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[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

As a low-res 2D project? several small KS projects already are doing this at less cost. Hell IGA created the game you quoted with a team of 10 people or so...

But those guys were the best of the best, an elite tier group. Low res is not indicative of how much work is required. It doesn't mean it's easier.

 

[Crocodile]

Look at the costumes. It looks like the same overdesigned crap you see in most JRPGs. If you want to make it look gothic, then at least make it more subdued.

The costumes would be just as complex if Kojima did the art. The only real complaint I can levy might be the rose tattoos look a bit weird but otherwise these designs are just as Castlevania-esque as most other designs in the series (at least since SOTN).

 

[Night Hunter]

Am I the only one who likes the fact, that it's 2,5D? 2D is fucking expensive and severly limits developers on a budget, I think people don't get that.

 

[BatDan]

This game looked fine in 2.5D, and Igarashi worked on it.

 

[ScHlAuChi]

This better not end up like the terrible MN9....

 

[Kasper]

Backed at $100.

2.5D doesn't need to be a bad thing. Hopefully it'll be more Guilty Gear Xrd in style rather than Mighty No. 9. I choose to stay positive, and believe that IGA will deliver.

 

[HItman84]

at this rate she may successfully fund by 3:30 PM est.

 

[PumpkinSpice]

This game looked fine in 2.5D, and Igarashi worked on it.

Looks so much worse than the original.

 

[orioto]

Everyone acting like 2.5d can't look nice.

I personally don't say that. But it's hard and expensive to make it look good, and especially in par with what was Castlevania. So there is a reason to be worried.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

I have yet to see a 2.5D game as beautiful as the best 2D games in the history of gaming.

And then there are games like Tropical Freeze that are among the best looking platformers, imo.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

where do you put all the previous Igavanias?

In terms of artstyle and backgrounds? at the top.

 

[Tain]

I have yet to see a 2.5D game as beautiful as the best 2D games in the history of gaming.

Whatever budget this game winds up with will probably be too low to compete on a pixel art level with the best-looking 2D games. They'll get the best results for their budget with polygons.

 

[A-V-B]

I have yet to see a 2.5D game as beautiful as the best 2D games in the history of gaming.

Heck, look at Half-Genie Hero. That's a really good looking Kickstarter game.

 

[Neff]

The exact moment he seduced a community of gamers' credit cards into putting out, myself included.

 

[MissCauthon]

I am so thrilled about this but NOT SO MUCH about the characters in the game.... Might not be getting this, the characters look like something straight out of sailor moon
The guy with the silver hair and part flower mask, in black cap, NO just .. no lol.

I know i'm gona get drilled by yall in here for saying that but i mean cmon!

 

[Frumix]

This game looked fine in 2.5D, and Igarashi worked on it.

Ehhh. Fine is right, but instead of being gothic-looking it was just washed out instead (original game was very colorful). Character animations were incredibly stiff. Great game, but 2.5D is not its strongest point.

 

[hitsugi]

This game looked fine in 2.5D, and Igarashi worked on it.

Maybe not the best example..

 

[Tom_Cody]

Can you upgrade tiers later? I know I at least want to go in for the $100 tier, but I might want to go all the way up to $300 for the signed box.

Anyone?

 

[Leafhopper]

Am I the only one who likes the fact, that it's 2,5D? 2D is fucking expensive and severly limits developers on a budget, I think people don't get that.

When Blazblue Calamity Trigger was announced a few people said it was a "Cheap game" because it didn't use 3D models.

This shit doesn't surprise me anymore.

 

[John Rabbit]

In terms of artstyle and backgrounds? at the top.

so you're putting 2.5D games at the top of your "best looking 2D games" list? because those games are 2.5D.

 

[KingJ2002]

"WHAT ABOUT NINTENDO?

Our budget left us with two options: Build the biggest, most beautiful game we can, or make sure it runs everywhere from the start. As things stand today, we can't afford to create the two separate versions of this game that would be necessary to make it run on every console. That said, we've heard legends about a remarkable treasure hidden in the castle basement..."

What is that last part about

If it's being built on Unreal Engine... i don't think a Wii U version is possible.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Whatever budget this game winds up with will probably be too low to compete on a pixel art level with the best-looking 2D games. They'll get the best results for their budget with polygons.

Looking what IC achieved with MN9 I disagree.

so you're putting 2.5D games at the top of your "best looking 2D games" list? because those games are 2.5D.

Because they had a couple of 3D elements in the 2% of the backgrounds dosn't mean they are 2.5D.

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Since I don't follow MN9: Has everybody turned on it? What's so bad about it? Just the visuals?

Anyone?

Worst case scenario: You have to cancel the 100$ tier and pledge again for the 300$ one. I'm pretty sure there is an upgrade option though, but I can guarantee it

 

[A-V-B]

This game looked fine in 2.5D, and Igarashi worked on it.

Yeah, I played that too.

It was kind of devoid of character.

 

[Instro]

Somehow I seriously doubt that a Metroidvania with a huge map done on a shoestring budget is going to look as nice as Xrd (a 1 vs 1 fighting game with small set stages).

Well yes, I didn't say it would.

 

[ShogunDarius]

Yeah it is a bit silly.


Those are not screenshots. It's concept art.

yeah, my bad, put screenshots when I should have put concept art, I stand by what I said though

 

[TonberrysKnife]

Repost from the closed double thread:

I certainly like my games to look good, but to be quite honest, when I'm playing an Igavania/Metroidvania game, the dead last thing I care about is the art style. Gameplay/music/world/systems are all way more important to me.

I still play SOTN and the GBA titles to this day. Like once a year.

If you wanted a new Igavania and don't back this, I will come to your house and beat you with a whip.

Correction: Beat you with the Vampire Killer.

 

[theofficefan99]

I'm sure everyone knows 2.5D can look nice like in GG Xrd, but after MN9 most people can't really look at this in the optimistic way cause we've seen this before.
I wish I could trust IGA more.

MN9 looks great...????

 

[Xpliskin]

For everyone doubting 2.5D:




Here's a GDC talk by the Technical Artist at arc system work behind the guilty gear breakthrough:

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1022031/GuiltyGearXrd-s-Art-Style-The



It's a religious text at work for one of the projects, to tell you the truth.


Even them, who are primarily 2D artist, unanimously decided that this is the future of 2D gaming.

 

[ezekial45]

I have yet to see a 2.5D game as beautiful as the best 2D games in the history of gaming.

Let's be real here.

While the Iga-vania titles had good sprite work, they recycled so much of that work over the course 15 years worth of Castlevania titles. They weren't perfect, and they showed their age significantly.

2D sprite/art work takes so much time and resources to produce, which explains why they reused so much of them.

 

[ohyouagain]

Backed this up.
Can't turn my back on Iga.

 

[epmode]

2.5 is fine. <3 Ikaruga <3

 

[Gbraga]

I'm not a fan of her tattoos either. Otherwise, her design is great imo.

 

[Archaix]

looking at the few screens we have i'd say they are blind

And this is why we will never see an end to deceptive pre-release media.

 

[Wishmaster92]

almost 170k now......damn

 

[Maedhros]

It seems they're hinting at 1,000,000+ for Nintendo console support. I'm sure they'll hit it but I can't donate without that. Really odd to say that considering the money they're pissing away on a backer-only retail version.

Did you know that you can remove your pledge anytime?

 

[Toxi]

looking at the few screens we have i'd say they are blind

Uh, those are concept art.

 

[Shinriji]

If it's being built on Unreal Engine... i don't think a Wii U version is possible.

Unreal Engine 4 supports the Ouya.

https://www.unrealengine.com/blog/ouya-and-unreal-engine

WiiU and Vita should be possible.

 

[cireza]

Awesome concept art !!!

Inti Creates ???

2.5D ??? : |

Unreal Engine ??? : /

Come on, we have seen how Mighty Nine ended, and this is exactly the same conditions.

Not going to back this. Will buy if it eventually looks good when released.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Backed. Gaming needs more Iga.

 

[Heel]

Have you looked at the rest of that?
These are just fun little goals for spreading the word. Nothing really substantial.

Edit: Can't link the image, bleh. Just scroll down a little further and it shows what the "achievements" will unlock.

Market our game to unlock new stretch goals!

 

[Dog Problems]

Backed it at the $28 tier but I'll probably go higher. I'd love if 2 Player Productions could make a documentary for this like they did with Double Fine.

 

[OnPoint]

2.5D doesn't mean the game will look like garbage.

It can even look 2D.

Sigh.

 

[Skidd]

Looking at the concept art and I instantly though of Vanillaware. Would have seemed a much more logical/fitting choice for development.

 

[Easy_D]

I've turned a complete 180 on the 2D/2.5D stuff. 2.5D will look soooooooooooooooooooo much better in higher resolutions than 2D ever could. It's future proofing your game essentially, if they say they're gonna use UE4 and some special shaders to make it look as good as possible, I believe them. I doubt IGA would let it turn out looking like doodoo.

Looking at the concept art and I instantly though of Vanillaware. Would have seemed a much more logical/fitting choice.

It's the hud right? It screams Vanillaware to me

 

[rjc571]

Sorry, I learned my lesson with the Mighty No 9 kickstarter and I'm not going to back this until I see something more substantial than "Iga's back! Please fund his mystery game!".

 

[EVH]

The costumes would be just as complex if Kojima did the art. The only real complaint I can levy might be the rose tattoos look a bit weird but otherwise these designs are just as Castlevania-esque as most other designs in the series (at least since SOTN).

Kojima designed the Aria of Sorrow characters and they were not loaded with Sailor Moon makeup.

In SOTN they did it because of the gothic theme and still the art direction made it elegant and classy. This looks ugly.

Someone talked aboyt Dust an Elysian tale. Hope this is not like that at all. What a boring and annoying game.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Unreal Engine 4 supports the Ouya.

https://www.unrealengine.com/blog/ouya-and-unreal-engine

WiiU and Vita should be possible.

Is possible, but there's no official support for them.

 

[Dreamwriter]

Folks complaining about 2.5d, check out this video - this game is 2.5d, but it sure looks to me like a 2D cartoon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySPZKqIgVnU

2.5d doesn't necessarily mean "it looks like crappy 3D"

 

[HItman84]

Anyone?

You can always change pledge tiers while the campaign is happening.
Weather or not you can do that once it's concluded is dependent on weather they have a pledge manager up after.