Avengers: Age of Ultron |OT| If you open this thread, you're an Avenger

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Seeing this Thurs night. Trying so hard not to search anything about this movie outside of this thread and box office stuff.

I just need to know:
Does Thor get at least 1 'big' moment? Like fighting the frost giants in Thor 1, or frying several leviathans with his god blast in Avengers?

Not really. His biggest individual moment is
going for a dip in a paddling pool in a cave.
 
I think critics are much harsher on a sequel that does not raise the bar. And though audiences seem to be into these movies as much as ever, reviewers seem to be much more tired of the superhero genre.

The most consistent complaint I've read is that it feels like a middle chapter and that it does not firmly surpass the first. Most say existing fans will be pleased though so I'm expecting to like it.

I'm still disappointed reviews were better. I was expecting a 85+ RT.

its the winter soldier affect. reviewers are tired of consistent quips and want substance like TWS which was a great movie more than a comic book movie. I might think this is the reviewers telling the film makers its time for the film quality to grow
 
So I watched this and there is a really transition on how he actually got his body, it just shows him humming 'no strings on me' and goes straight to him talking to the twins.
 
its the winter soldier affect. reviewers are tired of consistent quips and want substance like TWS which was a great movie more than a comic book movie. I might think this is the reviewers telling the film makers its time for the film quality to grow
I don't think quips are the problem, personally. It was fully to expect more of a genre piece like Winter Soldier with AoU. They were always going to make a movie built more around spectacle than substance to try and entertain the largest audience possible, just like with the first film. I wish they would aim higher with Avengers but I'm not surprised they haven't. I think it's more reasonable to expect that with Infinity War simply due to being 2 parts instead of just one.
 
Just an idea brought up in the MCU thread, do you think Marvel should a theatrical release of the Extended Cut of Age of Ultron in October? It's apparently much longer than the current theatrical cut & the date wouldn't clash with Star Wars over in December.
 
Just an idea brought up in the MCU thread, do you think Marvel should a theatrical release of the Extended Cut of Age of Ultron in October? It's apparently much longer than the current theatrical cut & the date wouldn't clash with Star Wars over in December.
What a brilliant idea. Truly, whoever suggested it in the MCU thread is a god among men ;-)
 
Just an idea brought up in the MCU thread, do you think Marvel should a theatrical release of the Extended Cut of Age of Ultron in October? It's apparently much longer than the current theatrical cut & the date wouldn't clash with Star Wars over in December.

There is an extended cut? Is there a link on this somewhere?
 
I don't care. I just want an extended cut for the home release. Because Age of Ultron is weirdly cut and not even an extended cut would solve all of the problems. It would solve some though.

It was a super funny movie and it hit the right notes when it comes to humor but much of everything else let something to be desired.

Actually, the absolute best thing about the whole movie is Scarlet Witch.
 
Extended cut? For reals?

I'm buying this Blu-ray.
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I'm seeing this Thursday and trying my best not to read spoilers! I already accidentally read one I'm not too happy about.
 
It's insane seeing Furious 7 ahead of AAU (78% vs 82%) on RT. But what's really ultrageous is that The Babadook sits at 98%, what the flying fuck.
 
I've seen it twice now. The first time, I was disappointed. Second time, I was able to pick up on a lot more and now I love it. It's not on the same level as Winter Soldier or GotG, but it's closer than any of the other Marvel movies.

It's not as "fun" as the first, but it's not trying to be. My only complaints:

- The finale isn't as good as the original. It's not bad by any means, just not quite as stirring.
- There's some awkward scene transitions that left me a little confused. Second time I watched it, I knew they were coming and just went with it, but an extended version could help. It feels like they really struggled to get the running time down.
- It didn't do a good job of explaining Scarlett Witch's powers.
- Thor's subplot feels completely unnecessary.

What I loved:

-The dialogue (not just the quips) is fantastic.
- It's waaay more consistent than the first movie which I thought was completely mediocre until the helicarrier attack. This one starts strong and stays strong.
- James Spader
- They found a great angle on the Hawkeye character without turning him into "generic badass."
- I thought Vision looked a little goofy at first, but he won me over.
 
I've seen it twice now. The first time, I was disappointed. Second time, I was able to pick up on a lot more and now I love it. It's not on the same level as Winter Soldier or GotG, but it's closer than any of the other Marvel movies.

It's not as "fun" as the first, but it's not trying to be. My only complaints:

- The finale isn't as good as the original. It's not bad by any means, just not quite as stirring.
- There's some awkward scene transitions that left me a little confused. Second time I watched it, I knew they were coming and just went with it, but an extended version could help. It feels like they really struggled to get the running time down.
- It didn't do a good job of explaining Scarlett Witch's powers.
- Thor's subplot feels completely unnecessary.

What I loved:

-The dialogue (not just the quips) is fantastic.
- It's waaay more consistent than the first movie which I thought was completely mediocre until the helicarrier attack. This one starts strong and stays strong.
- James Spader
- They found a great angle on the Hawkeye character without turning him into "generic badass."
- I thought Vision looked a little goofy at first, but he won me over.

Glad to see it stays good on repeat viewings. I know I'll probably end up seeing this like four times in theaters when all is said and done
 
I've seen it twice now. The first time, I was disappointed. Second time, I was able to pick up on a lot more and now I love it. It's not on the same level as Winter Soldier or GotG, but it's closer than any of the other Marvel movies.

It's not as "fun" as the first, but it's not trying to be. My only complaints:

- The finale isn't as good as the original. It's not bad by any means, just not quite as stirring.
- There's some awkward scene transitions that left me a little confused. Second time I watched it, I knew they were coming and just went with it, but an extended version could help. It feels like they really struggled to get the running time down.
- It didn't do a good job of explaining Scarlett Witch's powers.
- Thor's subplot feels completely unnecessary.

What I loved:

-The dialogue (not just the quips) is fantastic.
- It's waaay more consistent than the first movie which I thought was completely mediocre until the helicarrier attack. This one starts strong and stays strong.
- James Spader
- They found a great angle on the Hawkeye character without turning him into "generic badass."
- I thought Vision looked a little goofy at first, but he won me over.

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We also know that certain theaters were listing the movie at 160 minutes a month before release.

But that does not confirm it.

As has been said, rough cuts are usually much longer, and we don't know the motives and sources of whoever wrote the Amazon UK email. It could have taken Joss Whedon's comment of their being a lot of extra material on the DVD out of proportion.
 
Glad to see it stays good on repeat viewings. I know I'll probably end up seeing this like four times in theaters when all is said and done

The only reason a saw it a second time is because my friend wanted to go. I'm glad I did, otherwise I would still feel disappointed. Now I'm actually excited to see it for a third time.
 
The only reason a saw it a second time is because my friend wanted to go. I'm glad I did, otherwise I would still feel disappointed. Now I'm actually excited to see it for a third time.

Good to know, I'm planning on seeing it multiple times too (family, friends, etc.).

Three more days!?!
 
Just an idea brought up in the MCU thread, do you think Marvel should a theatrical release of the Extended Cut of Age of Ultron in October? It's apparently much longer than the current theatrical cut & the date wouldn't clash with Star Wars over in December.
Sure, why not, Avatar did it.
 
My only complaints:

- The finale isn't as good as the original. It's not bad by any means, just not quite as stirring.
- There's some awkward scene transitions that left me a little confused. Second time I watched it, I knew they were coming and just went with it, but an extended version could help. It feels like they really struggled to get the running time down.
- It didn't do a good job of explaining Scarlett Witch's powers.
- Thor's subplot feels completely unnecessary.

What I loved:

-The dialogue (not just the quips) is fantastic.
- It's waaay more consistent than the first movie which I thought was completely mediocre until the helicarrier attack. This one starts strong and stays strong.
- James Spader
- They found a great angle on the Hawkeye character without turning him into "generic badass."
- I thought Vision looked a little goofy at first, but he won me over.

This matches with my feelings too.

One point about the finale in AoU that is notably better than the first film's, is there is no magic reset button like the Chitari all dropping dead the moment the nuke goes off.
 
Just an idea brought up in the MCU thread, do you think Marvel should a theatrical release of the Extended Cut of Age of Ultron in October? It's apparently much longer than the current theatrical cut & the date wouldn't clash with Star Wars over in December.
I see them doing this only if the movie ends up a couple million shy of making 2 billion worldwide and they do a re-release to get it over. The Dark Knight did something similar when it was only a little bit below grossing a Billion.
 
Just an idea brought up in the MCU thread, do you think Marvel should a theatrical release of the Extended Cut of Age of Ultron in October? It's apparently much longer than the current theatrical cut & the date wouldn't clash with Star Wars over in December.

I know it's purely rumour now about an extended cut hitting home media but that would be great too if it ever came about, I think it's highly unlikely but I would be all over that, this film would greatly benefit from an extended cut I think. I was disappointed with it in it's current form, some subplots and story threads just don't work for me as they are (Thor's specifically - think a few have mentioned that on here already), you can tell they've trimmed it down as much as they could.
 
I want to see Thor knock someone through a mountain. I want to see him split the landscape in two with a single blow. I want to see him be a god :-(


me too, biggest disappointment of the MCU movies so far, but sadly I guess we're out of luck
 
Just to confirm, I received the email as well so that is definitely real and I honestly doubt that Amazon would just make it up, I cannot remember them doing that for any other film.

I know I got it too but until Marvel themselves confirm it I'll take it with a grain of salt, though it would make sense with this film. The film badly needs it though, in my opinion.
 
I know I got it too but until Marvel themselves confirm it I'll take it with a grain of salt, though it would make sense with this film. The film badly needs it though, in my opinion.

Yep. I feel like this is one of the rare cases where a movie needs to be longer. Personally I wouldn't have minded if they trimmed down some of the action scenes to make room in the regular version, but realistically, I know they would never do that.
 
I've seen it twice now. The first time, I was disappointed. Second time, I was able to pick up on a lot more and now I love it. It's not on the same level as Winter Soldier or GotG, but it's closer than any of the other Marvel movies.

It's not as "fun" as the first, but it's not trying to be. My only complaints:

- The finale isn't as good as the original. It's not bad by any means, just not quite as stirring.
- There's some awkward scene transitions that left me a little confused. Second time I watched it, I knew they were coming and just went with it, but an extended version could help. It feels like they really struggled to get the running time down.
- It didn't do a good job of explaining Scarlett Witch's powers.
- Thor's subplot feels completely unnecessary.

What I loved:

-The dialogue (not just the quips) is fantastic.
- It's waaay more consistent than the first movie which I thought was completely mediocre until the helicarrier attack. This one starts strong and stays strong.
- James Spader
- They found a great angle on the Hawkeye character without turning him into "generic badass."
- I thought Vision looked a little goofy at first, but he won me over.

Honestly, Scarlet Witch's powers have always been a bit... convoluted in any media.
 
Yep. I feel like this is one of the rare cases where a movie needs to be longer. Personally I wouldn't have minded if they trimmed down some of the action scenes to make room in the regular version, but realistically, I know they would never do that.

Yeah, I can't remember many other times where I walked out of the cinema thinking "That film needed to be longer". The
Thor subplot just seems like it's been diluted down from something more substantial.
 
I want to see Thor knock someone through a mountain. I want to see him split the landscape in two with a single blow. I want to see him be a god :-(
He has a cool part when I actually remembered "Hey, this guy is a god, who knew".

What I liked? Hawkguy. The first thing besides the Captain America scenes with Peggy that have made me feel something in these movies.

Embrace it, Marvel Studios, Hawkguy>>>Hawkeye
 
Yeah, I can't remember many other times where I walked out of the cinema thinking "That film needed to be longer".

Yeah, and the pisser is, it only needs an extra 10 minutes or so to flesh out all the bits that suffered the most cuts. Didn't need to be a 3½ epic, and pacing wouldn't have been impacted by fleshing out the Ultron origin or building up the
Thor-in-a-pond
scene enough to make any sense.
 
Why is that?
I'm exaggerating a bit.

It just ignores what happened in Iron Man 3 and The Winter Soldier, and how those events would have affected both Steve and Tony. And then the whole Fury thing pisses on Agents of Shield. But I won't get into spoiler territory in this thread.
 
I'm exaggerating a bit.

It just ignores what happened in Iron Man 3 and The Winter Soldier, and how those events would have affected both Steve and Tony. And then the whole Fury thing pisses on Agents of Shield. But I won't get into spoiler territory in this thread.

Yeep, totally agreed, I couldn't believe my eyes, they set up such interesting dynamics, it's like this movie is a prequel and goes before Iron man 3 an WS. This is Avengers 1.5 dudes, the real Avengers 2 is Civil War.
 
On the contrary, I really don't think Civil War is gonna be an Avengers type film. I don't expect Team Cap to go up against Team Tony in an all out battle.

It'll be small cameos with a strong focus on Captain America and his issue with Tony Stark and his standpoint toward the registration.

I think the bigger roles are gonna be Captain America, Iron Man, Black Panther, Crossbones and Baron Zemo. Everyone else will be small cameos, including Spider-Man.
 
I'm exaggerating a bit.

It just ignores what happened in Iron Man 3 and The Winter Soldier, and how those events would have affected both Steve and Tony. And then the whole Fury thing pisses on Agents of Shield. But I won't get into spoiler territory in this thread.

The first Avengers kind of does this too. Iron Man 2 ends with Stark being assigned as a consultant for the Avengers than an actual member, and Thor ends with the Bifrost destroyed and him being stick in Asgard, cut off from Earth. Then both of these things are immediately handwaved in the movie to have them on the team.

As for the bolded, I really think people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think Agents of SHIELD is ever, in any way, going to be felt in the movies. The show has too small of an audience to ever matter to or affect the movie side of things. That's why Whedon said he's treating it as if Coulson is dead -- because as far the people who just see the movies are concerned, he still is.
 
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