Tom Brady suspended for 4 games; Patriots lose first-round draft pick; fined $1 mil

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Ape said:
Oh, i got you.


How do you guys feel about Brady as a person? Leaves his first wife, cheats at his job, idk guys he seems sort of like a piece of shit
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He IS a piece of shit.

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Nazgul_Hunter said:
Glad to see some punishment come out of this. That said, you can't really argue with a straight face that 45-7 was due to the deflated balls
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I don't think anyone thinks that.
 
I wonder if the Pats will sign his twin brother Tim Brady. Maybe he'll be able to play during the first 4 games
 
Zen_Arcade said:
No? You're assuming that spending more money will automatically equate to quality play on the field. They could theoretically go over the salary cap and still be shit. Look at baseball, the team that spends the most money doesn't automatically dominate every year. That's why I said that you could argue that it's arbitrary and unnecessary in the first place.
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That is a fair assertion to make. I'll make a similar assertion:

The deflated footballs had no impact on the Patriots success. Brady actually played better on the road than he did at home.
 
Statement from Tom Brady's agent, Don Yee:

“The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue.”
 
Officerrob said:
The texts taken off the two guys phones was pretty damning.
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Were they for Brady though? The guy just said Brady told him he wanted them 13psi after the Jets game. And they said he wanted them to show the refs the rulebook that the balls should be between 12.5 and 13.5 which is perfectly within the rules. They weren't talking about him telling them to deflate them or wanting them below the minimum or anything.
 
LyleLanley said:
Statement from Tom Brady's agent, Don Yee:

“The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue.”
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Fucking christ.

Brady needs to shut the fuck up.

He is going to be doing way more harm than good.
 
Brady is a bad person and an even worse QB.

Those 10 yard ducks sure will come out fast and furious when T*m comes back angry from that suspension!
 
LyleLanley said:
Statement from Tom Brady's agent, Don Yee:

“The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue.”
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Beautiful. That is why the agents get paid the big bucks. I wish I could have written something like that. Need to bring my game up.
 
Ravens and Colts are the worst sports organizations. Cant beat the Pats.. so have to go whine about it. Thought this was a game for men.. not babies!
 
LyleLanley said:
What more harm could come at this point? It's in his best interest to attack the credibility of the report before any upcoming appeal.
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Because in five years time when the truth comes out and some air was let out, he's going to look like a fucking ass over making a huge deal and not owning up to it.
 
Big-E said:
Beautiful. That is why the agents get paid the big bucks. I wish I could have written something like that. Need to bring my game up.
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It should be noted that he was also Sean Peytons agent during bountygate so this probably doesn't mean shit.

TheLostBigBoss said:
Because in five years time when the truth comes out and some air was let out, he's going to look like a fucking ass over making a huge deal and not owning up to it.
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I think he probably cares more about reducing the suspension.
 
LyleLanley said:
Statement from Tom Brady's agent, Don Yee:

“The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue.”
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Fuck Jim Irsay orchestrated it! I knew it!

The real culprit:

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hom3land said:
Ravens and Colts are the worst sports organizations. Cant beat the Pats.. so have to go whine about it. Thought this was a game for men.. not babies!
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At least Ravens, they literally give no fucks about who plays for them.

Colts are owned by a drugged out millionaire, but at least he is fun to watch.
 
LyleLanley said:
Statement from Tom Brady's agent, Don Yee:

“The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue.”
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Oh man. He called out Goodell. Ray Rice proved that you can beat the shit out of your wife, but you better never do something that might embarrass the commissioner.
 
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Don Yee said:
The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue.”
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Big-E said:
Of course it is. The NFL botched this entire thing from the beginning. The whole report speaks to how incompetent the NFL is which is nothing new. Lets set up a sting against the Pats but lets forget to actually record the pre game pressures. Lets act all mad at Brady not turning in his phone when executives did not do that for Ray Rice and act all mad about it. Patriots are better off not having any first round picks as they most likely will be waste of money as that is Bill's biggest weakness.
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I think it's totally possible to hate Goodell, think the NFL punishments are totally out of whack, and still be amazed at people who think there is no reasonable evidence of the team's guilt on this particular issue.

I do think the Pats got hit harder because it made the national news. But instead of defending them because other teams cheat I just hope the NFL starts going after all the teams much more aggressively.
 
Quotient said:
That is a fair assertion to make. I'll make a similar assertion:

The deflated footballs had no impact on the Patriots success. Brady actually played better on the road than he did at home.
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If that were the case and Brady really felt that way, then he probably wouldn't have tried to cover his own tracks and would have cooperated when they asked him to. You also have no proof either way how long they've been deflating balls anyway. A lot of the reason Brady is in trouble and got suspended in the first place is because he wouldn't cooperate.

One is a case of on the field cheating and refusing to cooperate when pressed about it, the other is an off the field infraction that has already been proven in other sports to not really matter when it comes to the success of the team. You have no proof either way that deflating balls didn't help, only assumptions, but I have years of MLB World Series champs that prove my point that spending more money doesn't automatically win championships.
 
Can't wait to see what anal retentive toefuckery all the salty losers get up in arms about the next time the Pats win. I don't like or watch football but I LOVE watching pathetically obsessed football fans break down into schizophrenic tantrums over pointless garbage like this. Go watch MMA if you wanna see what real, actual cheating in sports looks like.
 
Did people even read the report? This punishment doesn't fit the findings. I think the reaction from Patriots fans is justified. The report explicitly says there was no evidence that the team or the coach were involved. A 1st, a 4th, and $1M for not granting permission to interview team employees for a 5th time seems a little over the top.

The fact that some people are focusing on the fine just shows that they don't really follow these things too closely. There's pretty much no monetary fine that the NFL could put on any club that would be more than a drop in the bucket. It's the picks and the player suspension that are the big kickers.

Opening night could be mighty interesting now.
 
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