You'll probably be more than fine with an i3.How's the budget CPU department these days? I'm building a PC for my dad soonish and I need a sub 150 euro CPU. I'm currently looking at the i3-4150 but I have no clue what the price/performance ratios are like between AMD and Intel CPUs. It'll be a facebook and minor photo editing machine for the most part, so nothing demanding really. I just want it to be snappy and relatively future proof.
You'll probably be more than fine with an i3.
If you want it fast look into an SSD.
Hey guys! It's been a while since my last build, so I was wondering if anyone can help me out? A buddy of mine needs a new PC, he's already set his sight on the H440 for a case, so excluding the case, his budget is roughly 650 USD with something like one or two hundred bucks of leeway. Could anyone help me put together a good build? I've somewhat lost touch after two years of not building PCs.
Any and all help would be appreciated!
Edit: I totally forgot to give the build sheet in the OP a proper read. I'll do so now, and also going to check a few other sites. I also forgot to mention: He already has two HDDs, so those aren't needed either.
Aaaaand another edit; Having looked at the optimal stuff, I'm thinking something along the lines of i5 4690K, Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI, 8gigs of ram, a GTX 970 and a SeaSonic PSU. What would you guys think of that? It'd total something like 760-ish bucks, which I think he'd be fine with. Ideas or tweaks are much welcome.
First time attempting a build, would love any feedback.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $813.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-05 16:22 EDT-0400
Will be running Ubuntu and initially primarily will use this for coding (clojure and erlang) and running virtual machines in virtual box (might upgrade to 32GB of RAM eventually, I could certainly find ways to make use of it).
I do intend to put in a beefy graphics card in the fall, but for the next few months the most demanding gaming I expect is dwarf fortress, so I think I can get by with the built in Intel HD Graphics 4600 for now?
May drop the SSD to a 250GB and either live with that or add a 1TB spinning disk.
Not sure about the motherboard and power supply, are either of these overkill for my needs?
Anything else I missed?
The mobo is fine.
This XFX TS 550W is having a damn good deal with a promotion code and cash back for a total of 27$.
It is more than enough to power your current right plus a 970, 980 card.
Thanks, that's a great deal!
Any concerns I should have on dropping from the four PCI-EXPRESS 6+2-PIN connectors to one 6+2 and one 6?
Or in other words I just remembered that the Witcher 3 may be getting released on linux, which if happens might move up the purchase of a card - is there anything else i'd conceivably want to plug into one of those connectors on the power supply?
Which GTX 970 do you guys recommend? I think I'll jump on one now that the Batman/Witcher deal is live. Thanks!
Edit: Hmm, I see the EVGA SC was recommended on the last page. I think I'll go with that.
Depends on the price and where you are. If you're in the US, after rebate the newer SSC ACX2.0+ ($330 after $15 rebate) costs the same as the old SC ACX2.0 ($330 outright) so if you don't mind the rebate, the SSC is a better buy.
I'm buying a new processor (i5 4690, not K) and need a motherboard with a 1150 socket.
Is there anything wrong with a "MSI B85M-E45"?
It's in stock at a local shop were I have an expiring gift coupon so if there aren't any major problems I'd buy that. Not looking to overclock the i5.
The 4790K doesn't work with X99 motherboards or DDR4 RAM. If you want X99 and DDR4 RAM, you'll need to buy the i7 5820K instead. If you want to stick with the i7 4790K, that means you need a Z97 motherboard and DDR3 RAM instead.
Usually the more expensive motherboards have additional features or gimmicks that aren't really necessary nor add to performance or quality. Extra ports, software, certain color schemes and looks, things like that. Midrange motherboards are more than good enough for moderate overclocking.
What kind of a budget do you have, and are you just looking for a list of parts without the graphics card?
AFAIK, not really. Not for gaming anyway. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/...-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/8My budget is ~$3k with monitor but I can go higher.
Dont's:
I don't want a Titan X
I don't want the highest end CPU but will take one if its necessary for DDR4
Do's:
Want DDR4 if its a good improvement over DDR3, and I assume it is.
Want a Gsync monitor, preferably over 1080p.
Want to future proof where possible.
I specced out a computer for $2300 without monitor thus far, but with your comments about 4790k not working with DDR4, I'll need to reconsider some parts.
Any recommendations?
AFAIK, not really. Not for gaming anyway.
AFAIK, not really. Not for gaming anyway. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/...-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/8
Do you reckon the 4150 will be overkill? I don't really want my dad to break the bank on performance he won't need anyway. How's the G3258?
And yes, I will definitely get him an SSD.
I only have a prebuilt PC like the one's you find at a Walmart or Best buy, there's no way to upgrade it right ?
Cross posting from the Alienware Alpha thread:
I'm not entirely happy with the 5400rpm hard disc, which I've heard folks complain about in the past (100% disk usage when installing The Old Republic, etc)
I'm looking at either a 7200rpm 1TB SSHD or a 256GB SSD. These options are $100ish. That's my budget. If I could afford it if get a 500GB SSD and be done with it.
Thoughts, comments? I'm concerned about the 256 only because at the sizes of many games that's 7-8 games installed at a time tops and I like to skip back and forth.
I only have a prebuilt PC like the one's you find at a Walmart or Best buy, there's no way to upgrade it right ?
Cross posting from the Alienware Alpha thread:
I'm not entirely happy with the 5400rpm hard disc, which I've heard folks complain about in the past (100% disk usage when installing The Old Republic, etc)
I'm looking at either a 7200rpm 1TB SSHD or a 256GB SSD. These options are $100ish. That's my budget. If I could afford it if get a 500GB SSD and be done with it.
Thoughts, comments? I'm concerned about the 256 only because at the sizes of many games that's 7-8 games installed at a time tops and I like to skip back and forth.
So i just upgraded to a GTX 970, and despite that, i still can't get a stable 60 FPS with WoW on Ultra, even on freaking old instances such as Zulgurub(where it dips to 35-40 fps in some parts)
Is it really just my CPU(AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 955, 3.2ghz) that's hurting me? Should I fear for how Witcher 3 will perform?
WoW can be very demanding. What are your graphical settings?
Cross posting from the Alienware Alpha thread:
I'm not entirely happy with the 5400rpm hard disc, which I've heard folks complain about in the past (100% disk usage when installing The Old Republic, etc)
I'm looking at either a 7200rpm 1TB SSHD or a 256GB SSD. These options are $100ish. That's my budget. If I could afford it if get a 500GB SSD and be done with it.
Thoughts, comments? I'm concerned about the 256 only because at the sizes of many games that's 7-8 games installed at a time tops and I like to skip back and forth.
So i just upgraded to a GTX 970, and despite that, i still can't get a stable 60 FPS with WoW on Ultra, even on freaking old instances such as Zulgurub(where it dips to 35-40 fps in some parts)
Is it really just my CPU(AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 955, 3.2ghz) that's hurting me? Should I fear for how Witcher 3 will perform?
Like i said, i tried everything at maximum settings(ultra to high, depending on the setting). I tried lowering some stuff from Ultra to High, but there was little changes in performance. This isn't even while raiding with 24 other people.
What's a good, but not too expensive, AMD CPU then? I really don't feel like buying another motherboard for an Intel CPU (not to mention another CPU fan), on top of needing to reinstall Windows. The GTX 970 was already expensive enough.
What Motherboard do you have?
Problem is, even the Core i3 can match top AMD CPUs. Maybe WOW can take advantage of extra cores though.
You can see the 8 core AMD beaten by a 4 core i5 here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-15.html
So i just upgraded to a GTX 970, and despite that, i still can't get a stable 60 FPS with WoW on Ultra, even on freaking old instances such as Zulgurub(where it dips to 35-40 fps in some parts)
Is it really just my CPU(AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 955, 3.2ghz) that's hurting me? Should I fear for how Witcher 3 will perform?
Depends on the price and where you are. If you're in the US, after rebate the newer SSC ACX2.0+ ($330 after $15 rebate) costs the same as the old SC ACX2.0 ($330 outright) so if you don't mind the rebate, the SSC is a better buy.
It's an Asus M5A97.
Are AMD CPUs that bad? =/ Damn it... That's another 400$ CAN down the toilet if I need to change both my motherboard and get a decent CPU. Not to mention another CPU fan.
It's an Asus M5A97.
Are AMD CPUs that bad? =/ Damn it... That's another 400$ CAN down the toilet if I need to change both my motherboard and get a decent CPU. Not to mention another CPU fan.
You likely don't need to spend that much but that depends on your budget and upgrading to fx series probably wouldn't improve things that much sadly and with mmos u will still have those drops more because the per core performance not being that great compared to Intel CPUs. What CPU cooler do u have as u may not need to replace that but need different mounting hardware.
anandtech forum, [H]ard forums, eBay (shit like you said), here.Maybe a little off topic. But does anyone know of a site that just buys computer parts? I don't really like using eBay for something like this, because it seems really easy to get scammed, and I rarely see computer parts sell in the buy/sell/trade thread.
I'm 99% sure i have this fan(looks very similar at least):
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
Can you buy the mounting hardware separatly?
What's the best intel CPU you can buy without spending too much(like below 250$ CAN)?
Edit : Just saw the above post. Will these perform good enough though? I was thinking more of an i5 in the 4000k range.
Get 16GB of RAM.Okay, GAF, I'm going to build a new PC for Batman and the Witcher 3. I've been a console gamer for a really long time, but I had a great PC for BF3 (that my twin brother took with him to California), and I want to run games at glorious 1080p/60fps on high to ultra settings.
[Basic Desktop Questions]
My Current Specs: A PS4. I'm starting from scratch, here.
Budget: $1200-1800 + United States of America - I'd prefer it on the low side, but the higher end is there in case you expert folks recommend that I get better/more expensive parts than I have already selected.
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Gaming - 5, Emulation (PS2/Wii) - 2, Streaming games in HD - 2, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback) - 4.
Monitor Resolution: I mostly plan to play at 1080p for now, but my display is a 4k TV with a 60hz HDMI input (only 1 of 5 works for this). It's a Vizio M70C3. I'd love to play games in glorious 4k if it's at all feasible, but i'm going to need you good people to dash those hopes. As it stands, 60fps is the most I need.
SPECIFIC games or applications that I MUST be able to run well: The new Batman, Witcher 3, basically everything out to date. A solid 30fps is acceptable, but I'm shooting for a solid (rare drops are okay) 60fps. It'd be nice to be able to run the game with all of the PhysX bells and whistles, but it's not a dealbreaker if I have to turn some of the more intensive simulations down. Supersampling isn't a must, and I don't know what CUDA is, but golly does it sound nice!
No parts will be reused, as I'm starting from scratch.
I plan to build it in the upcoming weeks, basically before the end of this month.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably, I'm going for a large case that should have plenty of air flow.
Here's a build that I've been toying around with on PC Part Picker. I have 2 GTX 970s on the list, but I'm not really dead set on buying 2 right away. I don't know the difference between the various motherboards or CPU coolers, so I picked what was highly rated for a decent price. Suggestions and comments are absolutely appreciated. I'm not dead set on the case that I picked there; I just want a case with good air flow that doesn't look like a 13-year-old's wet dream. It needs to be subdued to fit in with my media center--that means no flashing neons or lightshows.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($69.75 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB 100 Million Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB 100 Million Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($39.00 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1515.30
Is 8GB enough RAM? Would 2 4GB sticks be better? Is that MOBO any good? Etc., etc.
Hyper 212 comes with mounting hardware for Intel socket 115x CPUs.
Yes even i5 2500k is good, just check the link in my last post. The 3xxx chips are 5-10% faster than 2xxx chips. The 4xxx chips are 5-10% faster than 3xxx chips. But all have enough power for a GTX 970. An i7 2600K ~4.3Ghz overclocked will beat a stock i7 4790K 4Ghz.
Email coolermaster support. They'll probably charge you like 5 for itSadly, I had this CPU fan for years, I don't think i have the other mounting hardware for intel cpus with me anymore.Can I still buy this kind of stuff separtely somewhere?
Sadly, I had this CPU fan for years, I don't think i have the other mounting hardware for intel cpus with me anymore.Can I still buy this kind of stuff separtely somewhere?