Zeyphersan
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It's pretty common for an EP credit to just be largely ceremonial. Stan Lee is an executive producer on all Marvel stuff, for example
Avengers: Age of Ultron |OT| If you open this thread, you're an Avenger
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It's pretty common for an EP credit to just be largely ceremonial. Stan Lee is an executive producer on all Marvel stuff, for example
That's kind of what I mean. I can see him being an irregular consultant on future developments in some of the MCU films, but nothing beyond a few e-mail exchanges and phone calls.
Basically, Avengers was his baby in a sense and although he's raised it confidently enough to have enough faith that it'll manage on it's own, I don't think he'll not be there for some infrequent house calls.
Insane Metal
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Someone talked about Winter Soldier a few posts back. I think the fights in WS were on a different level. So much better.
SomedayTheFire
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I liked it. Not as much as the first. Some great scenes, some horrendous ones. Witch was great, Widow/Banner could have been great but they wildly missed the mark.
And yet another potentially fantastic villain cast to the wayside in the worst possible way. Ultron was pretty much useless.
Not sure if a spoiler but I do have a question:
Does Ultron actually believe he is saving the world or is he willingly being deceptive when he says that he is? He wants to kill the Avengers, and that is a bummer but, I could imagine being sympathetic to his cause and I wonder if that'll make for a weak villain in the eyes of viewers.
Corpsepyre
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For those who have seen the movie, rank Ultron alongside other MCU villains, and with Fox's villains as well.
Wilson Fisk = Magneto > Loki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else including Ultron
Manmademan
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Magneto isn't MCU tho
Atraveller
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"With Fox's villains"
He thinks he's saving the world by killing the Avengers and most humans on the planet. He's basically completely crazy.
RadioHammer500
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this technically isn't the last phase 2 movie right,, isn't Ant-Man still phase 2
phase 3 doesnt begin until Civil War?
phase 3 doesnt begin until Civil War?
Leaked? All I see floating about is a cam version, i.e some guy recorded the movie on his phone.
My thoughts:
I'd probably compare it to Dark Knight Rises in terms of having too much in it.
Angry Fork
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peanutbutterlatte
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Well okay. But that's comic books really. It's a comic book movie. I don't see why it's a bad thing.
BenjaminBirdie
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That was SO AMAZING. Ultron is totally Robot California I FUCKING LOVE IT.
peanutbutterlatte
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1. Kingpin
2. Loki
3. Ultron
4. Winter Soldier
5. Thanos
6. The Mandarin when we thought he was legit
7. Nebula (Dat Karen Gillan ass)
8. Agent Pierce
9. Agent Garrett (AoS)
10. Tim Roth's Abomination
11. Ronan
12. Red Skull
13. Obadiah Stane
14. Baron Von Strucker
15. Aldrich Killian
16. Some random Chitauri soldier
17. The guy who shoots Cap's scientist friend/mentor
18. That politician in Iron Man 2
19. Christopher "Give me my money now" Eccleston as The Generic Elf
Because Joss made him look a bot he created about ten years agoThat looks way cooler and menacing. Why did Joss michael bayed Ultron?
During Joss's Astonishing X-Men run the dangerroom turns sentient. And gets all pissy that Xavier didn't notice her "mutation"
Similar story in some ways btw. When they showed Ultron's design this popped into my mind.
roflwaffles
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Super excited to see this, but sad to hear that MCU fails to have a great villain yet again.
Their best so far in the movie-verse is Loki, who is not threatening at all - all of their other villains fall horribly short. Marvel needs Doom.
Their best so far in the movie-verse is Loki, who is not threatening at all - all of their other villains fall horribly short. Marvel needs Doom.
saw this today, it was solid. Maybe i was expecting more but nothing really blew me away. Action was ok although people were right in saying the CGI looked rough in some places.
Ultron wasn't great, maybe they had to gimp him to make him weak? Sick of the hordes of alien/robot gun fodder, there has to be some other opponent by now.
Also, please use that avengers theme more....its the best music in the MCU but it was barely used in the film.
Ultron wasn't great, maybe they had to gimp him to make him weak? Sick of the hordes of alien/robot gun fodder, there has to be some other opponent by now.
Also, please use that avengers theme more....its the best music in the MCU but it was barely used in the film.
YesNOnoNOYes
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i think the villains just need some rooms for development to make them really hitting the marks... i mean the reason why loki and kingpin are compelling is cuz they have some ground work established on them. wouldnt ultron benefit from the same ? i think he would have...
disposing them after one use is devaluing the characters steeply
disposing them after one use is devaluing the characters steeply
Atraveller
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tell that to Matt Murdock. It's the mouth that matters, which is why Ultron got teeth in the movie. And even more than that - a human face.
catashtrophe
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If we are also including FOX villains then the (stupidly over powered) Sentinels from the future are more a threat that anything in the MCU
Late to the party, but I got to see the movie in advanced.
If anyone wants to ask me anything with spoilers, I'll post them in the spoiler thread.
Quick thoughts:
I think it's better than The Avengers.
Doesn't feel like a TV show. lol
Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Taylor-Johnson were good additions to the cast. I was worried that Quicksilver in particular would come off as a pretty one-dimensional character, but definitely not.
As loaded as the cast list was, it didn't feel crowded to me. I thought Whedon and the writers did a good job of utilizing the additional cast well. No one overstayed their welcome, I think.
If anyone wants to ask me anything with spoilers, I'll post them in the spoiler thread.
Quick thoughts:
I think it's better than The Avengers.
Doesn't feel like a TV show. lol
Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Taylor-Johnson were good additions to the cast. I was worried that Quicksilver in particular would come off as a pretty one-dimensional character, but definitely not.
As loaded as the cast list was, it didn't feel crowded to me. I thought Whedon and the writers did a good job of utilizing the additional cast well. No one overstayed their welcome, I think.
eh, but I think Loki was at his compelling in his first appearance, and that he's gotten progressively weaker as a character ever since.
Just watched with the family. Was OK but nothing special. Never really felt like anyone was in jeopardy.
Bad guy just felt like a
and also the strength of the enemy scales based on plot requirements whichever really transparent at times.
Train scene was laughably badly edited - if they needed to cut the running time down then drop the entire scene. There is no build up of pending danger and it is almost farcical how
. Just ridiculous
One other thing is quicksilver. Early on he is
yet later in the movie he is
?
Overall it was OK but it was missing a lot of the spark from the first movie
Bad guy just felt like a
retread of iron man 3
Train scene was laughably badly edited - if they needed to cut the running time down then drop the entire scene. There is no build up of pending danger and it is almost farcical how
fast the train is going just before a buffer - the driver would already be showing down. And then it careers through the streets for ages
One other thing is quicksilver. Early on he is
just knocking over the avengers
destroying ranks of ultra minions. If he has that kind of power then why didn't he kill the avengers
Overall it was OK but it was missing a lot of the spark from the first movie
Tricky I Shadow
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Just got back. Meh. Wake me up when Guardians of the Galaxy 2 is out.
The whole movie did have a very uneven look. For some reason the iron man suit looked cheap as hell and like you said the opening was a clusterfuck.
Movie was pretty bad and tired. Ultron was the most boring villain I can remember.
You serious? You think there's only one (bad) way to write and direct comic book movies?
I watched it, somtimes I felt Whedon was boycotting it, Ultron is a pseudo-mandarin tier joke and I was surprised at how this doesn't connect to the future of the MCU. I liked the darker tone and the good score, Hulk was retreaded but good, and both BW and HE are becoming surprisingly good characters. I don't want to see Iron Man ever again tho.
7/10, better than Av1 for me because of the higher tension, but admitedly far less solid
7/10, better than Av1 for me because of the higher tension, but admitedly far less solid
Probably something to do with the new ILM office in London, but I could be wrong.
Maybe some of it was even outsourced.
peanutbutterlatte
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We're not.
I feel like you're wildly misrepresenting what I said to fit your argument, but yes, of course that's what I'm saying. Joss Whedon should direct Batman, Superman, Dr. Strange and everything else. Give your box a little tick.
Bobby Roberts
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It's always slightly confusing/dissonant to see people who obviously spend a lot of time following superheroes/superhero movies, who subsist largely on a cinematic diet of films they voluntarily call "franchises," complaining about the concept of "fan-service."
It's like complaining about a car because there's an engine in it.
Also, just saw that clip of the Twins & Ultron and I... don't like Ultron. That doesn't look good. They shouldn't have done that.
It's like complaining about a car because there's an engine in it.
Also, just saw that clip of the Twins & Ultron and I... don't like Ultron. That doesn't look good. They shouldn't have done that.
roflwaffles
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If we're including Fox, then Magneto and X2 Stryker blow away all the MCU villains.
Zeyphersan
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I'm not seeing Sam Rockwell's Justin Hammer on that list. He's clearly #1
Pft, and people made fun of me for thinking it was fake.
Father_Brain
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The people who believed it were dumb, in a word. Sure, I suppose Feige and Whedon might lie about Spider-Man being in the film to maintain the element of surprise, but what on earth would they have gained from lying about the existence of a post-credits scene?
I mean, I wouldn't go so far as to say that they were "dumb", but they were blinded by hype in the worst way possible. It went so far as to them believing not only that Joss Whedon was lying, but for even the thread title with this video to not at all mention that it was a rumor but basically present it as fact. And even when it was proven in many ways to be faked, people still clung onto hope and defended it.
The hype went too far for this film.
Father_Brain
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Yeah, "gullible" would be a better word.
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