he is just...inside Matt's apartment.
What am I missing?
 
This show is freaking AWESOME. Quick question though:

At the end of Episode 9,
how does Foggy get into Matt's apartment? He is drunkenly knocking on the doors and hears Matt collapse, at which point he starts pulling on the locked door. He then goes up the stairs that have an arrow saying "Roof Access"and the next shot is of him opening the door and he is just...inside Matt's apartment.
What am I missing?

Matt's apartment has a door that goes to the roof. Perfect for
secret exits in costume
.
 
Rosario Dawson's character really did basically randomly disappear from this series. She was in the first half a ton and then just stopped being around with little explanation. Then she pops back up in one more episode near the end for a single scene...and that's it. I am assuming they are going to use her on the other shows or something? Her arc felt really puzzling and incomplete compared to every other "main" character.
 
Rosario Dawson's character really did basically randomly disappear from this series. She was in the first half a ton and then just stopped being around with little explanation. Then she pops back up in one more episode near the end for a single scene...and that's it. I am assuming they are going to use her on the other shows or something? Her arc felt really puzzling and incomplete compared to every other "main" character.

Yeah, it seemed like they were saving money by
having Foggy just mention that she'd been there to patch up Daredevil instead of showing her there patching up Daredevil. We could have seen her reaction to him being in such bad shape. Maybe she could have had an interesting conversation with Foggy while stitching, since Daredevil would have been unconscious or at least not very lucid at the time.
But no, she just pops up near the end after being MIA for like half the show. I noticed that, too, and it was odd.
 
Yeah, it seemed like they were saving money by
having Foggy just mention that she'd been there to patch up Daredevil instead of showing her there patching up Daredevil. We could have seen her reaction to him being in such bad shape. Maybe she could have had an interesting conversation with Foggy while doing stitching, since Daredevil would have been unconscious or at least not very lucid at the time.
But no, she just pops up near the end after being MIA for like half the show. I noticed that, too, and it was odd.

I assumed she was only contracted for a certain amount of episodes, hence why she appears so sporadically. It is more than a little jarring, you're right.
 
I figured out why vincent donofrio's voice annoys me in this.

He's constantly drifting in and out of this voice:
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He never looks or sounds intimidating
 
The season was very good, I quite enjoyed it.

Felt the second 6 episodes did not quite live up to the first 6, but ultimately it was a very nice surprise.
 
We're past the spoiler embargo date, so everything from S1 is fair game in this thread now. The spoiler thread has been locked. Thanks for adhering to the rules, and please let us know via PM if you have any comments on the use of a spoiler thread this time around for a Netflix show.
 
(Copypasting my post from a couple of days ago from the spoiler thread due to relevant information. Obviously anything I said about DeKnight doing another season is meaningless now though, lol):

Finally had time to sit down and watch the DeKnight IGN interview. Great talk, he sounds really down for another season. Goes over future ideas and hints that were in the first season about Elektra, Bullseye, the Iron Fist mythology allusions, etc. A few points:

-Concerning Karen: he says they want to explore the way the character ends up becoming a tragic figure, but that it doesn't mean that they'll go as far as making her fall into drugs, pornography and selling Matt out for a fix of dope. (Imo it's a good thing that he realizes there needs to be some restraint, all of that at once would feel forced for this version of the character and the response wouldn't be very good.)

-This was mentioned in the thread already, but killing Ben was Marvel's idea. DeKnight himself was surprised, but it was a decision that was set in stone before he even got the showrunner position from Goddard. From what he says, Marvel wanted to do it because they really wanted to sell the idea that despite everything you know about the comics, in this world everything goes. They hadn't even cast the part yet when it was decided that Ben would die.

-The scene with Stick and Stone was initially planned as a "post-credits" scene for the show, but since Netflix has the feature of autoplaying the next episode and cutting mid-credits they decided to mix it at the end of an episode.

-Says he didn't feel the burden of having to link up with any other show and that they only really did that when it felt natural for the season (like with Gao), and that he thinks that as they move forward is when it starts getting complicated because they need to avoid contradicting whatever happened earlier. He and Melissa Rosenberg (Jessica Jones showrunner) had very little time to talk because they were both very busy during development.

-Is there a chance of DD season 2 happening simultaneously with the other Netflix shows? He can't say anything about that, but obviously the response has gotten people thinking about the possibilities. With any deal there are possibilities of more seasons, although with this model they're following it becomes exponentially more complicated. He'd love to do more and the cast is down for another round.
 
I just finished the season over lunch. Loved it overall. I pretty much knew nothin about the Daredevil character beforehand (except that he's a blind dude dressed in red) so it was very fresh.

The Nossun Dorma montage at the end was maybe a bit much but still, loved it.

I heard from a lot of different people how the show's quality takes a dive in the last couple of episodes but I didn't really see any change.
 
Anyone post this yet? From Joe Quesada's Tumblr:

ANONYMOUS ASKED:
Was there any discussion for DD's billy clubs in the show to include his comics trademark cable and grapple hook or are you guys sticking with the billy clubs as they are for the foreseeable future?

Are you referring to a cable like the one on my Daredevil billy-clubs?

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Incidentally, the billy-clubs were designed for the show by the wickedly talented Andy Park. They are fully functional.

Maybe we'll get these in S2?
 
I'm gonna come out and say it, I didn't like Owlsley. That guy was hamming it up in every scene and it felt out of place.

D'Onfrio looked like he was in pain/had to take a dump every time he spoke. Every scene where he talked at length seemed to drag more and more as the season went on. It was weird how he went from possibly mentally handicapped man baby to angry guy who can't talk without grimacing as the season went on.

For a supposedly smart guy, who graduated top of his class from a prestigious law firm, Matt Murdock was really kind of dumb in how he went about a lot of things. I can't believe it took him talking to a reporter to realize he needed things like you know, evidence.

I liked the action sequences, it was noticeable that they lessened during the second half but it made sense since he was so beat up. I realize he wanted speed/agility, but you'd think he'd have worn a little more than under armor. I'm also surprised that they hand wave him always using his real voice and no one ever realizing it was him.

I actually thought we'd get a little bit of Foggie origin in the episode that started with the kid in the waiting room with long hair watching cartoons, alas.

Overall I liked it. There's room for improvement but it was definitely quite good for the first season of a Super Hero show. I'd watch season 2 of Daredevil before I watched more Gotham.
 
Considering it's Netflix, id rather the next season cut the episodes in half. A six episode season. Just a little too much fat this go around. Spend more time with daredevil himself.
 
For a supposedly smart guy, who graduated top of his class from a prestigious law firm, Matt Murdock was really kind of dumb in how he went about a lot of things. I can't believe it took him talking to a reporter to realize he needed things like you know, evidence.

not sure I'm on board with this. I thought the point of most of the season was that even though Matt was a lawyer, he had come to see the law as useless for solving certain kinds of problems (refer back to the story about the girl being molested), and Wilson Fisk was that kind of problem.

His struggles with his priest were finding a way to deal with Fisk that didn't involve just killing him (though the aftermath of the Nobu fight might also have had something to do with abandoning this plan) and Nelson v. Murdock was about Foggy beating it into his head that yes, the law might actually NOT be as useless as Matt thinks.
 
if elektra is in season 2 i hope they find someone who looks like they can whoop some ass. shows keep casting people who are like 5'2 and 100 pounds expecting me to believe they are knocking people out left and right
 
if elektra is in season 2 i hope they find someone who looks like they can whoop some ass. shows keep casting people who are like 5'2 and 100 pounds expecting me to believe they are knocking people out left and right

Could Ronda Rousey beat Elektra?
 
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