When a game's base car selection exceeds the rest of the genre (in terms of cars made for the current-gen), I can't really follow your reasoning.
Forza Motorsport 6 has "wet weather, 3D puddles and night races" + more
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When a game's base car selection exceeds the rest of the genre (in terms of cars made for the current-gen), I can't really follow your reasoning.
Some people hate any idea or implementation of DLC at all, that's what I'm getting from his statement.
Implying that the 450+ initial cars include DLC is really silly.
To put this into perspective, Forza 6 will be the largest racing game on next-gen. The closest game to it is Horizon 2 with around half the cars and the closest game to that is Motorsport 5 and the closest game to that is probably Driveclub or PCars with less than a 1/4 of Forza 6.
GoldenCrow
Member
All full HDTV's have to support 1080/50 and 1080/60 so wouldn't have been much of an issue if true and ultimately 50 is better than 30 and if they did want to push a specific feature that improved gameplay but had to sacrifice the smoothness of the 60 I personally would be totally cool with that.
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I'm not a Ford guy, in fact I think they are some of the most insipid cars available but I love those break lights.
Turn 10 confirmed it was 60 so we need not worry about it.
Well also, since Driveclub was mentioned as an alternative, it seems even more odd. A season pass' worth of additional cars in DC is still basically half the base number of cars in Forza 5, and that had the "smallest" selection of games mentioned.
Yeah that threw me off too. What a weird comment.
The fact that we are getting 3D puddles, most likely hydroplaning, means that they are at least taking the physics side of weather beyond any other racing game that I know of.
Visually Driveclub is going to be almost impossible to beat when you're running double the framerate and with more cars on track.
If they put 30+ cars on track. If it 16 cars, then it's not impressive bacause one racing game already did that on last-gen
there is no race announcer of course
and that fact ruined my first impression that tomato here was referring to the classic music. but nope. so,highrez tomato, what gives? may I suggest next time ask the clerk at the store where you play forza to turn up the sound for you?
oh, and turn up the volume for these son , dont be afraid:
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/869421ce-1f6a-43c3-b5bf-e716b6baf7b6
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/fb0a59c5-f7dd-4f9a-8b92-97e00a7e7458
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/f4ae4bea-6921-4a78-aae0-b96998e650e2
http://xboxclips.com/P3tRaN/0a341f8e-b86e-42cb-b6b8-670b92956b26
and you dont even wanna go to horizon 2, which is of course using newer (but still old for forza 6) sound tricks than forza 5 did at day 1 2013.
guys, here is the best part:
because microsoft will also launch halo 5 and tomb raider, let alone rare game and all the heavy hitters from third parties,
I have a good feeling that forza 6 will not be released at christmas. not even on november.
and because t10 has proven that they run like a well oiled f1 engine, I'll say that MAYBE they'll be the first of the AAA games to launch.
I want SEPTEMBER
I can't realistically assume Forza 6 would be able to manage the same solution that Evo did with Driveclub for the windshield rain behavior, having half the rendering time to deal with it. As much as the viscosity looked too high for water, that's still the best-looking videogame rain effect I've come across in a racer. And that's from a generation of good-looking rain effects.
How about a locked 60 fps at all times?
They are already doubling the car count on track from 12 to 24.
I cannot wait to feel the wheel hit a puddle, feel the decreased rotation and immediate slip, and then feel the wheel rotate back up to original velocity. Man I fucking love the Forza physics, going offroad in Horizon 2 is so fucking exhilarating.
Doug Heffernan
Member
OMG yes!!! The Forza I've always wanted. Beardawalt delivers!
I can wait to furiously quit a race when this happens and I don't recover from it in the second half of an event, lol
Rewind bro!
Turn your Xbox one system language to Japanese and she sounds amazing. Just FYI.
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Mr Noobcraft/video/438373
WHAT
As much as wet weather and night racing are big bucket ponta that people are clamouring for, I don't like racing in those situations very much. I prefer the visibility of a dry day.
And don't knock 50fps. I wish games would have that as an option - if they can't lock at 60fps, let us use 50fps
And don't knock 50fps. I wish games would have that as an option - if they can't lock at 60fps, let us use 50fps
I added a video lol. Enjoy. Japanese Forza announcer lady tells me all about aluminum and carbon fiber and formula 1.
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Mr Noobcraft/video/438373
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Exactly. Yea, there are people who overestimate what DX12 will do, that's the truth, but the people completely downplaying the benefit it can have to the Xbox One at every turn and the extents to which they will go to imply there will be zero benefit, to me, are far worse and come off a whole lot more desperate in their attempts.
Look at the jump from Forza 2 to Forza 4. Look at the jump from Halo 3 to Halo 4. Yes, that all comes from the same accumulated experience with a piece of hardware as any other console generation, and the same would have taken place on the xbox one with or without DX12. That said, Dx12 is a bigger paradigm shift in API design than some are giving it credit for. No, wait, actually people are giving it its due, but they're doing so while bizarrely trying as hard as possible to sever any and all ties that Directx 12 could possibly have with the Xbox One, a console created by Microsoft. Flawed comparisons notwithstanding, DX12 even provides impressive performance boosts to much weaker intel integrated chips, and we're suppose to bury our heads in the ground and act like there's zero possibility the xbox one sees some meaningful benefit? It doesn't even need to be anywhere near as crazy as what we're seeing in all these different benchmarks to end up being a nice positive for the system.
And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what Phil Spencer is doing. He's being realistic and managing expectations so people can't say he oversold it. It benefits him in no way to try and present DX12 like it will be some miracle drug for the Xbox One, but rest assured that he has a pretty damn good idea of what it will mean for the Xbox One, and I'm certain he's a lot more gungho about its potential benefits than he's willing to let on in public. He looks at the whole "cloud" business and the way they were mocked for it, and has learned from that, and can anyone really blame him? That isn't to say there aren't some cool things that will come out of that, but he has obviously learned that it's far better to just walk a fine line and simply let the games and developers making them happen speak for themselves.
Never tried that, should probably give it a go
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Nice! Also dat Minecraft design.
That's what annoys me the most in DC. Rain looks amazing, but what is the point when it affects visibility and you have to drive slower, like in real life, but the AI is not affected by visibility, so it drives at full speed. Somewhere between FH2 rain and DC rain would be the best, in my opinion.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Actually it usually comes up from people who try to make jokes or downplay any positive news regarding Xbox one. Just because one or two misterxmedia fanboys have hoorayed it.
doffen that only happens if you go at showroom -like noobcraft's video- or when you play a series for the first time.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Lol I don't know what I was thinking. My bad.
Can't wait to see if it in action. I'm so ready for this. I want to drive the new GT. Seeing it at the Detroit Auto Show was pretty cool to see.
Someone asked Ford if the Ford GT was being built as the lightest power to rate ratio car of any Ford road car.... they said no. The Ford GT is being built as the lightest power to rate ratio car on the road......
I can't wait to see that beast in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7486BhK6BRA
For extra annoyance factor, you could play the career-mode of Project Cars, where terrain and road conditions don't effect the AI at all, so you have to account for not only visibility, but the performance hit during heavy rain, and the AI cars will be handling as though it were dry conditions.
This applies to track-side dirt, as well. To be fair though, this is on their bug list, but it's sure as heck not live in the PS4 version patches.
Can't wait to see if it in action. I'm so ready for this. I want to drive the new GT. Seeing it at the Detroit Auto Show was pretty cool to see.
Is it just me or is that what Dan would look like if he was a car? Man it is so handsome, cannot wait to rev up its engine.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Damn, well said.
flashmouth
Neo Member
I actually hope there will be preset times of day and weather settings for a selection of tracks. reasons:
1) I remember from other racing games you could get really invested in that particular track with that conditions, would love to have that feeling back
2) they can built some cool themed championships with only night racing or only rain
3) I want to have different games with different focus, there's already pCars that does everything dynamic and that's great, but I hope FM6 does something else
but if they could pull it off fully dynamic with a locked 60, I'd totally take that. but I doubt it and I'm fine without it. there are a lot of other things I like about FM which are more important to me than dynamic tod/weather.
German, but I didn't browse through foreign xbox sites, I just googled "forzatech". Since I learned about that a few days ago, I did that everyday with results set to last 24h and today this popped up at #2. That's why I ask if others thought if it's real or fake at first, because I couldn't even tell if it was the official xbox.jp website.
1) I remember from other racing games you could get really invested in that particular track with that conditions, would love to have that feeling back
2) they can built some cool themed championships with only night racing or only rain
3) I want to have different games with different focus, there's already pCars that does everything dynamic and that's great, but I hope FM6 does something else
but if they could pull it off fully dynamic with a locked 60, I'd totally take that. but I doubt it and I'm fine without it. there are a lot of other things I like about FM which are more important to me than dynamic tod/weather.
correct, I read this from you then I did my topic, which btw is "hardware-talk" free (ie forbidden)
but I have a q: are you japanese? if not, I'd like to know why the fuck where you searching xbox.jp in the first place
German, but I didn't browse through foreign xbox sites, I just googled "forzatech". Since I learned about that a few days ago, I did that everyday with results set to last 24h and today this popped up at #2. That's why I ask if others thought if it's real or fake at first, because I couldn't even tell if it was the official xbox.jp website.
Already? Is this franchise annualized at this point?
Gran Turismo: Original released in 1997, 6 games total
Forza: Original release in 2005, 8 games including this one
It's cool if core fans are down with the release schedule, but as someone who tapped out after the second iteration I don't think I would ever want to dive back in at this point. I don't think that enough would change in a racing game between iterations to merit another full price investment in such a short time and I wouldn't buy one that would have a dead online community in a year (or three) because everyone moved onto the newest release.
Gran Turismo: Original released in 1997, 6 games total
Forza: Original release in 2005, 8 games including this one
It's cool if core fans are down with the release schedule, but as someone who tapped out after the second iteration I don't think I would ever want to dive back in at this point. I don't think that enough would change in a racing game between iterations to merit another full price investment in such a short time and I wouldn't buy one that would have a dead online community in a year (or three) because everyone moved onto the newest release.
Someone put a beard on this car, we need confirmation!
Obligatory is Forza annualized comment is finally here I see.
It's not Turn 10's fault if Polyphony takes a ton of time to get games out.
Two of the games in your count of eight are done by a different studio, Playground Games.
Forza Motorsport releases once every two years.
What's even worse is that Gran Turismo's reviews have been in decline for a decade, even with the more conservative release calendar.
As someone who thought GT6 was the game GT5 should have been, I was annoyed seeing it review even poorer, and see it sell considerably less.
It is biennial. finally
GT5 was sooo bad at release(it definitely steered itself back after launch) but this thread isn't about Gran Turismo so let's try not to derail this.
Semi-annual is twice a year, Forza is bi-annual.
rokkerkory
Member
Are you serious man? the main FM games are every 2 years or so. GT games takes too long.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Thanks man. Dunno how I missed this.
Apoleptica
Banned
My only worry and wish for Forza 6 is that I hope T10 carry over some or all of the tracks from F5, particularly nurburgring. I want new tracks and locations for sure but I skipped out on F5.
Long Beech was great. It would be a crime if it didn't make an appearance.
Apparently, biannual means twice a year, and biennial means once every two years. I finally got it right lol, I had biannual, then semiannual, then once every two years, and now finally biennial.
you are German? then what the hell you are doing with an xbox at the first place??!?
I thought you guys detest it with a vengeance about your find, you did good. doesnt matter if you thought it was fake, you posting your finding was a great contribution in itself 8)
Improvements during a generation come from a combination of better tools from the platform holder, and better familiarity from the developers with the hardware. That shouldn't be surprising.
What is surprising for me is the specific xbox talk around DX12. I'm sure it brings some meaningful improvements for PC, although seemingly of more benefit for lower performance CPUs - I'm not sure how big the benefits will be for higher end gaming rigs. But for xbox, the drivers should have been efficient from the start. If they weren't, then we will see meaningful improvements, but it does also mean that the drivers until now have been immature.
One interesting thing for me is the gap between xbox and PS4. Current games seem to illustrate a performance gap that is roughly correct for the difference in hardware. So *if* there are significant improvements coming to xbox from driver updates, then that does suggest that there are similar improvements possible on PS4. Whether Sony can leverage that I don't know, but it'll be interesting to see.