JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's a nice feature to have and does bring something to the table that Sony cannot.
It's a big deal, but I agree that it's not game changing.
Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
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It's a big deal, but I agree that it's not game changing.
KenzinFive
Member
People who say backwards compatibility isn't a game changer haven't talked to non-gamers much. I remember my aunt asking about the PS4 and the Xbox One for my cousins and being extremely disappointed to find out that none of the PS3 and 360 games would work.
With Microsoft being able to say your 360 games will work on our new system, that will undoubtedly move Xbox Ones for casual players. Especially when you consider the very long life span the 360 had and its huge library.
With Microsoft being able to say your 360 games will work on our new system, that will undoubtedly move Xbox Ones for casual players. Especially when you consider the very long life span the 360 had and its huge library.
SolarPowered
Member
Me neither, but I became a PC guy because Nintendo shat the bed in a million different ways and the other two companies decided my 7th gen digital library was worth squat. Microsoft's move will mean a lot to people who have large digital libraries they can't trade or sell away as easily as physical ones.
This will not turn the tide, but it's a feather in MS' cap for sure.
I've got nothing but respect for the libraries of those two titans, but there really is no beating 360 BC. The graphical quality, tighter gameplay (especially in 360 shooters) and online functions of 360 titles adds too much to the pot. It's a really good deal.
I hope Sony takes the idea of a software ecosystem like Steam's seriously when the PS5 inevitably comes out.
Agreed
Nintendoheads in particular have to give MS a nod here. I remember a lot of people boasting that Nintendo's friendliness towards BC (and the idea of a real software ecosystem down the road) was the future. MS is showing signs they might follow that path and it benefits us all.
Thank you! It's nice to have for some folks and again it's not UNIVERSAL. It's a small list that will be updated over time so who's to say that your existing library will be covered? It's cool to have no doubt...but not a BIG deal and definitely not a game changer.
perineumlick
Member
Sounds good on paper, but I want to move forward; I sold my 360, so if there where any games I needed to play there I would have kept it. Not a game changer for me. but a good move on MS' part.
protomouse
Member
The PS3 was also $200 more expensive than the 360, on top of Sony's general launch clusterfuck.
Agreed.
All of you guys saying BC is worthless are crazy. Unless you were a gamer that played 90% of games last gen or just can't go back and play old games I don't get it. I download all of the 360's free games for gold games every month even if I don't play them. I can't wait to play some of them now that BC works on X1. There's a lot of games I missed and my friends missed last gen and I had GameFly. One of my friends the other day was asking about Fallout after seeing Fallout 4. BC will allow gamers to go back and check out games like Fallout in preperation for the new one...
TheAdmiester
Member
Add me on Xbox, you need a preview member to invite you.
GT is the same as my GAF name.
nrvalleytime
Member
Edit- my apologies. Spoke out of turn.
Look, the first current generation console to allow people to play games from a past generation is important. No one's going to engage your opinion if you keep this kind of attitude, friend.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
What about them? The whole point of the remaster is to deliver 1080p and hopefully 60fps, which bc can't do.
RandyBobandy
Banned
Keep fighting the good fight
"We're giving you backwards compatibility!"
(As long as you put in a retail disc and download a copy of the game from our limited selection of 360 games and not do anything with the disc it's self)
I'm sorry but that's not backwards compatibility, I mean hopefully this encourages Sony to do something similar but come on now.
(As long as you put in a retail disc and download a copy of the game from our limited selection of 360 games and not do anything with the disc it's self)
I'm sorry but that's not backwards compatibility, I mean hopefully this encourages Sony to do something similar but come on now.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I'm telling you.
Games with Gold is the real killer feature here if we can get all of those 360 titles on the Bone.
Games with Gold is the real killer feature here if we can get all of those 360 titles on the Bone.
Krisprolls
Banned
It's not really a big deal, especially since it's limited and coming 2 years later.
People who want to play their 360 games can just use their 360.
People who want to play their 360 games can just use their 360.
KO! Time to pull out ye old games.
They're all first party games. Probably because it requires approval from the publishers and they didn't want this leaking
autoduelist
Member
Just let everyone be happy for a couple hours.
Though I definitely agree with you -- people aren't suddenly going to upgrade from their 360 because they can suddenly play 360 games [that they can already play]. It will move some units, sure, and make existing owners happy... but it's not going to shift the tides or anything.
I mean, if Sony announced PS3 BC [they won't] it wouldn't shift sales much for them, either.
I missed out on roughly 6 years worth of XBLA content, so to me it's awesome. I'll be able to play games like Shaow Complex without having to buy an old system.
Regardless of what people think, the Wii U is current gen and had had BC out of the gate (full BC, not a game by game basis).
Also, people aren't going to be happy when only since of their games work. Like someone mentioned, what about THQ games? Sure, the big name title will get patched, but what about some other games? Will konami patch castlevania to enable it?
Admiral Woofington
Member
My hype died. No dragons dogma
captmcblack
Member
Hey, from a console warz perspective, it may not mean anything in the long run. Historically, BC - whether hardware, software, digital download or any other kind of solution - hasn't really moved the sales needle too much, irrespective of how it's spun or marketed.
But from a practical standpoint of consumer spend or consumer goodwill, and even from a bulletpoint on the box standpoint, there's no negative argument to be made against added value/functionality that benefits the users without additional cash out of their pocket.
I know for damn sure that being able to play my older games without having to re-buy them is something I appreciate. I know for damn sure that console warriors on forums like this and in Youtube/Twitch comments all over love the added bulletpoint on that box that the opposition doesn't have - and I know for sure that it's only going to give people more things to argue going forward. I know it's not real BC - full fat, HW/SW native, no downloads, no "approved software", just-works style BC. But the marketers won't need that to be able to say it supports that feature, and the guys talking about it in this forum won't be making sure to note the specific details of the BC when they're arguing about the feature in general to defend their purchase.
CelticKnight
Member
If this turns out to be useful, and not a half-arsed effort like the 360's backward compatability then it might tempt me to get a Xbox One later this year (Black Friday?). I could finally retire my old console then.
I thought Phil Spencer's customer friendly words were mostly just empty spin but now the company that originally tried to render this entire generation unplayable once the generation had finished (or whenever the authentication check-in server was turned off) have added backwards compatibility in a way that goes above and beyond what I would ever have expected from them.
Maybe they really have changed.
I once planned on getting a cheap 360 at the end of the last generation to catch up on what I've missed but in never dropped that far in price and then the original XB1 vision was unleashed and I lost any desire to buy it. I won't be getting a XB1 any time soon but now I think I might towards the end of it's lifecycle, the chance to catch up on two generations worth of exclusives will be too hard to resist.
Edit: Oh not all games and many of those old exclusives are getting remastered? Oh well it's still good news.
Maybe they really have changed.
I once planned on getting a cheap 360 at the end of the last generation to catch up on what I've missed but in never dropped that far in price and then the original XB1 vision was unleashed and I lost any desire to buy it. I won't be getting a XB1 any time soon but now I think I might towards the end of it's lifecycle, the chance to catch up on two generations worth of exclusives will be too hard to resist.
Edit: Oh not all games and many of those old exclusives are getting remastered? Oh well it's still good news.
I dunno, based on some reactions here and there I almost thought it was "original Xbox One plans" amounts of bad.
This means I can give my Xbox Slim to my brother for Netflix and FIFA, but I'll be able to play my old games as well. I was really decided on a Xbox One later this year and this cemented my decision.
If you're not gonna use this feature, it's fine; but I don't understand some of the reactions.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
This is great to have as a feature for the Bone. It's also a strong selling point, regardless of caveats. This decision comes off as both desperate and smart at the same time.
To see "backward compatible with your Xbox 360 games" will be geard towards their 360 fanbase, to reel or keep them in the xbox ecosystem.
Now to wait and see if the BC was worth announcing in the first place. Interesting times for the Xbox brand. Quite exciting too.
To see "backward compatible with your Xbox 360 games" will be geard towards their 360 fanbase, to reel or keep them in the xbox ecosystem.
Now to wait and see if the BC was worth announcing in the first place. Interesting times for the Xbox brand. Quite exciting too.
That seems like a situation where the developer would say no to BC - despite gow nice harmonix is....
Though getting a bonus for popping in a 360 rockband disc would be nice
Piercatore
Member
This is impressive. Never had a Microsoft console and I won't, but a take my hat off.
Sony should stop making business and start thinking more about give what we want and the ways to reach it. IMO PSNow is a really good example to complicate things for gamers and extract more money from us, and overall complicate things for people outside the U.S.
They really should do something to improve some services and quality of them. In this line, MS dropped the bomb and made a step forward.
Sony should stop making business and start thinking more about give what we want and the ways to reach it. IMO PSNow is a really good example to complicate things for gamers and extract more money from us, and overall complicate things for people outside the U.S.
They really should do something to improve some services and quality of them. In this line, MS dropped the bomb and made a step forward.
Netherscourge
Banned
I expect a lot of "trade-in-your-X360-toward-the-purchase-of-a-Xbox-One" deals in the very near future.
BlackNinja
Banned
Uh-oh.... this is HUGE!
I'm sure someone has mentioned this in the thread already, but I'll likely have to hold on to the 360 either way. Games such as OutRun and Afterburner Climax are clearly not going to make it thanks to licensing issues, and then there's the niche games such as Radiant Silvergun and Rez HD that'd better make it. I have 100 games or so on the 360, and it would be really nice not to worry about losing some of them; I can't imagine that they're all going to make it, though.
RandyBobandy
Banned
Well I just bought Mass Effect
Now I wait...
Now I wait...
It's great that they are making the effort but like you say how many games will be added depends on how the response is.
Cool stuff, thanks man.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
I don't understand some of the reactions. This is huge, this is a game changer, megaton.
I plan on using it too but you gotta be kidding if you think this is going to somehow change the landscape of this generation, which is pretty much set.
Mugatu
Member
The peripherals might also only work within RB4 and not with the XBO in general.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Wow.
KillerSloth
Banned
Most non gamers I talk too dont care they buy new systems to play new games. This is also limited BC.