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Dark Knight Rises v Man of Steel (Which one sucked more?)
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FunkyPajamas
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DRK, no question.
Man of Steel felt like an alternate version of Supes and it wasn't that bad (or at least I didn't feel offended by it). DKR on the other hand, shat on the goodwill the two previous movies had created. And this is coming from a guy that doesn't think Spider-man 3 is the worst thing ever.
Man of Steel felt like an alternate version of Supes and it wasn't that bad (or at least I didn't feel offended by it). DKR on the other hand, shat on the goodwill the two previous movies had created. And this is coming from a guy that doesn't think Spider-man 3 is the worst thing ever.
i think they basically need to not suck. Why do I need to lower my standards when there are plenty of movies out there that don't suck? Thinking a superhero movie sucks does not mean you desire a cinematic masterpiece. I loved Dark Knight and Batman Begins; I did not enjoy Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel. None are "cinematic masterpieces", but only two of these suck in my view.
Siegcram said:
I wonder everyday what the movie would have been like if Heath Ledger didn't pass. Because I think I read an interview where Nolan said they had a story planned where he returned.
No but GAF can expect it to be good. TDKR was terrible.
The problem is...Nolan treated his Batman universe like it should be thought of as a cinematic masterpiece. Snyder didn't treat MOS like that...and most of the other superhero films don't take themselves so seriously.
Dr_LucienSanchez
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Man of Steel was a giant turd, so gonna have to go with that one.
lol
Brian_FETO
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This makes me want to watch Man Of Steel. I'm not a Superman fan by any means and the movie didn't look too appealing to me
Does it have a good amount of action? I can handle an ok/mediocre movie if it does
It has the best action in a superhero film this side of The Avengers.
entremet
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Marc
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+1
TDKR had so many silly plotholes and ideas like sending the entire police force underground? Why wouldn't you bring in the national guard and FBI etc. if it required that amount of force. Or the idea of a prison in the middle of nowhere with no guards, yet still have caged cells that are left open with a huge way of getting out. Where we have in the past seen many prisoners work together to achieve escape, here they're happy to be left alone. With no real sewage system possible, no food/water distribution... they didn't think it through at all. Then magically transports back to his city at the exact right moment required after months, spending what would take days to paint a giant bat symbol on a bridge with flammable liquid. With the big plan being to blow up the city, something they could have rigged in weeks rather than months and not require a fucking nuke.
Man of Steel has issues with dialogue, pacing and a lack of a good story but it functions. I really didn't like their take on it, but it was vaguely cohesive at least. The fucking dog/dad scene and bus crash put to one side among other stupid decisions.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Well dark knight rises was a good film, simple sums innit.
TDKR is the second best Batman movie made. Hm, but now that I'm thinking about it, Man of Steel is the second best Superman movie made.
My god...I think...both are...good movies. It's as if I can find something disappointing without thinking it's the "worst" or even thinking it sucks.
I'm sorry GAF, I have failed you.
My god...I think...both are...good movies. It's as if I can find something disappointing without thinking it's the "worst" or even thinking it sucks.
I'm sorry GAF, I have failed you.
Bobby Roberts
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It's better action than The Avengers, really.
evil solrac v3.0
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The obsession continues.
Kenzodielocke
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For me it's, which one is better ? It's Man Of Steel.
Benzychenz
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Man of Steel was fantastic where as Dark Knight Rises was merely good.
Neither of them sucked.
Neither of them sucked.
King Gilga
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Man of Steel is fun, cool and dumb.
TDKR was just super dumb.
And I really really don't like superman.
TDKR was just super dumb.
And I really really don't like superman.
I don't think that either of them suck.
It has a good amount of action yeah. The finale is a bit overwhelming though and could've done with some trimming.
It has a good amount of action yeah. The finale is a bit overwhelming though and could've done with some trimming.
Brian_FETO
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Sold! Thanks
At the very least it would have provided some much needed cohesion for the plot.
DKR just wanted to cover too many characters and arcs for it to work.
Chezzymann
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I dunno, that long shot of the avengers working together was fucking amazing
Matt Attack
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I liked TDKR but didn't care for MoS at all.
evil solrac v3.0
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This is honestly bordering on the weird. For the record both films are very good.
VeryGooster
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TDKR feels like everyone not giving a shit, it's all over the place, and it has one of the worst/most hilarious onscreen deaths I've ever seen in a movie.
MOS is bloated as hell and stupid in parts but somehow I am willing to sit through that again over TDKR.
MOS is bloated as hell and stupid in parts but somehow I am willing to sit through that again over TDKR.
MoS could be considered more mediocre and I think that's why people hate it so much, but it's more consistent both visually, with characterization, and with the narrative.
TDKR has more uniqueness in it's presentation, so people probably think it hits higher highs but I think it fails mostly where it's attempting to be deep or menacing or creative. Either way, it's way less consistent and more hit or miss but what I think makes it a worse movie is that the lows are much lower.
People complain about Superman killing or the destruction in MoS but honestly it feels much more like nitpicking when put up against Talia/Bane's bait and switch/lack of cohesive characterization or the shoehorned sociopolitical messages that were added to give depth or the Bat voice or Alfred's flip flopping charization from the previous films or Batman's miraculous recovery from debilitating injuries, not once but twice, to service the plot or more Nolan-esque twists for the sake of keeping the audience guessing rather than being consistent with the world or how Batman is somehow able to travel hundreds (probably thousands) of miles from a hole in the middle of nowhere to Gotham....etc. etc. etc. you get the point.
TDKR is hands down a worse movie and that's before even getting into things I personally thought were bad like Bane's voice or the whole ending.
TDKR has more uniqueness in it's presentation, so people probably think it hits higher highs but I think it fails mostly where it's attempting to be deep or menacing or creative. Either way, it's way less consistent and more hit or miss but what I think makes it a worse movie is that the lows are much lower.
People complain about Superman killing or the destruction in MoS but honestly it feels much more like nitpicking when put up against Talia/Bane's bait and switch/lack of cohesive characterization or the shoehorned sociopolitical messages that were added to give depth or the Bat voice or Alfred's flip flopping charization from the previous films or Batman's miraculous recovery from debilitating injuries, not once but twice, to service the plot or more Nolan-esque twists for the sake of keeping the audience guessing rather than being consistent with the world or how Batman is somehow able to travel hundreds (probably thousands) of miles from a hole in the middle of nowhere to Gotham....etc. etc. etc. you get the point.
TDKR is hands down a worse movie and that's before even getting into things I personally thought were bad like Bane's voice or the whole ending.
DrForester
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Man of Steel, easily.
The Dark Knight Rises was a bit of a letdown, but I don't consider it a bad film.
The Dark Knight Rises was a bit of a letdown, but I don't consider it a bad film.
supernormal
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Dat hyperbole.
I fell asleep in the theater watching MoS, but I still wouldn't say it's bad movie, maybe a bit boring. I liked TDKR better and even though I agree with a lot of the complaints here is still not bad movie either.
I fell asleep in the theater watching MoS, but I still wouldn't say it's bad movie, maybe a bit boring. I liked TDKR better and even though I agree with a lot of the complaints here is still not bad movie either.
m_shortpants
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If you want to see crazy superpowered gods fighting each other unlike anything in film, watch Man of Steel. The action is great.
Shalashaska161
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I think they're both just sorta average. But I probably like Man of Steel a tiny bit more so it wins.
My thoughts exactly.
lol wat
Nappuccino
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TDKR is the better film, but also the more disappointing one.
Benzychenz
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Is this like some variation of the Americans clapping meme?
Why would you applaud in a cinema?
Batman shoots the driver of a bomb truck and Talia to death in TDKR because he's like "Fuck it, I can't get the bomb otherwise".
He's worse than Superman.
Cloud Strife
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I had more fun watching MoS, TDKR was a huge disappointment but I agree that both plots sucked pretty hard with some unbelievable moments. The action in MoS puts it on top, wouldn't even consider watching TDKR again.
CassidyIzABeast
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TDKR
Watching Metropolis get turned to rubble was entertaining.
TDKR was a snoozefest.
Watching Metropolis get turned to rubble was entertaining.
TDKR was a snoozefest.
He's the exact opposite of batman though. Ras protege vs talia protege.
Never have understood the vitriol both of these movies get. They both have issues -- The Dark Knight Rises moreso. But Christ, some here act like they're the worst experiences on film. Man of Steel, to me, is the better movie. Saw it three times in the theater and numerous times on Blu ray and absolutely love it. TDKR has that stupid twist at the end that absolutely ruins an otherwise great villain.
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