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Trails of Cold Steel (Sen no Kiseki) coming to PS3, Vita in North America, Fall 2015

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Psxphile

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BlackIronCount said:
shit news
wonder why the chinese version can have jp voice and chinese text, it's not like asian version sold much better.
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Shouta said:
Because the Asian release is just the JP release but with Chinese boxart, most of the time.

In the localizations, deals were probably different if they kept the JP voice acting for the Chinese and Korean versions.
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Hm, actually I'm not sure if that accurately explains it.
 
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^Here's Tom's reply from the XSEED forums re: the Japanese voices being available in the Chinese version (http://forum.marvelous-usa.com/index.php?showtopic=28153&st=300#entry889788)

My guess would be that the original voice contract wasn't limited to Japan, but rather to Asia. It's not uncommon for Chinese and Korean releases of games to be able to get the rights to voice recordings with absolutely no trouble, but Western releases to have them unavailable.

That's pure speculation, though, as we honestly don't even know if it is a licensing issue that's holding the voices back at all -- only that we were told, in no uncertain terms, that they would not be available for us to use. Which suggests licensing to me, but there's no way to be sure.

And when you're dealing with Japanese businesses and somebody flat-out says "no," you don't go back to them and ask, "but whyyyy?!" -- that sort of thing never ends well. ;)

(Though we can tell Falcom, and have told them, "Hey, people are pretty upset about this decision," which is sort of a roundabout way to be like, "Yo, can't you do anything about this?!")
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(Though we can tell Falcom, and have told them, "Hey, people are pretty upset about this decision," which is sort of a roundabout way to be like, "Yo, can't you do anything about this?!")
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Good old Japanese businesses. Got to find ways to be indirect, haha.

Explanation makes sense though if that's the case.
 
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Hatsuu

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StaticWorld said:
As far as I know, its only digital. Hopefully a release date announcement will come soon.
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Yeah, it's digital only. PSP title + 2 UMDs as part of a physical package in 2015 is not a healthy combination. And at this point, we're WAY too late in the stage to consider it since Summer is the launch window and that's right around the corner. Honestly, working on SC PSP digital-only is stressful enough right now, haha.
 
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Shizuka

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Hatsuu said:
Yeah, it's digital only. PSP title + 2 UMDs as part of a physical package in 2015 is not a healthy combination. And at this point, we're WAY too late in the stage to consider it since Summer is the launch window and that's right around the corner. Honestly, working on SC PSP digital-only is stressful enough right now, haha.
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What about Europe? I heard that there was a possibility of another company like Ghostlight taking the european rights and maybe securing a physical run for the game.
 
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Hatsuu

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Shizuka said:
What about Europe? I heard that there was a possibility of another company like Ghostlight taking the european rights and maybe securing a physical run for the game.
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If I may be frank, it sounds like whoever you heard that from was talking out of their ass, ahaha. We're handling it digitally in Europe as well.
 
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Physical releases in this day and age for the PSP is pretty much a bad idea except under very special circumstances and even then, it's not recommended. Besides, digital means you can put play it on the Vita.
 
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Shizuka

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Hatsuu said:
If I may be frank, it sounds like whoever you heard that from was talking out of their ass, ahaha. We're handling it digitally in Europe as well.
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It was years ago, but I kept holding onto that hope. Oh well, I'll still double dip and everything.
 
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ColossalLazy

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mgs2master2 said:
Just preordered on vita from amazon. Where does this take place in the "Trails of" saga?
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StaticWorld

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Hatsuu said:
Yeah, it's digital only. PSP title + 2 UMDs as part of a physical package in 2015 is not a healthy combination. And at this point, we're WAY too late in the stage to consider it since Summer is the launch window and that's right around the corner. Honestly, working on SC PSP digital-only is stressful enough right now, haha.
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Will XSEED release a post mortem article on SC? Really would be interesting to know the ups and downs of localizing such a huge game.
 
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Shouta said:
Physical releases in this day and age for the PSP is pretty much a bad idea except under very special circumstances and even then, it's not recommended. Besides, digital means you can put play it on the Vita.
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Gaijinworks has done it twice(well working on the second). If there's a will, there's a way.
 
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Shengar

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Hatsuu said:
I won't be leading the CS dub, though--that honor will go to our editors who know every scene best. I just picked the voices I think would be best for the job, whether they're new, veteran, popular, or obscure. Thankfully, the editing duo only had a couple of requests between my personal picks, ha ha.
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Thank you for replying and giving your thought on this matter! It's insightful, at least for me anyway. Glad that you guys are active interacting with the community.
 
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FLD

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Aw man, Cold Steel and Blood Drive aren't up on Amazon.ca yet. :(

Hopefully they'll show up sooner rather than later. I always get kinda nervous when niche games take forever to get listed. Especially when it comes to Vita games these days...
 
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YianGaruga

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Nyoro SF said:
PS3 Preorder Link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Z9LUEGA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Vita Preorder Link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00Z9LUI9I/212-53-20/

$40 is a nice deal. Got the PS3 version.
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The (placeholder?) date is my birthday. :) It's a sign telling me to buy both~
Thanks for the present XSEED. Can't think of anything better!
Hatsuu said:
If I may be frank, it sounds like whoever you heard that from was talking out of their ass, ahaha. We're handling it digitally in Europe as well.
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Are there plans to (try to) release it simultaneously or is Europe going to have to wait? Brandish took quite a while..
 
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chaosblade said:
Could be announced later, Xseed doesn't usually announce them when they announce the game.
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Corpse party blood drive had its ever after edition on amazon so i thought it would be the same for this.

Went ahead and bought all the Sen no kiseki 1 music on itunes along with like 4 Sora no kiseki albums. Im ready.
 
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Steel

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Hmmm. I feel like they priced both versions at $40.00 in a scheme to get people to double dip. If so it's working, because I think I might be getting both....
 
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Shizuka

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I think Aeana or another mod mentioned that XSEED was working on this because Falcom pressured them to do it, it seems s/he was right:

We had concerns as well, going into this... but Falcom really was very insistent. They wanted this to happen, and as I said in the other topic, they weren't going to take no for an answer. So we had to weigh our options: comply with Falcom's wishes, or refuse them and risk hurting our entire partnership (since they really have never asked for much from us, letting us do mostly whatever we want with their entire back catalogue, and even giving their PC source code for various Ys and Trails games to Sara -- the ultimate act of trust from a Japanese developer to an overseas publisher, and a luxury we rarely have with anyone!).

When putting it in those terms, the choice was clear: we are partners with Falcom, and we must respect their wishes. If they want to promote Sen no Kiseki overseas, we will voice our concerns about that to them (and believe me, we did; Brittany and Ken had a meeting with Kondo-san specifically about that, which is where Brittany got the information she posted in her blog entry), but ultimately, we will still do it if they're absolutely certain they want to proceed. And they are quite adamant about that.
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http://forum.marvelous-usa.com/index.php?showtopic=28163
 
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encephalon

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It was the right choice. Keeping current with the series allows the games to keep up on current platforms and remain as attractive as possible. Selling well enough allows the series to continue to see western releases and having the current games without the zero arc is better than not having the games at all. These games are deliberately designed so that you can pick up at the beginning of nearly any arc. Playing all of the game gives you a more complete understanding and may let you pick up on references that others may not, but anything truly vital will be new to the main characters as well. Being an unflinching purist is not good business sense and XSEED needed to see that.
 
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