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So I...I have a confession...

I am a little bit nervous about people, um...kind of hearing that I am this way, and then thinking: "Whoa, she's not welcome here." But I would say I'm different. We're all different. Most people would think I'm already weird anyway, so I don't think society's impression of me is going to change drastically based on one or two, er, discoveries that come to light after this post...it's pretty scary, y'know? You wonder: "How many people can I really, truly honestly be open with?"

I've tried to change this before, but...it's too important to me.

I...actually think marriage is between a white European man and a white European woman. I already have an idea of what marriage should be, and that will never change. At the end of the day, I think we don't need to truly be ashamed of how we really feel about things, so...I'm just being me! No one should be looked down upon. No one's views should be suppressed.

I know a lot of people who are black. I have friends who are latinos. I don't fear them, y'know? They're wonderful people, I love them! What I do feel insecure about is...speaking from the heart, and being really honest and open about what I believe. I mean, I love my friends, and several of them even happen to be Indigenous Australian.

How would it not be the case that an ever-loving creator who gave us everything we have doesn't love us? Where's that balance? Y'know? Where can you say: "No, I'm not going to be a part of this, but still respect someone"?

Bigoted is a huge word that gets thrown around. It's just not true! You cannot have a society of hatred or society of bigotry. I just happen to know what marriage is, and I don't see how it could change. The best way to kind of break down all these barriers...whoo, this is hard...is to get to know people one-on-one.

If you also believe that marriage is between one white European man and one white European woman...you are not alone. You are not alone.

You. Are. Not. Alone.





(Parody, obv.)

For a second there I was all whaaaat? then I looked at your avatar and I was like whaaaaa?

Then I realized what you were responding to.
 
What a fascinating la la land they live in. Do they think all gay people are sterile or something? If I had to bang a chick to get a kid I'd do it (100% homo here ...)
I want to know where they think gay people come from.

I mean, they seem to know that gay people can't procreate with each other, but somehow they've come to the conclusion that it means they'll die out if they quarantine them.

Maybe the thought just hasn't occurred to them that gay people are actually just their sons and daughters.
 
This thread was amazing, then sad, then amazing again. So happy this finally happened, congrats to the affected!

Would anyone mind rainbowfying my avvie in any way they deem pleasant? Thanks!
 
Disneyhate

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There's been unofficial gay days at Disney since the 90's, not to mention they have started selling merchandise for it.

The less bigots at the park the better.
 
http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/that-...gay-marriage-now-look-who-wants-equal-rights/

Allen West thinks the ruling has oppened up a constitutional argument for legal pedophilia because END OF DAYS SLIPPERY SLOPE OF GAYPOCALYSE

I am not adding much commentary to this, because I really think little is necessary. I am busy trying to find a hand hold on our slippery slope, because I fear my nation is falling into an abyss.
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But now, there’s actually a constitutional argument that can be made in its favor. As we said yesterday, the ruling on same sex marriage has many unintended consequences.

Basically they dug up an article from 2-4 years ago and said omg now it's probably constitutional thanks a lot gay marriage.


But yes it's the gay folk who are so hateful towards these christians
 
Because Obama, kissed a man, that photo is so real!!!! Obama is gay, spreading his impure agenda through the US. God is angry hurrur derpity derp. It's just a stupid photoshopped image that gives us a good reason to laugh at anyone who believes it's actually real. Especially that Oprah photoshop, lol. When I saw it the first thing I was reminded of
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That's hilarious. "I'm LMAOing at your life."
 
So I...I have a confession...

I am a little bit nervous about people, um...kind of hearing that I am this way, and then thinking: "Whoa, she's not welcome here." But I would say I'm different. We're all different. Most people would think I'm already weird anyway, so I don't think society's impression of me is going to change drastically based on one or two, er, discoveries that come to light after this post...it's pretty scary, y'know? You wonder: "How many people can I really, truly honestly be open with?"

I've tried to change this before, but...it's too important to me.

I...actually think marriage is between a white European man and a white European woman. I already have an idea of what marriage should be, and that will never change. At the end of the day, I think we don't need to truly be ashamed of how we really feel about things, so...I'm just being me! No one should be looked down upon. No one's views should be suppressed.

I know a lot of people who are black. I have friends who are latinos. I don't fear them, y'know? They're wonderful people, I love them! What I do feel insecure about is...speaking from the heart, and being really honest and open about what I believe. I mean, I love my friends, and several of them even happen to be Indigenous Australian.

How would it not be the case that an ever-loving creator who gave us everything we have doesn't love us? Where's that balance? Y'know? Where can you say: "No, I'm not going to be a part of this, but still respect someone"?

Bigoted is a huge word that gets thrown around. It's just not true! You cannot have a society of hatred or society of bigotry. I just happen to know what marriage is, and I don't see how it could change. The best way to kind of break down all these barriers...whoo, this is hard...is to get to know people one-on-one.

If you also believe that marriage is between one white European man and one white European woman...you are not alone. You are not alone.

You. Are. Not. Alone.





(Parody, obv.)

That's some awesome satire... I think it should be turned into a meme and passed around. Bonus points if some anti gay marriage person WTF's it and still doesn't get the irony in the fact that their attitude is pretty much the same thing (and I bet it would happen a lot. But it would be hilarious for those that got the joke).
 
Because Obama, kissed a man, that photo is so real!!!! Obama is gay, spreading his impure agenda through the US. God is angry hurrur derpity derp. It's just a stupid photoshopped image that gives us a good reason to laugh at anyone who believes it's actually real. Especially that Oprah photoshop, lol. When I saw it the first thing I was reminded of
coolest-grandpa-ever.jpg

The last line
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So I...I have a confession...

I am a little bit nervous about people, um...kind of hearing that I am this way, and then thinking: "Whoa, she's not welcome here." But I would say I'm different. We're all different. Most people would think I'm already weird anyway, so I don't think society's impression of me is going to change drastically based on one or two, er, discoveries that come to light after this post...it's pretty scary, y'know? You wonder: "How many people can I really, truly honestly be open with?"

I've tried to change this before, but...it's too important to me.

I...actually think marriage is between a white European man and a white European woman. I already have an idea of what marriage should be, and that will never change. At the end of the day, I think we don't need to truly be ashamed of how we really feel about things, so...I'm just being me! No one should be looked down upon. No one's views should be suppressed.

I know a lot of people who are black. I have friends who are latinos. I don't fear them, y'know? They're wonderful people, I love them! What I do feel insecure about is...speaking from the heart, and being really honest and open about what I believe. I mean, I love my friends, and several of them even happen to be Indigenous Australian.

How would it not be the case that an ever-loving creator who gave us everything we have doesn't love us? Where's that balance? Y'know? Where can you say: "No, I'm not going to be a part of this, but still respect someone"?

Bigoted is a huge word that gets thrown around. It's just not true! You cannot have a society of hatred or society of bigotry. I just happen to know what marriage is, and I don't see how it could change. The best way to kind of break down all these barriers...whoo, this is hard...is to get to know people one-on-one.

If you also believe that marriage is between one white European man and one white European woman...you are not alone. You are not alone.

You. Are. Not. Alone.





(Parody, obv.)
Parody is truly the best way of fighting against bigotry--except when it goes over their heads.
 
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My dad ladies and gentlemen.

My reply: "It would be awesome if he was!"

I love how the majority of the nation just showcased that they are fine with gays being gay, and yet shit like this is being perpetuated as if to say "yeah, but now its YOUR PRESIDENT! Didn't see that coming, did you?".

I wonder what it's like being filled with such hatred? They must have really empty lives to focus on ruining the happiness of others.

The real sad part is that the core is not hatred. It's pure terror that the thing you've always been told is the devil just happened.

Think about how petrifying that is to someone.
 
I wonder what it's like being filled with such hatred? They must have really empty lives to focus on ruining the happiness of others.
I assume that as well. It seems to me that if everyone just had a couple of nice hobbies next to a nice job they'd have much less time to hate.
 
I wonder what it's like being filled with such hatred? They must have really empty lives to focus on ruining the happiness of others.
It wouldn't feel like being filled with hatred to them. They would be scared, offended, sure--that's what happens when someone attacks your most preciously held 'truths'. But they would also take comfort in knowing that their views are justified and essentially correct.

Because it's not about common sense. It's not about what feels right (this the part where you "let the Lord into your heart").

It's about the arbitrary laws made up by the magical Santa Claus up in Heaven, the laws which they have come to love, because it's what will grant them access to eternal bliss.

They're so in love with themselves and their own salvation that it doesn't even matter how the sinners will be unjustly doomed to an eternity of hideous torture over disobeying a footnote.

#religion
 
I love how the majority of the nation just showcased that they are fine with gays being gay, and yet shit like this is being perpetuated as if to say "yeah, but now its YOUR PRESIDENT! Didn't see that coming, did you?".



The real sad part is that the core is not hatred. It's pure terror that the thing you've always been told is the devil just happened.

Think about how petrifying that is to someone.
I dunno, when I see things like this

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I can't really see it as anything other than contempt
 
It wouldn't feel like being filled with hatred to them. They would be scared, offended, sure--that's what happens when someone attacks your most preciously held 'truths'. But they would also take comfort in knowing that their views are justified and essentially correct.

Because it's not about common sense. It's not about what feels right (this the part where you "let the Lord into your heart").

It's about the arbitrary laws made up by the magical Santa Claus up in Heaven, the laws which they have come to love, because it's what will grant them access to eternal bliss.

They're so in love with themselves and their own salvation that it doesn't even matter how the sinners will be unjustly doomed to an eternity of hideous torture over disobeying a footnote.

#religion
There's gotta be something else at play here though, right? If it was purely for religious reasons then you should be able to separate your personal beliefs from what society at large should be doing, you should be able to say 'well homosexuality is against my religion, but not everybody shares my faith so that's on them'. It'd be like if Muslims demanded that pork be banned from sale just because they don't eat it, but that doesn't happen because it would be ridiculous. Muslims just don't buy pork products.

It honestly says to me that they simply don't like LGBT people. It's telling that of all the things people do that is supposedly 'sinful', this is the thing they focus on.
 
There's gotta be something else at play here though, right? If it was purely for religious reasons then you should be able to separate your personal beliefs from what society at large should be doing, you should be able to say 'well homosexuality is against my religion, but not everybody shares my faith so that's on them'. It'd be like if Muslims demanded that pork be banned from sale just because they don't eat it, but that doesn't happen because it would be ridiculous. Muslims just don't buy pork products.

It honestly says to me that they simply don't like LGBT people. It's telling that of all the things people do that is supposedly 'sinful', this is the thing they focus on.
Would you like someone who commits sin and revels in it, the worst thing possible? They would scare the shit out of you. Like, you could be staring at them and seeing in your mind's eye flashes of their bloodied corpse in Hell.

You would not just 'let them be', you would do everything in your power to sweep them under the rug, or better yet, try to convert them.

Of course, there are also moderate Christians, or those who sort of believe when it's convenient to quell their existential angst.
 
Would you like someone who commits sin and revels in it, the worst thing possible? They would scare the shit out of you. Like, you could be staring at them and seeing in your mind's eye flashes of their bloodied corpse in Hell.

You would not just 'let them be', you would do everything in your power to sweep them under the rug, or better yet, try to convert them.

Of course, there are also moderate Christians, or those who sort of believe when it's convenient to quell their existential angst.

O_o

Moderate pro gay christians are actually slowly becoming the majority.
 
Would you like someone who commits sin and revels in it, the worst thing possible? They would scare the shit out of you. Like, you could be staring at them and seeing in your mind's eye flashes of their bloodied corpse in Hell.

You would not just 'let them be', you would do everything in your power to sweep them under the rug, or better yet, try to convert them.

Of course, there are also moderate Christians, or those who sort of believe when it's convenient to quell their existential angst.

That may be, but like I said I think it's telling that this is the sin they focus on so much. They don't seem all that bothered by all the avarice amongst a lot of the right for example. Funny that.
 
O_o

Moderate pro gay christians are actually slowly becoming the majority.
Right. I would say it's a good thing, even though it reeks of compartmentalization and not being completely intellectually consistent with the Bible. Then again, "intellectually consistent" and "the Bible" isn't exactly a match made in heaven. But ehh, who gives a shit. :P

That may be, but like I said I think it's telling that this is the sin they focus on so much.
I guess it's what's popular this season. Not so cool to hate on wearing clothes of wool and linen anymore.
 
For a second there I was all whaaaat? then I looked at your avatar and I was like whaaaaa?

Then I realized what you were responding to.

That's some awesome satire... I think it should be turned into a meme and passed around. Bonus points if some anti gay marriage person WTF's it and still doesn't get the irony in the fact that their attitude is pretty much the same thing (and I bet it would happen a lot. But it would be hilarious for those that got the joke).

Parody is truly the best way of fighting against bigotry--except when it goes over their heads.

Yeah, it's always astonishing to me how many opponents of same sex marriage don't realise this parallel:

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I dunno, when I see things like this

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I can't really see it as anything other than contempt

The "gay people never procreate" argument is especially funny to me, because I have lesbian parents (and one of them is my biological mother).

*vanishes in a puff of logic*
 
The "gay people never procreate" argument is especially funny to me, because I have lesbian parents (and one of them is my biological mother).

*vanishes in a puff of logic*

Funny thing is those gay people were probably a product of a straight couple. I know I was. Someone needs to tell straight people to stop making gay babies.
 
Yeah, it's always astonishing to me how many opponents of same sex marriage don't realise this parallel:

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The "gay people never procreate" argument is especially funny to me, because I have lesbian parents (and one of them is my biological mother).

*vanishes in a puff of logic*

We don't take too kindly to no fancy logic in these here parts!
 
The "gay people never procreate" argument is especially funny to me, because I have lesbian parents (and one of them is my biological mother).

*vanishes in a puff of logic*

The procreation excuse was always bullshit since women who are past the age of menopause can legally marry.
 
I dunno, when I see things like this

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I can't really see it as anything other than contempt

"Leave out the B's"

Bi-erasure!!!! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

If you're gonna be homophobic and bigoted, don't discriminate the B's then! Do it right!! :p
 
The best two comments I've read on gay marriage:

I wonder why the same people who use their religious texts to defend their stance against gay marriage do not also demand that their government be more willing to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, house the homeless, succor the ill and dying with more help and concern. There is nothing in the New Testament that Jesus is reported to have said against homosexuality. But he preached over, and over, and over against how one should treat those who have little or nothing.
I'm not impressed with most Christians, even the ones who spend 2 hours a week at the local food kitchen is, at the same time they do their charity work, they go to the polls to vote for those who would cut taxes and make it even harder for those who receive charity to get ahead economically.


The response:

No religion says that the government should do all of those charitable, humanistic, and noble things. Instead, those churches have been quietly living their faith for centuries - feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and sustaining the poor.

Because they have done this routinely, habitually, and well, religiously, for thousands of years, it has been easy for you to ironically adopt your self-righteous, holier than thou posture.

The great counter response:

That dodge – “Jesus said the poor should be aided, but he didn’t say the government should do it, it should be PRIVATE and VOLUNTARY” – has always amused me. Conservative Christians are adamant that the government can and must enforce perceived Christians values and standards, by law, when it comes to same-sex marriage, abortion, contraception, teaching creationism, etc. All things that Jesus himself never spoke a word about. But the one central principle that was constantly on his lips and in his preaching, care for the poor and helpless? That’s none of the government’s business.

Love it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-next-gay-marriage-question/2015/06/29/03a54b8e-1e8c-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

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Conservatives love to talk about government interference in personal choices but when it comes to government helping the poor and giving health care then they couldn't care less. Jesus' teachings were always about helping poor and sick people but these Christians would not demand government do a thing to help anyone.
 
I tuned in to Glenn Beck on AM radio for all of 2 minutes on my way to work. He sure made it worth my while!

Glenn Beck's co-host, or guest (not sure) says that Ted Cruz is looking into the possibility that the Supreme Court ruling only applies to the cases it ruled on, and not the entire country. So it might be possible to pass gay marriage bans in other states, have them challenged, and by the time they're appealed to the Supreme Court, its makeup may have changed.

Okay, stay with me. So Glenn says he doesn't think it works that way. But the other guy's not finished. He says that someone said the same thing to Ted Cruz, pointing out that Brown vs. the Board of Education was applied to the whole nation. And Ted's response was "but that was the right decision, and it was a unanimous decision. This is the wrong decision, and it was 5-4". So Glenn says that Ted Cruz has "made a good point", and maybe there's something to it.

Very amusing.

Note: I may have mixed up who said what; I'm not familiar with the voices and have trouble telling who's talking sometimes.
 
I tuned in to Glenn Beck on AM radio for all of 2 minutes on my way to work. He sure made it worth my while!

Glenn Beck's co-host, or guest (not sure) says that Ted Cruz is looking into the possibility that the Supreme Court ruling only applies to the cases it ruled on, and not the entire country. So it might be possible to pass gay marriage bans in other states, have them challenged, and by the time they're appealed to the Supreme Court, its makeup may have changed.

Okay, stay with me. So Glenn says he doesn't think it works that way. But the other guy's not finished. He says that someone said the same thing to Ted Cruz, pointing out that Brown vs. the Board of Education was applied to the whole nation. And Ted's response was "but that was the right decision, and it was a unanimous decision. This is the wrong decision, and it was 5-4". So Glenn says that Ted Cruz has "made a good point", and maybe there's something to it.

Very amusing.

Note: I may have mixed up who said what; I'm not familiar with the voices and have trouble telling who's talking sometimes.


Except that won't happen and judges will fine cash strapped states for wasting their time making frivolous laws.
 
The "gay people never procreate" argument is especially funny to me, because I have lesbian parents (and one of them is my biological mother).

*vanishes in a puff of logic*

Especially given that plenty of heteronormative couples can't either. Infertility is not uncommon, not to mention vasectomies, tied tubes and older couples who also can't procreate. Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

In any event we have advances in in vitro fertilization. I can't remember the article (I'll look and post it if I can) where female induced pluripotent stem cells were reprogrammed to include the SRY gene (the important one on the y chromosome), so that combined with IVF could lead to two biological mothers in the future.... science wins.
 
Ugh, just had someone (same guy I've mentioned previously) post a video of man who was saved from being gay from Jesus commenting

"It totally exists! The ex gay community should not be ignored "
 
I tuned in to Glenn Beck on AM radio for all of 2 minutes on my way to work. He sure made it worth my while!

Glenn Beck's co-host, or guest (not sure) says that Ted Cruz is looking into the possibility that the Supreme Court ruling only applies to the cases it ruled on, and not the entire country. So it might be possible to pass gay marriage bans in other states, have them challenged, and by the time they're appealed to the Supreme Court, its makeup may have changed.

Okay, stay with me. So Glenn says he doesn't think it works that way. But the other guy's not finished. He says that someone said the same thing to Ted Cruz, pointing out that Brown vs. the Board of Education was applied to the whole nation. And Ted's response was "but that was the right decision, and it was a unanimous decision. This is the wrong decision, and it was 5-4". So Glenn says that Ted Cruz has "made a good point", and maybe there's something to it.

Very amusing.

Note: I may have mixed up who said what; I'm not familiar with the voices and have trouble telling who's talking sometimes.

I heard a bit of a Cruz interview on NPR where he noted basically the same thing. It was along the lines of the ruling not applying to those administrators for whom their "religious rights" would be compromised.

The interviewer asked him if he was saying that the Supreme Court should be ignored, and Cruz said something that pretty well doubled down on what he had just said. He was VERY picky about his word choice, and spoke slowly.
 
I wouldn't put anything past some of the state legislatures where Republicans have near-complete control.

Only problem is that, with this ruling, any legislation passed on the state level which prevents LGBTQ people from obtaining marriage licenses at all is unconstitutional according to the Constitution of the United States.

Soooo... Sorry red states.
 
I wouldn't put anything past some of the state legislatures where Republicans have near-complete control.

You're absolutely right, but I don't think it will be as easy for them to usurp this ruling as they have with abortion for example. I expect for them to give up on this one much sooner.
 
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