Oh I imagine Valdis Story was made on a tiny fraction of what this has already earned, let alone what it's going to end at.
EDIT: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/460275866/valdis-story-abyssal-city/video_share
Yea 50k.
Koji Igarashi Kickstarts Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (2.5D, backdash, 2018)
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Oh I imagine Valdis Story was made on a tiny fraction of what this has already earned, let alone what it's going to end at.
EDIT: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/460275866/valdis-story-abyssal-city/video_share
Yea 50k.
That's just kickstarter 101. I'm happy they are doing it well, even though I'll not partake in any of the shenanigans. More budget = better game.
It's a good thing. They are making one game, on UE4, for high-end platforms that can run it well. Rather than spreading themselves too thin.The lack of handheld versions, be it Vita or n3DS, have deflated most of my hype
Platform stretch goals will actually erode my confidence a bit.
FrontalMonk
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Relaxed Muscle
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For a japanese based KS? Except MN9, I don't think there was one that fast.
GhostTrick
Banned
I'm still not ready to back this. They should show something concrete at least.
Probably something similar to what's always been the case with fighting games: because they're small arenas with just two, maybe four characters they can push visuals way further than stuff like platformers or action games, never mind full on open world titles.
Though part of the issue is that specific rendering style. I guess fewer "frames" and likely lower detail models will help there though.
Kudo
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Just said on Twitch that there's going to be a backer survey very early on to try and get the 2.5d style just right for the backers. Name dropping GGX like crazy.
This is very pleasing to hear. Can't wait to back my Limited Ed.
I know this game could end up looking really amazing with UE4 and if they can nail the 2.5D just right it's definitely going to be a looker.
I'm in, though I need to consider if I'm crazy enough to go up a tier and get that art book as well.
As for MN9...well, that's what can happen when you back something on Kickstarter. You just have to believe the people making the game are dedicated to what they are providing to backers and future customers. In this case, I think it'll turn out just fine.
As for MN9...well, that's what can happen when you back something on Kickstarter. You just have to believe the people making the game are dedicated to what they are providing to backers and future customers. In this case, I think it'll turn out just fine.
It is kind of ridiculous. Stretch goals in their original form are somewhat "scummy" because it's like a big combination of FOMO, money-as-"xp", and "team effort" (as you say). The comic/vine/tweet/comic/etc. thing is something that should be organic but of course marketers are always looking for new ways to exploit. It's slightly depressing that they feel the need to incentivize these things and "lock" stuff behind it.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I'm in.
Systemwarrior
Member
Backed $100! I've been waiting for this... And I want that Hayter!
Vire
Member
Hmm... I love Castlevania but I'm really not feeling the art style at all in the concept art. Plus, there is a shockingly little amount to go on here, especially when compared to the full video demo that Yooka Laylee put out.
Sorry Iga, gonna have to pass for now. Maybe they'll update the kickstarter with more content later?
Sorry Iga, gonna have to pass for now. Maybe they'll update the kickstarter with more content later?
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Shovel Knight got $311k from Kickstarter, they used their own money as well, and they were basically broke & racking up debt for about a half year after the KS funds ran out and before they finished up.
Because he has a fantastic and iconic voice.
JohnSpartanLee
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Symphony of the Night
=> Ritual of the Night
Bloodborne => Bloodstained
Iga absolutely shameless.
=> Ritual of the Night
Bloodborne => Bloodstained
Iga absolutely shameless.
Well UE4 actually has full 2D support, kind of surprised they didn't use that actually.
They asked for 75k and got about 310k. However that game was clearly aiming for NES style graphics. If this game were to be full 2d, I think everybody would be expecting 16 bit or higher which would obviously be more expensive.
Just said on Twitch that there's going to be a backer survey very early on to try and get the 2.5d style just right for the backers. Name dropping GGX like crazy.
Really, really happy with this. They also explain why there isn't prototype shown at the moment. Sounds like Iga has had a really rough time recently
The lack of handheld versions, be it Vita or n3DS, have deflated most of my hype
I'm just glad that we finally get play one of these on a proper freaking screen finally. It's been 18 years since we were last able to.
dancrane212
Member
I should have been more specific but I found that Drac X did a good job translating the Castlevania style to 3D. The game sure wasn't a technical wonder but I think artistically it's a good reference on how Bloodstained could work.
Nocturnowl
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So you're saying that instead of Igavania this is more like Wrestlevania?
Stone Ocean
Member
And that's for a retro looking game, imagine how much a super detailed 2D game like a Castlevania would cost without the option to reuse assets from a 10 year old game.
RobFox64tm
Member
No Wii U version, no sale. Can't afford to get a good PC, PS4 or XBone right now, and it'll probably be that way for a while.
OricWindstar
Member
Damn, that Cursed Orphan track is fucking awesome!
"____ of the night" jumped out at me right away, but not so much for bloodstained. I don't think that was the goal there.
Just said on Twitch that there's going to be a backer survey very early on to try and get the 2.5d style just right for the backers. Name dropping GGX like crazy.
And there goes any and all of my woes of it being 3D, straight out the window. It's gonna look super hot isn't it?
Yep, so many layers of awesome.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
The $300 dollar tier is very tempting
I need to think about this
I need to think about this
Lemon King
Neo Member
New Igavania has me so manic right now. You have no idea.
I love this image macro so much.
Stone Ocean
Member
This won't be coming out until 2017
D
Deleted member 47027
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Well, we all have different...wants, I suppose.
Terrifying how Wrestlevania is just one letter away from The Grandaddy Of Them All!
I will say it's interesting how Iga has managed to tie his own buyers into the marketing as heavily as he did.
Does anyone know if his company is good at managing money? All I ever hear of with most KS projects is people ran out of money.
The guy on the rack was actually Ben Judd. It's mentioned in the credits of the video.
origamipirate
Member
I was super happy with getting a new Igavania every year or two in the GBA/DS years... it's been unpleasant to no longer have new ones since then. I hope this is the start of a new era of proliferation for Igavanias.
... in for $100. I'll upgrade if it turns out they struggle to reach a stretch goal or something.
... in for $100. I'll upgrade if it turns out they struggle to reach a stretch goal or something.
Didn't know all that extra info. Thanks for the info and that makes me extra happy Shovel Knight has been a success.
About GGXrd, i see two problems:
_I'm pretty sure it went through tones and tones of R&D to find the way to do that, it's not gonna be that easy.
_It's great for an anime look. It's not really organic. Now, if that game is meant to look as the animeish Castlevania on DS, why not. But again it would be a sad error cause now that you make your game for fans and with their money, you don't have to make your game so it's compatible with modern markets (and by that i mean having cosplay compatible characters with fancy outfits and pretty magics with flowers in it, which is what you see in that concept art)
_I'm pretty sure it went through tones and tones of R&D to find the way to do that, it's not gonna be that easy.
_It's great for an anime look. It's not really organic. Now, if that game is meant to look as the animeish Castlevania on DS, why not. But again it would be a sad error cause now that you make your game for fans and with their money, you don't have to make your game so it's compatible with modern markets (and by that i mean having cosplay compatible characters with fancy outfits and pretty magics with flowers in it, which is what you see in that concept art)
Spoony Bob
Member
I'm curious on this as well. Back in MGS1 & 2, his voice work as snake was absolutely iconic (though it got really grating in 3 and 4 personally), but I don't even know what he's capable of as a voice actor past sounding like the Marlboro Man that took a nightstick to the throat.
Necromanti
Member
I think the good thing with Kickstarter is that you can reach out to the most dedicated fans and get more funding than you would have otherwise. Honestly, I can understand the perspective of publishers choosing a low risk approach when development costs have increased so much and a relatively large number of sales might not just cut it today. I feel like this is the only way a game like this and Yooka-Laylee can exist in this day and age.
cpp_is_king
Member
What the fuck is going on with this Kickstarter? I look at it 20 minutes ago and it was at $172k, now it's at $242k? Is this normal? How did it make $70k in 20 minutes?
Pyrrhus
Member
Well, here we have it. I will admit, I am disappointed to learn it's 2.5D but I understand that modern resolutions and budgets tend to make it difficult to do otherwise. Inticreates handling dev duties after the bland look MN9 ultimately came to embody is likewise something that gives me pause.
Much worse is the lack of Ayami Kojima. This art they have instead is doing nothing for me. A generic, big titted anime girl in a gothic lolita fetish costume is not what I wanted. The artist's drafting style is too obviously generic anime rather than influenced by classical Western composition and the shading style is digital painting trying to look like water colors rather than going for the dark and somber oil painting look that made Symphony and its progeny feel so regal and ancient. These new characters look like they belong in a third rate modern jRPG rather than the Baroque and Medieval figures like Alucard and Simon everyone remembers best.
All that said, I'm still on board even if my enthusiasm is dented. At least it doesn't appear to be Freemium or F2P focused. And if nothing else, it's absolutely great to have Iga back in the saddle. It's been far too long.
Much worse is the lack of Ayami Kojima. This art they have instead is doing nothing for me. A generic, big titted anime girl in a gothic lolita fetish costume is not what I wanted. The artist's drafting style is too obviously generic anime rather than influenced by classical Western composition and the shading style is digital painting trying to look like water colors rather than going for the dark and somber oil painting look that made Symphony and its progeny feel so regal and ancient. These new characters look like they belong in a third rate modern jRPG rather than the Baroque and Medieval figures like Alucard and Simon everyone remembers best.
All that said, I'm still on board even if my enthusiasm is dented. At least it doesn't appear to be Freemium or F2P focused. And if nothing else, it's absolutely great to have Iga back in the saddle. It's been far too long.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Please do.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
I'm in for $150. I want that artbook.
Frankensteiner
Banned
Funded on my end. I really could have wasted too much money so thank good the big backer stuff is sold out.