The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c
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If anything I'm guessing the wormhole closes but Barry ends up traveling to another universe. The main timeline is in tact but Barry is just stuck in a different one. That way Arrow still continues and the STAR Labs gang is still OK, but we still get to play with alternate universe episodes. Easy.
Entryhazard
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Thus a variation of "nothing actually changed" after a whole season of teasing the definitive time travel. Sigh
Ignatz Mouse
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Maybe.
I took it to mean simply mean that more potential help was on the way for the good guys.
Also, an experienced Jay Garrick is going to be a lot tougher to fight than a rookie Barry Allen.
In the silver age, Barry and Jay were roughly equals in speed. I think I saw something that measured Barry, Jay and Wally and gave them strengths and weaknesses (endurance, acceleration, control) but they were all in the same ballpark.
Awesome, thanks!
The Cowboy
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Eddie totally failed at the time game, after they had vanquished Reverse Flash he should have gone for a vasectomy, thus erasing Eobard from existence - silly Eddie, he really didn't watch enough Bill and Ted.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I really hope that when Wells and Barry are talking at the start of the episode and Wells says "we're opposites, rivals, reverses" they were intentionally hinting at:
That was amazing. And that was mean to leave on a cliffhanger.
They should go for the real Jay Garrick, John Wesley Shipps. So basically the second universe would be the one of the first show as a joke.
Delta Assault
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It also seems way slower than how fast he'd need to be to dodge a lightning bolt. And probably a few other feats he's done on the show.
Random point to raise... we don't know the fate of Gideon in all of this.
I don't think Thawne had it on him when he was "captured" (according to his own plans) and I don't think Team Flash would have given it back to him with his suit.
So if Thawne intentionally left Gideon out of the action of the finale, isn't it possible that Gideon is out there in the past as a contingency for Thawne?
I don't think Thawne had it on him when he was "captured" (according to his own plans) and I don't think Team Flash would have given it back to him with his suit.
So if Thawne intentionally left Gideon out of the action of the finale, isn't it possible that Gideon is out there in the past as a contingency for Thawne?
WrenchNinja
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Absolutely. This is comicS. They wouldn't have lingered on his body getting sucked in otherwise.
HeisenbergLannister
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Maybe he'll travel to a near identical timeline, but we finally get Star City and Green Arrow names.
Entryhazard
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If Eddie didn't die Eboard wouldn't be erased tho
Oh, that would be amazing. That could handwave a lot of plotholes, like White Canary. They can essentially retcon everything bad now. Amazing. Please let it be a timeline where tumblr grew never found of Olicity.
WAR recon zero
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This show
This and avengers made the nerd in me very happy
This and avengers made the nerd in me very happy
Xamtheking
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What plot holes with White Canary?
She just gonna take a dip in the Lazarus Pit
PhoncipleBone
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You say joke. It would be too awesome.
Right, still had in mind that Pits only work on the living and barely living. But apparently they work also on dead people.
roflwaffles
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I think Henry Allen would make a perfect Jay Garrick.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
All they have to do is make Jay Garrick Barry's maternal Grandfather.
In that universe he never had children and he got speedster powers which slowed his aging.
In that universe he never had children and he got speedster powers which slowed his aging.
Xamtheking
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Freshly dead people, I think
Sara ain't that long dead
I think she is dead at least for moths, given that Olli was away at least one month and that a lot of other things happened between her death and "now". But jsut read up on Wikipedia, it can also work on people that are longer dead. It's essentially an even worse gamble than with living people, but since it's comicbooks people make it most of the time, especially if they are important.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
It depends on the version we're talking about, of course, but the pit has been shown to work on fully dead people in the comics.
It's just that, usually, the deader you are, the worse the consequences, ala Jason Todd/The Red Hood. Putting a long-dead person in there will bring back a psychopathic beast.
Nabs
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You look just like my father.
Xamtheking
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Get the fuck out
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Grant as Jay Garrick incoming.
Grant Gustin in old man makeup is Jay Garrick
EDIT ^^ shoulda read the next page before replying
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I can't describe just how good this was.
This show is greater than anything on television right now, and is the best adaptation of a superhero property to date.
What an absolutely incredible show.
What an amazing week this has been entertainment wise. First we get Mad Max establishing itself as one of the best action movies of all time, and one of the best movies for the decades. And then we get this. This is the best superhero adaptation anywhere, period. This is a classic. They've done everything you'd ever want from this kind of television show, and they've done it all with tremendous pristine and care. I doubt you'll find many properties where they love behind it all can be so easily recognised.
#1 television show.
This show is greater than anything on television right now, and is the best adaptation of a superhero property to date.
What an absolutely incredible show.
What an amazing week this has been entertainment wise. First we get Mad Max establishing itself as one of the best action movies of all time, and one of the best movies for the decades. And then we get this. This is the best superhero adaptation anywhere, period. This is a classic. They've done everything you'd ever want from this kind of television show, and they've done it all with tremendous pristine and care. I doubt you'll find many properties where they love behind it all can be so easily recognised.
#1 television show.
Stallion Dan
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Waiting until October to pass judgment on the finale.
Lots of shows do great build ups, but then utterly fail on the pay off and resolution. When they do this it makes the build up a waste of time.
Lots of shows do great build ups, but then utterly fail on the pay off and resolution. When they do this it makes the build up a waste of time.
It's not that I found that level of grief unconvincing but the overall way it was handled by the group. Oh go ahead, just annhiliate our entire existence to save your mom, you cute psychopath, you. Let's just accept the Wells/Thawne plan as the best plan and not maybe come up with an alternate approach like, IDK, bring mom to the future just before the killing blow so we keep the timeline basically intact and still save her from death?
bloody hell
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I think this is being viewed from the wrong perspective. The current timeline is the "wrong" timeline. It's the one that has no place existing and was created because a real psychopath messed things up royally. Do the billions of lives from the other timeline, along with the life of Barry's Mom not matter, either? I think everyone becomes more-or-less okay with it because these specific versions of themselves weren't supposed to exist anyway.
And literally any change that would save Nora would affect the future. Nora being murdered with a knife is different from her just disappearing. Barry's father wouldn't end up in prison and Barry wouldn't live with Joe and Iris.
On top of all this, isn't there also the implication that Barry wouldn't become the Flash for a few more years, which in turn would affect events in things like Arrow.
Frank the Great
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No one is asking the most obvious question from the finale.
Where do all the cows go 136 years from now?
Where do all the cows go 136 years from now?
Replace her with a Life Model Decoy.
The Cowboy
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There was an uprising of the cows in 2096, this sparked the great cow wars that lasted decades until all the cows got wiped out.
TacticalFox88
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Joe and Barry have better relationship than me and my own pops
Miles Quaritch
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Fantastic finale.
Loved the scene where Cisco was talking to Wells about the ring and the part where he tells Cisco that he also has powers.
What, how did Caitlin not know what a singularity is? Is hanging around with Ronnie making her stupid?
Was that a gold statue of Flash when he was tapping into the speedforce?
Oh damn at future Barry telling Barry no...fuck, didn't expect that. I guess the implication there being that Barry already tried it and there was a time-line where Flashpoint played out?
Fuck at the feels when Barry was with his mum.
Time travel super punch!!!! Holy fuck.
Ah man, I totally called that Eddie would kill himself after the talk with Firestorm. It was so obvious where it was leading, but I wonder...is he really dead with him being sucked up into the portal?
Fantastic finale and an amazing season overall. Will be interesting to see how the show copes without Cavanaugh going forward.
Loved the scene where Cisco was talking to Wells about the ring and the part where he tells Cisco that he also has powers.
What, how did Caitlin not know what a singularity is? Is hanging around with Ronnie making her stupid?
Was that a gold statue of Flash when he was tapping into the speedforce?
Oh damn at future Barry telling Barry no...fuck, didn't expect that. I guess the implication there being that Barry already tried it and there was a time-line where Flashpoint played out?
Fuck at the feels when Barry was with his mum.
Time travel super punch!!!! Holy fuck.
Ah man, I totally called that Eddie would kill himself after the talk with Firestorm. It was so obvious where it was leading, but I wonder...is he really dead with him being sucked up into the portal?
Fantastic finale and an amazing season overall. Will be interesting to see how the show copes without Cavanaugh going forward.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The real solution is to kill Wells and slap a red wig on him.
Pretty shameful the lazy Flash writers didn't think of this.
broncobuster
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If only Bat-Cow existed in this universe.
How about an Arrow Goat?
PhoncipleBone
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It will be a crossover with the Tick-verse. Man Eating Cow began a rebellion in the future.
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