Dark Knight Rises v Man of Steel (Which one sucked more?)

Which one sucked more?

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Ushay said:
My thoughts exactly. MoS wins easily. Man just looking at that Batman gif makes me cringe at the combat..
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Batman's issue was poor cinematography, IMO. That combat sequence could have looked awesome if presented properly. I think that Nolan was going for some kind of retro and possible comic book-inspired brawl scene, but editing would have made it a lot more engaging.

For instance, when he kicks the middle thug, the guy accidentally shoots his friend. That's a really cool idea and should be very clear to the audience, but it isn't at all. Watching without sound, it looks like the guy on the left crumples to the floor for no reason.
 
They were both stupid, but at least Man of Steel was super shit being stupid, so you could kind of pass it off. Batman was trying to be realistic, which made everything 10000x worse. It lost me at the Wall Street heist and never got me back. Just so, so stupid.
 
Thor 2 was a fine movie. The hate for it can be a little odd. For one, I don't understand how it wasn't "fun", which I assume means having a humorous, playful tone while sticking to comic book fantasy (like all the Marvel films do, perhaps to a limiting degree).

Never actually saw Man of Steel; lacked motivation since it's been so spoiled for me.
 
The people who made Thor 2 should be in prison. The fact that they aren't is a disgusting indictment on humanity, and I'm appalled. If you're okay with these people going free: Wow. Just fucking wow.

I hope some day we can live in a world where we can grow to ignore the fact that Thor 2 existed, but I just don't know.
 
Really hard to say.

Man of Steel is definitely the least offensive of the three.
First time I saw Thor 2 I fell asleep (but that was due to finals) but when I tried rewatching it I couldn't finish it because the plot and logic of the characters was so terrible.
TDKR was stupid. Characters act stupid and it has this weird clash of extremely campy character actions within a self-serious world.

I'd say Man of Steel > TDKR >>>>> Thor 2.
I hate what they did to Superman and in there were some questionable things in the movie but at least it never felt off. Just sort of boring and kind of a downer for a Superman movie.
 
munchie64 said:
No worse or better than literally any other fanbase.
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At large, sure, on gaf, not so much. There are different proportions of different types of people on here. Gaf is not a perfect representation of fanbases as a whole, it's a skewed demographic with its own inherent biases and prejudices depending on what kind of people make up the population of users. This is why there are so many message boards on the internet and they're all a bit different. In any case, I didn't say MCU fans aren't shitty. I said as much in the post that's being quoted. It's just an anecdotal observation that DC fans are exceptionally defensive, as shown above. It's what I've seen. However, I am not an objective observer, so obviously I may not be getting an accurate picture of the forum as a whole.
 
TDKR sucks, but Man of Steel really takes the cake. I've honestly never been let down by a movie after seeing the trailer like MoS. Such a disjointed, over the top, hollow piece of shit.

What the fuck happened to Snyder after Watchmen, I wonder.
 
Lionel Mandrake said:
The people who made Thor 2 should be in prison. The fact that they aren't is a disgusting indictment on humanity, and I'm appalled. If you're okay with these people going free: Wow. Just fucking wow.

I hope some day we can live in a world where we can grow to ignore the fact that Thor 2 existed, but I just don't know.
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Holy shit some overreactions in this thread.
 
But really.
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But in all seriousness, fuck Thor 2.

Edit: It's not so much a movie, as it is a piece of fucking garbage.

Edit 2: If I would have made Thor 2, I'd be in a laboratory underground, being studied as some sort of paranormal vortex of non-talent.

Edit 3: In a lot of ways, Thor 2 is a lot like a shoe glued to a hat-- in that it's a piece of useless bullshit that nobody enjoys.

Edit 4: A joke: Two technicians are in a vault underground. Each one has a key, and when both are turned simultaneously, nuclear missiles will be launched across the globe and end all of humanity. One technician turns to the other and says, "If you want, we can watch my copy of Thor 2 on blu-ray," and the other technician slits his goddamn wrist, preferring it to watching the travesty that is Thor 2. Whatever happens next can't be worse than Thor fucking 2,
 
guek said:
At large, sure, on gaf, not so much. There are different proportions of different types of people on here. Gaf is not a perfect representation of fanbases as a whole, it's a skewed demographic with its own inherent biases and prejudices depending on what kind of people make up the population of users. This is why there are so many message boards on the internet and they're all a bit different. In any case, I didn't say MCU fans aren't shitty. I said as much in the post that's being quoted. It's just an anecdotal observation that DC fans are exceptionally defensive, as shown above. It's what I've seen. However, I am not an objective observer, so obviously I may not be getting an accurate picture of the forum as a whole.
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I disagree with your implying that the DC fans here behave worse than the Marvel fans. Again, shitposts with veiled comparisons to the MCU movies seem so common in threads like World's Finest Three Year Wait that the expectation exists for it in every thread (bloated, trainwreck, clusterfuck, "on your left", "copying marvel", etc.).

So yeah, while defensive might be a fair moniker, there's a pretty good reason for it. As far as antagonism goes, I reiterate my original thought on the matter: Marvel fans here can be much worse. I like the MCU for what it is, but there are times where fan behavior really strains my looking forward to more of it.
 
vio said:
Thor 2 should be way further ahead. First movie was so much better.
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Agreed, though I think I enjoyed Thor 2 a bit more than Man of Steel. Neither movie was particularly bad, but not that good either. They're about as close as you can get to 'average' movies in the superhero genre.
 
TDKR has all the problems of trilogy-ending movies but it wasn't bad. Just not as good as the first two. As the conclusion to Bruce Wayne's story it was great, as a Batman movie not so much.

Man of Steel and Thor 2 were just bad. At no point did I give a shit about the characters.
 
Lionel Mandrake said:
But in all seriousness, fuck Thor 2.

Edit: It's not so much a movie, as it is a piece of fucking garbage.

Edit 2: If I would have made Thor 2, I'd be in a laboratory underground, being studied as some sort of paranormal vortex of non-talent.

Edit 3: In a lot of ways, Thor 2 is a lot like a shoe glued to a hat-- in that it's a piece of useless bullshit that nobody enjoys.

Edit 4: A joke: Two technicians are in a vault underground. Each one has a key, and when both are turned simultaneously, nuclear missiles will be launched across the globe and end all of humanity. One technician turns to the other and says, "If you want, we can watch my copy of Thor 2 on blu-ray," and the other technician slits his goddamn wrist, preferring it to watching the travesty that is Thor 2. Whatever happens next can't be worse than Thor fucking 2,
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Now I look like a fool for snickering at this at work.
 
Lionel Mandrake said:
But in all seriousness, fuck Thor 2.

Edit: It's not so much a movie, as it is a piece of fucking garbage.

Edit 2: If I would have made Thor 2, I'd be in a laboratory underground, being studied as some sort of paranormal vortex of non-talent.

Edit 3: In a lot of ways, Thor 2 is a lot like a shoe glued to a hat-- in that it's a piece of useless bullshit that nobody enjoys.

Edit 4: A joke: Two technicians are in a vault underground. Each one has a key, and when both are turned simultaneously, nuclear missiles will be launched across the globe and end all of humanity. One technician turns to the other and says, "If you want, we can watch my copy of Thor 2 on blu-ray," and the other technician slits his goddamn wrist, preferring it to watching the travesty that is Thor 2. Whatever happens next can't be worse than Thor fucking 2,
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You should've done a write up for Thor 2.
 
Marc said:
+1

TDKR had so many silly plotholes and ideas like sending the entire police force underground? Why wouldn't you bring in the national guard and FBI etc. if it required that amount of force. Or the idea of a prison in the middle of nowhere with no guards, yet still have caged cells that are left open with a huge way of getting out. Where we have in the past seen many prisoners work together to achieve escape, here they're happy to be left alone. With no real sewage system possible, no food/water distribution... they didn't think it through at all. Then magically transports back to his city at the exact right moment required after months, spending what would take days to paint a giant bat symbol on a bridge with flammable liquid. With the big plan being to blow up the city, something they could have rigged in weeks rather than months and not require a fucking nuke.



Man of Steel has issues with dialogue, pacing and a lack of a good story but it functions. I really didn't like their take on it, but it was vaguely cohesive at least. The fucking dog/dad scene and bus crash put to one side among other stupid decisions.
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This is pretty much how I feel. MoS is just your usual poor superhero story but with some good action. TDKR was just plain awful.

Haven't seen Thor 2 but after the first one. I doubt it amounts too much either.
 
MOS had Faora kicking ass in smallville. Better movie by default.

edit: Natalie Portman`s character in Thor 2 lol. What a hell?
 
Saw this thread earlier and found it a hard decision, with Thor 2 on the table it becomes very, very easy. Outside of Captain America (and perhaps Avengers, haven't seen it yet), the drop in quality for MCU sequels is ridiculous, it's a testament to the original movies that Marvel has so much good will amongst fans to look past them.
 
_DrMario_ said:
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The editing in this really bothers me. It seems like the way the camera animates is meant to cover up the fact that this is actually not a single consecutive shot but several shots that weirdly blend into one another. So much CG and yet they can't even figure out how to do a consecutive shot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Man of Steel is a worse film than TDKR, but it was a more enjoyable experience at the cinema. Both felt like they wee going in for too long, but MoS had fun (albeit overly long at the end) fight scenes. I dislike both.

Thor: The Dark World... Dislike it. Bad human characters. Bad villain. Thor wasn't written well enough. Loki was really enjoyable though, as was the interdimensional fight.

1) Thor: The Dark World
2) Man of Steel
3) The Dark Knight Rises

That was a difficult list. I liked Thor more because of my Marvel leanings and also that I don't like what they did to Superman, one of my favourite heroes.
 
Inferno313 said:
The Dark Knight Rises is a disappointment compared to what came before, but it's far from an outright bad film... Which is what Man of Steel is.
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This is exactly how I feel.
TDKR was definitely disappointing and I have no real desire to watch it again but I did enjoy certain aspects of it at the time - especially any scenes involving Bane.

MoS was just mediocre/bad the whole way through and has no real redeemable qualities.
 
Disliked both heavily, but I think I'm going to save Man of Steel.

TDKR had way higher expectations, and failed tremendously. At least MoS will make me watch it a second time before BvS drops... maybe.
 
Looked up Rotten Tomatoes just for my own interest. Thought I'd share (not using these for any kind of argument):

The Dark Knight Rises: 88% (Top Critics: 76%)
Thor: The Dark World: 66% (Top Critics: 56%)
Man of Steel: 56% (Top Critics: 62%)
And just for fun, The Amazing Spider-Man 2: 53% (Top Critics: 52%)

I don't necessarily agree, but it's interesting that the only movie to improve with top critics in Man of Steel of all things.
Dark Knight Rises being Certified Fresh does make me happy though.
 
Mengy said:
Bullshit. Absolute Bullshit and fanboyish attitude saying that Thor 2 had nothing of worth. The assault on Asgard alone is the best Star Wars moment we've had on film since Return of the Jedi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHvlxX-58I0


I'm not saying that MoS didn't have good action, it did, but to say that Thor 2 didn't while MoS did is just showing bias pure and simple. Thor 2 had some really good action scenes if you were open to actually watching them.




Yeah, well no one would argue with that!
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Hey man, if you liked it, that's fine, but it didn't do anything for me. Most of the set pieces Hollywood seems to produce these days fail to catch my attention to be honest. It's just forgettable CGI directed in the most workman-like fashion.

You also reminded me of the "Thor 2 is an awesome mix of LOTR and Star Wars!" comments that were so prevalent when that movie came out, and I just can't agree with that.

Maybe if you're talking about the prequels and the hobbit films, nyah!
 
I've literally watched Man of Steel for the first time a few hours ago and I was floored, which I don't mean as a compliment. All around a pretty awful film, and even though The Dark Knight Rises wasn't great either, there still were a few things I enjoyed a lot.

But I suppose you already expected as much, thus the "which sucked more" in your thread title, so my answer is: Man of Steel sucked more. The Dark Knight Rises sucked less.
 
The addition of Thor to the poll has skewed the results substantially.

Now it's been made into a Marvel vs DC poll, where the DC votes are split.

DKR is now just Nader, spoiling it for MOS Gore.
 
The Dark Knight Rises although flawed was enjoyable. Great soundtrack, great performances and Bane was a good villain.

Man of Steel was a mess of a movie and such a disappointment
 
Man of Steel was much more disappointing, after the epic build up of that the trailers gave us, the actual film was a dogs breakfast.

TDKR was very good considering it was the third movie in the Nolan Batman universe (thus it was bound to be a little "down" compared to the two epic movies before it). I still think it was leaps and bounds better than The Avengers released the same year.

The most disappointing thing about TDKR for me was the re-editing of Bane's voice, it took a lot of the impact of many of the scenes int he film (the edited in version seems too "enhanced" and detracts from the experience).
 
Sheesh thread title is MOS vs TDKR and then you throw Thor 2 into the poll? Anyway given your poll the answer is Thor 2. TDKR is a better film than MOS too although I can see action junkies preferring MOS because it has loadsa CGI action,
 
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