Linkstrikesback
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Honestly, I'm half expecting him to skip that and just go straight to a Thanosbuster suit.
In all seriousness though, I would be utterly unsurprised if infinitywar ends up with an infinity gauntlet powered ironman suit.
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Honestly, I'm half expecting him to skip that and just go straight to a Thanosbuster suit.
In all seriousness though, I would be utterly unsurprised if infinitywar ends up with an infinity gauntlet powered ironman suit.
King Gilga
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That doesn't contradict anything he says.
Ultron was dumb as fuck, and there was like 0 tension or pay off in the final battle, it was more like 'oh okay I guess it's done'.
I had fun with it and I think I did enjoy it more than the first one but that doesn't change that.
Hulk vs Iron man was by far the best battle as well.
brandonh83
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This sounds atrocious. And people are wondering why I would be against Joss doing a Star Wars movie. He barely, or maybe not at all, seems to grasp the concept between good vs. evil and why people long for conflict in stories like this.
Have you been losing HS games again? I've only seen you this negative in that thread.
IncandescentPrecept
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He's still right though.
Linkstrikesback
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It's alright to be negative though. There are some positives about the film, but he isn't wrong about the final battle, which is what that particular post is a reply to.
edit: And a search for zoukka posts shows (s)he's only had two posts in the thread recently anyway. Come on.
Nah the movie just happened to be completely forgettable.
IncandescentPrecept
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I noticed one thing in the theatre - not a whole lot of laughs despite the movie having a lot of jokes.
brandonh83
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This is probably how I'll feel overall. The first one was a lot of fun and I'm sure I will enjoy this. That being said, it's a sequel about a bunch of badass superheroes and I expected there to be some actual stakes and tension but as usual it sounds like Whedon is treating it as comedy hour fluff. It will probably be enjoyable but I have a feeling Infinity War is where it'll be.
IncandescentPrecept
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Also, this is th third movie teasing Thanos. Yeah, we get it - in a couple of years Thanos will be here.
Linkstrikesback
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I feel like half the reason is that the jokes were all very... on the nose. There was never really anything you couldn't see coming.
Versus the much more well thought out visual/audio comedy in Guardians of the Galaxy, it couldn't match up.
King Gilga
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Complete opposite here, think pretty much all the jokes got laughs.
I would watch it before drawing conclusions from reading impressions, specially because you are giving more weigh to reactions that match your expectations. I went in without absolutely no hype or expectation and enjoyed the movie for what it was.
StalkerUKCG
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I really don't think he is dead. They mention early on how he has Enhanced metabolism which is basically MCU saying Healing Factor I think and we know how strong some Healing Factors are. Wolverine comes back from headshots in the x-men movies.
Taking his body and not having a burial scene really makes me think he is going to be around in the future.
I really liked his character in both DotFP and AoU. DotFP has that really great kitchen/sprinkler scene but the character was better in AoU. Hopefully they can focus on him and give him something akin to the kitchen scene in later titles.
I didn't like Iron Man 3 for the same reasons I didn't like this. There are cool moments, its entertaining, I'd even go so far as to say I enjoyed it for the most part... but its just bombast. Lots of metal shit flying around and special effects all over the screen, too much time devoted to action on screen and not enough development and fun. I can't mistake lines of snappy dialogue for wit and narrative progression.
As the ensemble of characters grows (they brought back Maria Hill, Rhodes / Iron Patriot, Selvig, Peggy Carter, Heimdall, Falcon, and many more) its too messy. Adding Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver to that just seems ill advised, they don't get the narrative attention they deserved after their great Winter Soldier stinger -- they come off as useless tools of the villain and cannon fodder for the third act, there for some semblance of drama and sacrifice. Only I didn't care about them. They seemed out of place. We didn't get a sense of their history with hydra or their motivation outside of a boo hoo my parents are dead story. Everybody's got dead people as Rocket said..
At times it felt too much like a cartoon. You expect it to be somewhat like that. But with the flying truck, family in the bathtub and Hawkeye's "none of this makes sense" speech, I actually questioned whether Whedon was taking the piss.
I'm disappointed most with missed opportunities. They could have sewn better seeds for the Civil War setup. They wasted so much time on Ultron's failing schemes and daddy issues. They should have devoted more time to the infinity stones reveal than a few shitty, edgy dream scenes that culminated in Thor and Selvig reaching a pool we've heard fuck all about. This should have been the Avengers Empire Strikes Back to their Return of the Jedi. It feels like there's compromise and heavy editing all over this and if that's the case, great - directors cut please! Otherwise...
I'm disappointed.
GotG, Iron Man 1, Thor, First Avenger, Winter Soldier - all great.
Thor 2, IM2/3, Age of Ultron - not so much.
As the ensemble of characters grows (they brought back Maria Hill, Rhodes / Iron Patriot, Selvig, Peggy Carter, Heimdall, Falcon, and many more) its too messy. Adding Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver to that just seems ill advised, they don't get the narrative attention they deserved after their great Winter Soldier stinger -- they come off as useless tools of the villain and cannon fodder for the third act, there for some semblance of drama and sacrifice. Only I didn't care about them. They seemed out of place. We didn't get a sense of their history with hydra or their motivation outside of a boo hoo my parents are dead story. Everybody's got dead people as Rocket said..
At times it felt too much like a cartoon. You expect it to be somewhat like that. But with the flying truck, family in the bathtub and Hawkeye's "none of this makes sense" speech, I actually questioned whether Whedon was taking the piss.
I'm disappointed most with missed opportunities. They could have sewn better seeds for the Civil War setup. They wasted so much time on Ultron's failing schemes and daddy issues. They should have devoted more time to the infinity stones reveal than a few shitty, edgy dream scenes that culminated in Thor and Selvig reaching a pool we've heard fuck all about. This should have been the Avengers Empire Strikes Back to their Return of the Jedi. It feels like there's compromise and heavy editing all over this and if that's the case, great - directors cut please! Otherwise...
I'm disappointed.
GotG, Iron Man 1, Thor, First Avenger, Winter Soldier - all great.
Thor 2, IM2/3, Age of Ultron - not so much.
BronsonLee
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If the Marvel formula sticks, I'm eagerly anticipating the Quicksilver TV series, coming soon to Tuesday nights on ABC
brandonh83
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Absolutely. I also mostly disagree with super negative opinions I read. That being said, I'm a more traditional kind of guy, and I like for movies like this to be very centric toward hero and villain conflicts. I think Whedon's approach is usually highly anti-climactic. It leaves me feeling very cold. I'm sure I'll have fun with it, but these things usually disappoint me in the third act climax.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
He's dead until SW or Strange pulls his ass out of another dimension/reality. Clint even (middle) named his kid after him.
Linkstrikesback
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Besides that, literally every marvel film since Avengers (except iron man 3) had a fakeout death that either just straight up didn't happen, or has since been retconned.
Avengers had coulson, Thor 2 had Loki, Winter solider had Nick Fury, Rumlow, GotG had Groot.
Maybe even earlier if you want to be picky. Loki sorta looked dead at the end of Thor 1 and Captain america attempted something suicidal in First Avenger.
So it's no surprise when I assume that Quicksilver isn't actaully dead at all. ESpecially not when they were messing around with a machine earlier in the film which can magically heal wounds.
IncandescentPrecept
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I'm really curious as to what they were laughing at? "Beep,beep"? "Running out things to say". "Language"?
Just got back, I enjoyed it. Ultron wasn't as fearsome as the trailer made out but it was a fun movie.
Although I shook my head at that Quicksilver death scene are you fucking kidding me!? What a waste of an interesting character.
Also dumb civilians made me roll my eyes numerous times, you have Hulk running amok lets stand and watch him,or sit in my car for some reason. Haha
Yep a lot of laughs in my audience as well.
Although I shook my head at that Quicksilver death scene are you fucking kidding me!? What a waste of an interesting character.
Also dumb civilians made me roll my eyes numerous times, you have Hulk running amok lets stand and watch him,or sit in my car for some reason. Haha
Yep a lot of laughs in my audience as well.
King Gilga
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All three of those got laughs, especially all the repeated Cap language jokes, and the thor running out of things to say. Beep beep had noticeable laughter but not as much.
I don't remember the zucchini joke, remind me please.
StalkerUKCG
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Stark says Hulk and Widow better not be playing Hide the Zucchini.
It's because hulk is green and hung
King Gilga
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Oh thanks, I must have missed it or wasn't paying attention.
IMO, the Hulk vs. Iron Man battle is the weakest. It's all cgi dust with Tony Stark making jokes about it.
All the other battles where the team gets to act in coordination are infinitely better. It's the type of thing I hope to see one day see in a X-Men movie and that has not been done in any other comic book movie so far.
And random comment, but people keep talking about Hawkeye having more presence in this movie, which was nice, but I didn't like how they decided to make him completely useless during fights. He was way more competent in the first movie. I'm still waiting for that unbelievable arrow shot that never happened.
Gif of Ultron flying that jet:
Oh, and can we talk about how silly it was Thor having bruises in the Avengers Academy? Maybe I didn't pay attention, but I think not even Scarlet Witch had any more bruises from that battle.
All the other battles where the team gets to act in coordination are infinitely better. It's the type of thing I hope to see one day see in a X-Men movie and that has not been done in any other comic book movie so far.
And random comment, but people keep talking about Hawkeye having more presence in this movie, which was nice, but I didn't like how they decided to make him completely useless during fights. He was way more competent in the first movie. I'm still waiting for that unbelievable arrow shot that never happened.
Gif of Ultron flying that jet:
Oh, and can we talk about how silly it was Thor having bruises in the Avengers Academy? Maybe I didn't pay attention, but I think not even Scarlet Witch had any more bruises from that battle.
IncandescentPrecept
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That is quite crazy.
not bad choice but bad treatment. thank goodness Whedon is gone after this
She's seen flying in the end.
Yes, I like this costume.
Also, I really enjoyed the final Ultron drones vs Avengers battle. I thought it was really cool. And when it showed up in the form of a statue towards the end, I have to admit that I was drooling the idea of owning such statue. It'd have to be awesome quality though.
My problem with the film is mostly with the somewhat confusing middle parts where they tried to shove in too many subplots. But the action scenes were fun for me.
IncandescentPrecept
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She's seen flying in the end.
Any functional use of that cleavage in her suit?
Maybe she doesn't want to wear a jumpsuit and look stupid?
way more
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Yeah, I'm not feeling the objectification either. Guess I'll skip this one.
Atraveller
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jimmythepage
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While I kinda see the point in your discussion, you totally got this opposite, and perhaps you should rewatch Thor 1, actually no, it's impossible to have a positive opinion about that movie even on the first watch.
Sorry for the derailing, just got back from the cinema, well, I do see some wasted potential here and there, but this movie was solid.
The only thing that plainly felt wrong were the nightmare sections, which had very weird cut/editing and too long screen time, but then we had the hulk buster thing that was awesome, so yeah.
I felt the movie clicked for most the viewers too, all the jokes responded with the room laughing; liked the Ultron/british humor thing, but that kind of villain gets old fast (it felt forced already with Loki in the first Avengers) but overall people seemed more concerned about his lips moving.
I'm not familiar with The Vision character, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, but I guess I could not ask more than a little plain introduction for them, perhaps making a better job on them could've lead to focus less on the main plot.
Anyway I find it super funny how both the Marvel and the DC movies universe are with the "Super heroes are bad for the planet" thing, but that's something that puts his roots in Iron Man 1.
It is just a rumor, based on Amazon's email.
Yeah, in my audience too.
Atraveller
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I want to believe!
How about QS didn't show up in the end because he was still recovering?
After seeing AoU twice now in Theaters I completely understand why the next one will be 2 parts. 2 and a half hours isnt enough time to tell a really epic story and also include ways to tie into the next phase of movies. I thought the movie was good but not better than the first in alot of ways. The bad guy didnt seem as threatening or there wasnt enough tension that made you think he could actually beat the Avengers. Aslo i feel like they killed off Quicksilver because Fox is using him also and they didnt see that coming when writing the script.
Were there any really good Easter Eggs that I might have missed while watching?
Civil war is going to be a challenge as well since the comic uses alot of characters and Spider-man also was a huge focal point for that story. Is Iron man even going to be in it?
Were there any really good Easter Eggs that I might have missed while watching?
Civil war is going to be a challenge as well since the comic uses alot of characters and Spider-man also was a huge focal point for that story. Is Iron man even going to be in it?
Iron Man, Black Panther, Falcon, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch are all confirmed to be in Civil War. Basically nearly everyone is in it except for the people that can't be found like Thor and Hulk. Avengers 2.5 pretty much.
And I would expect a Spider-Man cameo too, but not him to be the focal point. I think that's a good thing since you'll want the whole thing to mainly be about Cap vs Iron Man.
Gif of Ultron flying that jet:
lol, exactly what I thought then. Ultron was such a downgrade from Loki. I don`t know how he`s portrayed in the comics but shouldn`t he be more logical and methodical? He just had his face melted then got wrecked by Hulk, and his reaction to all that was to drive-by with a weakass jet? Take your lost and go home for chrissakes. And whats the purpose of having teeth? or moving lips?
Also, I have two nitpicks. With Loki`s scepter couldn`t Ultron just brainwash the dude with the vibranium, or pretty much anyone with the authority to nuke themselves? Second, wouldn`t it be easier to
Black_Stride
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Well Loki was supposed to win.
Had he won, Thanos would have two gems, the Mind gem(scepter) and the Space Gem(tesseract).
The collector was supposed to have the Aether and the Power gem(Orb).
If things went according to plan he would already have 4 of the six stones.
He might have his death-fetish which means he basically plans to fail as so to embrace death...but so far in the MCU his plans have always been to get the gems but these damn meddling heroes keep stopping his plans.....which is why he is now gonna just do it himself.
Itll just sit there, the same way it did when Thor put the Hammer on Lokis chest.
Her abilities are a different league to Hulk and Thor.
I would rate her above because her abilities are like just hacking reality...i dont think we will ever see the limits of her powers.
Chances are the MCU will only use telekinesis and mind fuckery, but we have already seen that her hexes can essentially disintegrate matter(scream wave during Quick Silver death)
She isnt officially an Omega Class Mutant, but she probably is.
She did get to "kill" Ultron prime by literally ripping out his heart....another show of her strength though is that it was right through his Vibranium Armor.....Caps shield is nothing to her.
Why so serious?
Same thing at my theater. I think the only moment that didn't get a single laugh was the first time Ultron starts quipping while talking with the twins, but I felt like that was because it didn't even register as a joke to people.
Pretty much every other funny line and moment got laughs. Also, Vision lifting the hammer was met with a collective "ooohh", Pietro dying with an "awww...", and so on. Great atmosphere during the whole movie, everyone having a good time. A dude even tried to start clapping at the end but stopped when no one else did it, lol.
Did anyone else find Ultron more easy to sympathise with than Loki?
Like if you remove the Tom Hiddleston puppy dog factor from Loki and compare them both, I find Ultron much more likeable and easier to sympathise with
He even shows empathy and sadness when mortal people die/get hurt/abandon him.
Even though he was kinda shit-fight wise I really did like him as a villain, much more than Loki.
Like if you remove the Tom Hiddleston puppy dog factor from Loki and compare them both, I find Ultron much more likeable and easier to sympathise with
he's definitely much less of a sexist twit
He even shows empathy and sadness when mortal people die/get hurt/abandon him.
Even though he was kinda shit-fight wise I really did like him as a villain, much more than Loki.
Is it bad I want a brainiac 5 redeemed version of ultron
Chuck Norris
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Rather than Civil War I would like to see Marvel move towards the World War Hulk storyline, it seems like they are really setting up something along those lines
ReplacementPelican
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We're talking about a franchise where every solo film has a 'male hero is topless' scene and people are genuinely upset because Scarlet Witch's costume shows less breast than a tank top?
Jesus Christ people, it's only the human body.
Jesus Christ people, it's only the human body.
I honestly thought during the end battle that they would launch the city up into space with Hulk still on it and he would have met the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Last post curse.
Whedon's thing is he humanizes the main villains, so they will stumble, facepalm, make up things as they go along and drop down to proud broken shells when beaten. A bit like real life bad guys.
Though I agree Star Wars might not do grey well, hence why JJ Abrams is a safe choice.
They would have to do Planet Hulk, and implicate Marvel's important characters (Iron Man, Dr. Strange, etc) in some Illuminati conspiracy. Ugh.
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