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[kvk1]

 

[poppedcollar69]

 

[Hylian7]

I've been randoming a lot more lately. I sort of took the suggestion of playing support, but just randoming because honestly I don't want to just straight up spam support, more like just randoming (as first pick) and not repicking it generally unless it's Meepo, as I just don't feel confident enough to play in ranked.

Even then though, I'm just still getting nothing but hard games and I just don't win very many of them. I'm trying to focus more on strategy, my own play, etc, but I don't know what I'm missing here.

For example, in this game, it felt like we were just screwed from the start. The other team was able to 5-man by ten minutes and it didn't matter what we did, how Lycan pushed, they could just roll over us with no problem. It's a really frustrating thing to go against, I'm not blaming the game for the loss, I'm just saying it's a very difficult thing to face and I don't quite know what we could have done to stop it. Lycan was splitpushing and it didn't really do anything as they just took rax instead.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1464070782

Dota is really frustrating.

 

[Mohasus]

i'm not an invoker player, but i think that was a quas wex game

 

[kvk1]

rofl the upheaval

 

[Hylian7]

i'm not an invoker player, but i think that was a quas wex game

In hindsight, yeah, probably was, but I was forced to offlane because Ember wanted mid, so I needed to go catchup mode.

 

[Quesa]

In hindsight, yeah, probably was, but I was forced to offlane because Ember wanted mid, so I needed to go catchup mode.

Lycan and ember could have picked up the slack on carry front. Probably didn't to make the team even more greedy by playing the third core. Q/W lets you fight earlier, especially without midas. But looking at damage it seems you still realized that at some point and contributed to fights.

 

[kvk1]

Zai is playing Tinker.

 

[Kade]

Zai

 

[Mohasus]

it's incredible how luo went from an average player to a great one when he switched roles and the opposite thing happened with zai

 

[Artanisix]

UPHEAVAL

 

[Hung_real]

that slow screwed axe so hard

 

[Kade]

ZAI IS BACK

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Luo you had like 5 seconds to react why are you standing next to your spiderlings

 

[aeolist]

rtz playing like ee-sama lately

 

[shira]

I think rtz picked pugna for the immortal

 

[kvk1]

this is mental

 

[Quesa]

now that was a tombstone

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

That was a 3000 range fight

Brood could've gotten rax though

HOLY SHIT Ferrari with the Brew split bait saving his life and saving ult

 

[poppedcollar69]

HOLY SHIT faking the split mah god

 

[Hylian7]

Lycan and ember could have picked up the slack on carry front. Probably didn't to make the team even more greedy by playing the third core. Q/W lets you fight earlier, especially without midas. But looking at damage it seems you still realized that at some point and contributed to fights.

Yeah, our Necro also ancient jungled, which I'm not a fan of.

 

[Saprol]

Watching them try to walk through Upheaval.

 

[shira]

ez bugattis RT

AI

 

[Technosteve]

c9 every where

 

[Hung_real]

this is pretty over tbh

 

[inkls]

"pandas and spiders working together to bring down skeletons and bambi" -LD 2015

 

[kvk1]

well holy crap

 

[Zeth]

Holy shit.

 

[Saprol]

I didn't know ward just keeps dinging you if you have a toggle spell like that.

 

[Kade]

What in the world

 

[Emerson]

This game proving that deathball isn't nearly as strong currently as people complain.

 

[bbd23]

 

[KingKong]

This game proving that deathball isn't nearly as strong currently as people complain.

not when you telegraph it like that. whos drafting for Secret, Puppey again?

 

[SilentRacoon]

LMAO SO BAD

This game proving that deathball isn't nearly as strong currently as people complain.

It certainly is a problem in solo pubs when the team lacks communication, otherwise you can easily deal with them and use it against them.

 

[G-Unit]

2x REKT

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Fighting after Rosh has just been taken stays extremely stupid unless you get a way better initiation than what Secret got.

iG really taking advantage of the fact that Secret has only one disable. Witch Doctor and Warlock destroying them.

 

[shira]

Critmama dominating on mama's day

 

[poppedcollar69]

just wanna say i was repping upheaval down here in poo poo tier since 2013

 

[Emerson]

not when you telegraph it like that. whos drafting for Secret, Puppey again?

At the time of TI4 deathball was independently strong regardless of whether the draft was obvious or not.

 

[Hung_real]

I need to main brood

 

[SteveWinwood]

just wanna say i was repping upheaval down here in poo poo tier since 2013

upheavel has been op since forever

its the rod of atos of spells

 

[Kalnos]

warlock and witch doctor have just had great positioning

 

[evlcookie]

Ags pugna, Finally.

Ez game now boys.

 

[Hylian7]

upheavel has been op since forever

its the rod of atos of spells

Rewind to like two years ago and everyone said it was useless.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Rewind to like two years ago and everyone said it was useless.

i can guarantee you that you can find posts of mine from 2013 saying upheaval is broken good

heres a page from the ot in 2013 (100 ppp) http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511896&page=30 where everyone is talking about how awesome upheaval is

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Rewind to like two years ago and everyone said it was useless.

It got buffed a lot since then, I don't agree that it was always good.

Burning building QoP like a hard carry is hilarious.

 

[Satch]

upheaval is so good until ursa gets his bkb and slaps you to death while youre standing still channeling it

 

[kvk1]

Mother fights.

 

[shira]

secREKT

 

[Technosteve]

viper is a real shit carry