Visualante2
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I don't want to play a voiced character.
Fallout 4 - Multiple E3 Gameplay Demos, Releasing November 10th, 2015
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Kingpin Rogers
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Anyone think it looks a bit too kooky and wacky? Reminded me too much of dead rising.
Also you seem like you might get too powerful, I never saw fallout as a sandbox world for you to mess around in. I always saw it as a struggle for survival but power armour that can and the like all makes it seem as if you're gonna be overpowered by end game.
Also you seem like you might get too powerful, I never saw fallout as a sandbox world for you to mess around in. I always saw it as a struggle for survival but power armour that can and the like all makes it seem as if you're gonna be overpowered by end game.
SenatorBot
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It's bethesda, after the shinyness and hype wears off and you get the game, you fall in love with the world for the first 10 hours before you slowly realise the flaws of the writing and the designed game systems and then after that wait for mods to make the game playable.
Happened to Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3. All three games had insane hype that people realised were deeply flawed games months later. However those 10 hours of magic and wonder while you slowly explore the world is the best part of bethesda games.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I say this as someone that loves NV, but it's completely overrated on GAF (relative to FO3). The way people go on about the writing in the game, you would swear it was Citizen Kane or something. It's almost exactly the same as the Kotor/Kotor 2 situation, Kotor 2 is supposed to be easily the better game on GAF even though the game was unfinished and borderline broken.
I can honestly say that I played the shit out of Skyrim at launch and I have never fallen out of love with it. It is the only game that rivals GTA V or TLoU as the best game of the last generation IMHO.
Never happened to me, without mods even. Everybody's different though but I enjoyed exploring Fallout 3/Skyrim in the 100th hour just as much as I did in the first few hours.
The animations looked horrible, the dialogue system is awful and it is a bethesda game so it will be buggy as shit on launch.
It'll be fine when modders fix it, but I wouldn't play it on launch.
Pfft. I played Skyrim on 360 and it's the best game of that gen.
Finally got to see the gameplay clip from big screen and damn. I'm sold. Not a big fan of base building but everything else besides graphics and animations looks amazing.
And that weapon modding, god damn. Still not buying this day one because the game is going to be buggy as fuck at release, though.
And that weapon modding, god damn. Still not buying this day one because the game is going to be buggy as fuck at release, though.
psychotron
Member
This.
This is basically my opinion as well.
apollo_013
Banned
you can probably mute voice in the sound menu
this crafting system was cool, you can scrap and rebuild the world
so you're the level designer here
KillerSloth
Banned
It's bethesda, how well will much of this work? Dialog looked basic as fuck. Quest design , writing, amimations and combat could be crap for all we know. People are letting their excitement get their expectations go through the roof. I doubt this touches Witcher 3 in many areas., Many prefer top notch RPG mechanics, quests, writing over creation tools and bethesda quite frankly sucks at it.
Agree, lots of areas to be concerned with from what we have seen.
That doesn't mean what you think it means.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
*raises hand*
Don't get me wrong, the new features are interesting, but really not my bag. Fallout just isn't compelling to me anymore and if I'm honest I hate creation tools like they're offering with a passion. I'm the kind of guy that suffocates with so many options.
I'm kinda surprised they didn't show any revolutionary 'next-gen' mechanic really. Figured they would have tried to show off some improved AI behaviour or something.
What do you think looks more interesting, just out of curiosity? (and it has to be something due for release in 2015).
Issues:
Limited selection of voices (1/gender (probably)). Not every character should sound the same. Gets annoying.
Limits dialogue options extremely heavily, and thus reactions, options and whatever else.
They don't mesh in a RPG that well.
Of course, this being a Bethesda game, no one should be expecting a deep roleplaying experience, except in the "you play like you want" sense.
When you say 'you', you actually mean you, right? Because what you said is complete horseshit when applied to 'you', by which I mean me.
KillerSloth
Banned
Witcher, persona for me personally. Fallout knowing bethesda I doubt will be a deep role playing experience, more a sandbox. It depends on what you prefer. Dialog looked limited and lacking any real options. Questd esign is not bethesda's strong suit.
Voiced protag is up in the air for me. If Bethesda really ups their writing game and has created a compelling main story and secondary quests then it could be a really nice addition.
But if we are just getting the same mediocre writing and story then I can't say I'll care for it. Why highlight and spend so many resources on something most people have little interest and spending a lot of time with. Their strengths lie elsewhere.
If there is something worth paying detailed attention to then I'm all for fully voiced player character, but if it's just the same old passable writing I'd rather not have to bother with listening to mouth my own character and the NPCs as well.
But if we are just getting the same mediocre writing and story then I can't say I'll care for it. Why highlight and spend so many resources on something most people have little interest and spending a lot of time with. Their strengths lie elsewhere.
If there is something worth paying detailed attention to then I'm all for fully voiced player character, but if it's just the same old passable writing I'd rather not have to bother with listening to mouth my own character and the NPCs as well.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
Phantom pain easily, though I'm admittedly have been on Kojima's wild ride for years now. I guess I would have been on Todd's if the stars aligned...
2015's otherwise you may have a point. Really interested in everybody's gone to the rapture as well but we all know thats gonna be story over innovation.
Suppose it's less a case of interesting and more what I know I'll like.
DOWN
Banned
How does it limit options? They can have just as many lines as before. It's fundamentally the same system as Witcher 3, which was bloated with one question after another becoming available as you picked them.
TetraGenesis
Member
They made a big deal out of how they're hosting the conference so they didn't have to show the game anywhere else, so I doubt it.
Octavianus
Banned
Seriously, barring any massive surprises in the next 24 hours, how anybody could think that this is the most interesting game of this year is completely beyond me.
It looks like it will be absolutely shit and is among the few games I probably wouldn't even touch if they offered to pay me to play.
Underrail, Pillars of Eternity, Satellite Reign..
It looks like it will be absolutely shit and is among the few games I probably wouldn't even touch if they offered to pay me to play.
Underrail, Pillars of Eternity, Satellite Reign..
well the games usually need mods to fix the game for them why not make players make shit for them in game now.
on subject game i will wait after the messy launches of past few Beth games i will just wait and watch
If your base is going to get attacked I imagine it won't be totally optional unless you don't build a base in the first place.
KillerSloth
Banned
Having to voice the lines makes it a lot more work to have more dialog...Bethesda is not exactly great at it to begin with.
If it's like FO3, they'll let you spelunk anywhere you want. You just might not live to return, in which case you'll bring in that OP leveling. Of course the start areas make you a god amoung men by that time.
Buy like any RPG you can over level to start easy mode. So just don't do it, and give yourself a challenge by limiting leveling.
As for kooky, that's Fallout. It's dripping with satire and a cynical take on Americana.
Could you elaborate?
They said it's optional but also a big part of the game. So you will miss a lot...
CyberPunked
Member
Well shit. Ah well i'll just buy it from them then.
Honestly, Bethesda's writing has never been that great. I'm happy to see them expanding on the type of stuff they can do well. I always thought base building would be a fun mechanic in the Fallout world. I'm iffy on the dialogue wheel but only because it's something I expect from other franchises, not Fallout. I play enough Bioware games to adapt to it.
His Majesty
Banned
Glad I didn't stay up for this. I saw it coming but this is still a disappointment.
Dangansona
Member
Jesus this thread is such a bummer.
Also add me to the list of people who couldn't finish NV and was bored by Skyrim but played Fallout 3 to the end and loved it.
Also add me to the list of people who couldn't finish NV and was bored by Skyrim but played Fallout 3 to the end and loved it.
Ravensmash
Member
I always tend to think those people who fall out of love with it, or suddenly think it's dog shit, are those same people who play 200 hours practically non stop.
Like, no shit that you're burnt out.
wild wild rice
Member
Base building/tower defense and endless weapon crafting don't appeal to me in the slightest.
Aside from that, game looks great. I like the setting, I like playing before/during bomb drop, I like the kookiness, the dog, and all the classic Fallout stuff.
Aside from that, game looks great. I like the setting, I like playing before/during bomb drop, I like the kookiness, the dog, and all the classic Fallout stuff.
DamagedInc
Member
Same for me, I loved my time with Skyrim and Fallout 3 for that matter.
Because people have different opinions?
Because I've played the last three mediocre Bethesda games.
KillerSloth
Banned
YEah I don't understand what the big deal is? Are we all supposed to be yes men and drool over everything developers do? Only positive thoughts allowed?