Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else

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Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
You give me hope, brother. Modders u can do dis!

I dunno, with Creation Kit, max thing we'll get is new textures and foliage, they'll most likley make it look better than the console version but it'll not make the game look like the pre-downgrade (2013 version).
 
Maybe I remember too fondly but Witcher 1 had good mods that transformed the game, this was a while back though.

Witcher 2 modding was a non-event but I'm optimistic W3 will get more attention for being open world carrying lots of detail.

An awesome feature of PC not yet said by CDPR is if you're running 32-37fps you can cap it to 30 unlike XBO at this moment. Think about that while you delete your newegg parts list.
 

UnrealEck

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This is not about downgrade. Rather the fact that there isn't that much of an improvement for PC at Ultra. I had hoped it atleast matched the earlier official screenshot, but nope.

No point really in comparing tiny little print screens taken from a heavily compressed stream of the game in which we aren't even seeing HBAO on.
When the game comes out on PC, we'll see some proper direct comparisons.

The moderator in the twitch stream said that the footage is with the day one patch. Which confused me. Because it's not day one yet.

Edit: Unless the patch is already out. In which case we can confirm does nothing for visuals (which shouldn't be a surprise).

They're using 1.02. The launch patch was going to be 1.01, so I guess there's another patch now.
 

Chariot

Member
Yes, i'm joking, but i don't like the tone of your voice, and what do you mean by "you people"? xD
There is a group within the downgrade crowd that is very hostile and the reason why there threads got closed on the cdpr forums. There is talking about it and presenting evidence and then there is running into a thread calling cdpr liars and all who don't comply imbeciles and retards.
 

tuxfool

Banned
This is not about downgrade. Rather the fact that there isn't that much of an improvement for PC at Ultra. I had hoped it atleast matched the earlier official screenshot, but nope.

Howl do you expect to determine that from a screenshot of a twitch stream? There are a few things that you can see. Grass quality isn't one of them
 

Kandrick

GAF's Ed McMahon
Actually if you read it carefully they pretty much skirt around it in this part:



It's truly lulz worthy because it's clear what they mean is that the PC version is in fact console grade assets with some improved resolution and framerate, with hairworks thrown in.

CDPR has dug a very big hole, and at this point it would be difficult to fess up and admit the truth.

They "gave" us 60fps, we should be thankful! It's amusing how they just talk around the issue. I doubt they want to come out and admit the game was downgraded just before release.
 

wowzors

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PS4 looks great next to the pc. Little disappointed in the pc lighting but I still think it looks great. This seems like a killzone scenario with the trailers.
 

skonvolt

Member
You give me hope, brother. Modders u can do dis!

There is always

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what do i mean with this? easy i'll let them few days to fix glitch / downgrade / bug /miracle trailer, and in this time i will use my second option. FF x / x-2 not bad as secxond option....
 
Howl do you expect to determine that from a screenshot of a twitch stream? There are a few things that you can see. Grass quality isn't one of them
Dude, look at the ground. The geometry is still simplified on the PC version. The official screenshot shows more rocks. Then there is the grass right behind Vesemir (?) which has been changed to the ugly variant.

We aren't comparing textures here. Unless you are assuming that a direct-feed screenshot will somehow change the lighting and magically add more rocks on ground, and change the look of grass.
 

Yasae

Banned
Check out that lone tuft of shit grass (newer art styled grass) behind vesemir. Sticks out like a sore thumb.
'Tis awful. If there's anything I hope mods change first, it's the grass. And I don't think anyone on PC believes they couldn't make that a teensy bit better.
 
Guess nobody just really doesn't give a shit about any of this but me. Does the game look really good.. Yes... Is the game fun? Yes...thats enough for me.
 

Derp

Member
Guess I'm buying the PS4 version. That's kind of sad considering I have a 670, which SHOULD be able to push better graphical effects than a PS4...
I'm as confused as you are. My 780 Ti apparently will push Ultra 1080p without the Nvidia stuff (which is basically the PS4 version but at something closer to 60fps). I thought my GPU was... Well... More powerful than that. Apparently not! :)
 

tuxfool

Banned
Dude, look at the ground. The geometry is still simplified on the PC version. The official screenshot shows more rocks. Then there is the grass right behind Vesemir (?) which has been changed to the ugly variant.

We aren't comparing textures here. Unless you are assuming that a direct-feed screenshot will somehow change the lighting and magically add more rocks on ground, and change the look of grass.

No, you're right, there are more rocks, the grass is sort of weird as the shadow positions are very different.
 

artsi

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Guess nobody just really doesn't give a shit about any of this but me. Does the game look really good.. Yes... Is the game fun? Yes...thats enough for me.

No worries, this thread is full of people like me who are going to play the shit out of this game regardless of the downgrade.

It's just sad that the game doesn't look as good as it could to accompany the great gameplay.
 
I've got a 770 and buying the PC version I thought I'd be able to push a higher gfx fidelity but with 30fps (I use my tv and ps4 controller) and now I should of just bought the bloody ps4 version.

I almost went out and bought a 970 last week too. Kinda glad I didn't bother tbf!
 

Chariot

Member
It pushes more frames per second. Just a teensy wee detail you might consider.
We get better resolution, framerate, Nvidia exclusive effects, mod support, apparently at least slightly wider draw distance, but other than that what else?

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I am joking, don't jump me
 

Valnen

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It pushes more frames per second. Just a teensy wee detail you might consider.

Probably not a solid 60 FPS, so I'd probably just lock it down to 30 anyway. Just like PS4 will most likely be.

Why wouldn't they? Resolution aside (because the PC is horribly compressed Twitch stuff) it's a cutscene. What exactly do you expect to see in the PC version there that couldn't be done on PS4?

I don't expect COMPLETE console parity from a PC developer. I was hoping at least the lighting would be better or something. Nope!
 
Why wouldn't they? Resolution aside (because the PC is horribly compressed Twitch stuff) it's a cutscene. What exactly do you expect to see in the PC version there that couldn't be done on PS4?

Well clearly some rocks on the ground and decent looking grass are beyond the capabilities of the PS4.
 

Vamphuntr

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Why wouldn't they? Resolution aside (because the PC is horribly compressed Twitch stuff) it's a cutscene. What exactly do you expect to see in the PC version there that couldn't be done on PS4?

A lot actually. Especially coming from a PC dev like CDPR. They could do a lot more with the lighting, shadows and texture considering the GPU and CPU in the PS4 aren't great.
 

UnrealEck

Member
I'm assuming the only answer you'd accept is "i pulled it from my ass"? Look at the PS4 - PC comparison. I know it's hard to accept but there's barely any difference.

I was thinking more along the lines of 'I don't actually know because I don't have a proper means of comparing yet'.
From what I saw of the stream you're using to compare doesn't even have HBAO enabled.
 
A lot actually. Especially coming from a PC dev like CDPR. They could do a lot more with the lighting, shadows and texture considering the GPU and CPU in the PS4 aren't great.

Indeed. One thing that strikes me with the game is lack of tesselation. I know bugger all about graphics but all the textures in the game look so flat.
 

H4r4kiri

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No, you're not. But that screenshot is from back in January?

I watched the german stream and I noticed it there.Apparently they have the day one Patch installed EDIT: They said they do not have it. Sorry for misinformation. The Gras looked a lot finer in that section, compression aside.
 

Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
It's the slap in the face CDPR told us to expect from PC Ultra.

yeah that was just just hilarious, CDPR could've showed us a "proper ultra" footage but nope they didn't bother. and most likely they are just buying time till the release of the game (so people blindly buy it) then they will ignore everyone.
 
Extremely doubtful. There were barely any meaningful mods for either game. For the previous two games, the best thing we got was two texture packs, and the one for TW2 hasn't been updated since 2011 and has a few bugs in it. SweetFX and ENB will probably do more for the game than any mod you can expect.

Good luck waiting for an ENB for this game, because that's never going to happen.
 
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