Smooth Operator
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According to the people who leaked infos on SFV, it's only for PS4 and PC. And updates à la League of Legends / Killer Instinct.
SFV is exclusive to PS4/PC, But what about SSFV or USFV?
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Or maybe it was Ono who approached them? Who knows.
The man wanted to make SFV and Capcom was being Capcom.
He needed outside help to speed things along. Who makes more sense as a partner, Microsoft or Sony?
Could be wrong but from the language being used by both Sony & Capcom I'd be really surprised if any version of SFV appeared on anything but PC or PlayStation. Quite often companies feather around what's going on with deals like this but I don't think that they could be any clearer about this game.
Will there be Super/Ultra type releases down the line? I'd be surprised if it didn't happen in some form even if's only in the form of DLC, they could have a "Super" upgrade for people who own the standard game or the full latest edition for people who don't. Not sure what form it will take but I'd be amazed if the version if SFV that people are playing at launch is the same as the version that people are playing, 2 years, 4 years, etc down the line. Capcom will likely have things they want to change and there's money to be made from different editions.
Will there be Super/Ultra type releases down the line? I'd be surprised if it didn't happen in some form even if's only in the form of DLC, they could have a "Super" upgrade for people who own the standard game or the full latest edition for people who don't. Not sure what form it will take but I'd be amazed if the version if SFV that people are playing at launch is the same as the version that people are playing, 2 years, 4 years, etc down the line. Capcom will likely have things they want to change and there's money to be made from different editions.
Sure, that's why it's also coming to PC.
Some of you are very naive. It's obvious that Sony payed Capcom to keep this game as a console exclusive. But hey, it's ok. Moneyhats are part of the industry.
Stone Ocean
Member
No, Sony paid Capcom to make SFV in the first place
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
It might but it aint gonna be a disc only update.
And I believe mostly everyone agrees with that. Thing is SFV would have come at a much later date. I don't even think 2018 was very likely. SSFIV will most likely happen but it will be a DLC title update a la AE and USF4. That's pretty much what everyone is saying.
HORRORSHØW
Member
of course SFV would have happened independent of sony's intervention; their funding expedited the process.
One really needs to only look at Capcom's current gen output so far to see they arent willing to make full AAA games themselves at this point.
SolidSnakex
Member
So are you just going to ignore Ono's comments about not having funding for SFV as well as well as comments from Ayano that it wouldn't come until at least 2018? Something clearly changed and it's pretty clear what it is.
Vital Tundra
Member
I don't think Sony has said anything about 3 way crossplatform, but Microsoft has made it clear that it isn't happening.
krypt0nian
Banned
Well it is the fighting game home this gen. 
It's probably not a good idea to act smug with very little understanding of how contracts actually work.
Sony certainly did not seal the deck with pitch or tar to prevent leakage.
EmptySpace
Banned
there has been a lot of articles and rumours about capcom being in financial stress, and ono having trouble securing funding for the next sf.
i believe sony stepped in to accelerate the development of sf and make it possible sooner, instead of it being in pre-production hell.
not the same as tomb raider. in fact, at least sfv only on ps4 makes more sense than tomb raider only on xbone.
While I have no idea what will happen that is not necessarily the case. Mass effect 1 eventually ended up on the ps3.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
I actually know what the deal was with this and no, they didn't pay money to keep it off Xbone.
Next you'll tell me that they moneyhatted Dragon's Dogma Online and Deep Down to keep them off Xbone. Lol.
Don't bother. The differences between this and the Tomb Raider scenario have been discussed plenty of times but some people won't try to understand. I'm just glad SFV is coming much sooner than expected but I need to get a new stick already. Also, SF4 is about to be 7 years old (considering the arcade release).
Stone Ocean
Member
I still don't get why people keep thinking SFV in the foreseeable future was a given
Each Capcom fighting game after Vanilla sold less than the one before and Capcom isn't exactly in the best financial conditions. SFV within the first half of the generation would not happen without external funding. Even Ultra only happened because it barely needed any effort since 90% of the assets they needed were done.
Each Capcom fighting game after Vanilla sold less than the one before and Capcom isn't exactly in the best financial conditions. SFV within the first half of the generation would not happen without external funding. Even Ultra only happened because it barely needed any effort since 90% of the assets they needed were done.
Infernostew
Member
Official sources from Capcom also claimed RE4 will never be on PS2. Anything is possible when it comes to Cacpom. Also I have a PS4 so i don't need to have wishful thinking.
Deal. But the avatar has to be there for a year.
lmao.
You're such a try harder, do something more productive with your time like carving soap, son
So you are saying that Capcom is not going to release a new entry of one of his most popular IPs in a platform with a ~15M userbase because reasons? Hard to believe without any proof but you are the "insider" here, so i will give them the benefit of the doubt.
BTW, Dragon's Dogma is a not-so-popular IP and also a MMO with cross platform play, something that MS doesn't allow. And Deep Down... well i totally see why Capcom is not bringing Deep Down to the Xbox One.
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Microsoft will probably at least bring it to the Windows 10 store. Sony being involved makes matters complicated for Xbox users.
I don't know, why do you need a Super version when you have the original game updated to version 2.0?
krypt0nian
Banned
Kssio_Aug
Member
Honestly, every exclusivity deal is different from one another. And its wrong to believe that both cases (TR and SFV) were evil or holy. Both cases are just business, and none of them are trully good for players (sacrificing XB1 players for the entire gen for a early release is not a good thing in their eyes for obvious reasons).
I just hope to see SSFV in XB1 as PS4 players will still be able to play TR. But if that never happens, its sad, but something people can live with.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
no they paid for it to come out sooner
Fair enough. Situation is still different to a degree because Sony owns the EGR IP, not pub funded game and SSM/Sony are going to be credited which rules out a PC version in these circumstances. With SFV Sony seems to have helped accelerated the project going by pervious comments from devs.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Well they're yet to release numbers but there's been posters I believe from both DH and IG have posted saying the game has done well.
Season 3 is heavily rumoured to be on the cards and they successfully crowdfunded $100K in less than 72 hours using a character and fake in game money as the donation option.
Safe to say the game has at a minimum paid for its development. At minimum.
Pretty sure SFV was already in development and Capcom took the Sony deal because it means faster dev time, less out-of-pocket costs for them and fighting games tend to sell better on PS platforms than on Xbox anyway.
Sony didn't even have to pay to make Guilty Gear Xrd PS exclusive, ArcSys just decided the projected sales of an Xbox version would not be worth the time and cost of developing that version.
Sony didn't even have to pay to make Guilty Gear Xrd PS exclusive, ArcSys just decided the projected sales of an Xbox version would not be worth the time and cost of developing that version.
That 90% of the assets were done is the reason the games were selling less one after the other. The same is true for past Street Fighter entries as well. Once you essentially start selling patches, you lose the sales of everyone outside of the hardcore fans. The sales of Super, Ultra etc have no real bearing on the sales potential of a Street Fighter V, and Capcom knows this.
Besides, if they really weren't looking to make a new Street Fighter, what else exactly was going to improve their situation? Street Fighter is their second biggest franchise after Resident Evil, and is considerably cheaper to produce.
So yea, I'm not too convinced that a Street Fighter V wasn't happening regardless. Ono's statement of "no money" is contradicted by his later statement of how easy it was to convince Capcom to make a new one due to Street Fighter 4's performance.
Then no worries when it never comes for xb1. See? All good.
Thanks krypt0nian. But the thought of X1 players not being able to play this game keeps me up at night
EmptySpace
Banned
obviously sfv is different. we would've seen "sony computer entertainment presents" during the trailer if sony fully published it.
rapture is like ratchet+clank. sony most likely owns the ip.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
4th years old
Yes, if it was the same type of deal.
There's still no demon's souls on MS platforms or dead rising/titanfall on Sony platforms.
Also, Mass Effect can be considered an exception as the studio was bought by EA. Who then went on to release ME on other platforms.
Omnistalgic
Member
but it's not though...this move will likely grow the community.
PC vs. Console fights baby. No salt needed.
krypt0nian
Banned
Invite them over!
Well it is the fighting game home this gen.
PS4? Eeeh.... Even (?) Vita has a far superior library and given how much developers scaled back their efforts to develop new fighting games, its quite bad all around.
Shadoken
Member
This... Sick and tired of all the Sony Fanboys making it look like Sony saved the franchise or w/e.
This is not Bayonetta 2 ffs. SF4 was 3m+ , SSF4,USF4,AE were all 1m.
Noway in hell SF5 wasnt already on lock.
Would it have been made with such a big marketting budget? and a 500k Prize Pot for Capcom Cup? Probably not. Sony deal definitely injected some good cash for the franchise. But overall , the game was going to be made.
And yes giving up the Xbox userbase is not such a big deal , if it helps the franchise become even half as big as Dota or LoL on PC.
krypt0nian
Banned
And yet it's true. SFV alone assures that. Especially with the now united community.
Just like every update for every 95% of games ever.
I can't superman... there is already 12 million of them!!
Huh?
Guilty Gear Xrd, Mortal Kombat X, Tekken 7 , Uniel, Persona 2 etc. released just recently.
And upcoming we have Street Fighter V, King of Fighters XIV, Yagatarasu etc.
Another Soul Calibur, Samurai Shodown and Rival Schools seem to be a possibility as well.
The genre is doing fine.
Shadoken
Member
Joke post?
Do you really believe Capcom expected SSF4,AE to outsell SF4? These are updates and DLC. Its like saying GTA6 wont come out because GTA5 Remaster didn't outsell the original GTA5.
SF5 isnt exactly a risky venture. It might not have been made with the same budget without Sonys help. But it was going to be made regardless.