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[Jobbs]

as hard as she hit him ?
girl hits guy, fine
guy hits girl in return, boo boo

I don't really see any hit landed by her, plus he was pushing up against her to start the whole thing. He further provoked her by grabbing her.

Someone getting in your face a bit, especially someone who poses no physical threat to you, doesn't warrant a punch to the face. Some of you guys sound like fucking maniacs to me.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Yeah it really does. Like I said would you be cool with the Rock belting the snot out of a 90 pound woman who slapped him?

What if the woman was in her 70's? Stll acceptable for a 20 year old athlete to break her jaw?

Yes, I'd be fine with it if restraining the attacker failed and they kept trying to attack.

It's not on the victim to take being assaulted to protect the attacker. They made a decision to attack and to keep attacking, why should the victim just take it and not respond?

 

[Shaanyboi]

I don't really see any hit landed by her, plus he was pushing up against her to start the whole thing. He further provoked her by grabbing her.

Someone getting in your face a bit, especially someone who poses no physical threat to you, doesn't warrant a punch to the face. Some of you guys sound like fucking maniacs to me.

Did you watch the video? He doesn't even really notice her until after she's turned towards him with her fist raised. How and why are you suggesting he's "pushing up with her to start the whole thing" as if it was somehow his intention to start this?

 

[casablanca]

I bumped into thousands of people at bars and never been punched in the face or kicked int he nuts by anyone in these circumstances.

He tried to restrain her at first but she went for the kick and the punch. If you punch someone you must face the repercussions.

 

[Jobbs]

Did you watch the video? He doesn't even really notice her until after she's turned towards him with her fist raised. How and why are you suggesting he's "pushing up with her to start the whole thing" as if it was somehow his intention to start this?

I watched it and I saw him press into her at the start, yes. I doubt it was his intention to start a fight and deck a girl hard in the face, but he did start it.

I bumped into thousands of people at bars and never been punched in the face or kicked int he nuts by anyone in these circumstances.

He tried to restrain her at first but she went for the kick and the punch. If you punch someone you must face the repercussions.

Anyone who thinks there's even one part of this whole clip where he handled himself correctly I fear is insane. If a girl (probably drunk) sorta flailed at me because I bumped into her, I'd walk away. I wouldn't punch her solidly in the face. There's nothing excusable about that. She posed no threat to him and didn't injure him in any way.

 

[Principate]

If it were reversed and she punched him so hard that he bled onto the bar when he did no harm to her, then she should definitely be charged for such an overuse of force. I would have no problems with that.

Yeah but the point of that comparison is he would most definitely be charged as well (let's not kid ourselves here).

I watched it and I saw him press into her at the start, yes. I doubt it was his intention to start a fight and deck a girl hard in the face, but he did start it.
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Have you ever been drunk and at bar before? Serious question because I would question your sanity if you said that and had been, because literally everyone does it because the amount of space at the service point is limited and everyone is trying to get a drink, while many being drunk already.

if that counts as starting something bars might as well be fight clubs.

 

[casablanca]

here's nothing excusable about that. She posed no threat to him and didn't injure him in any way.

That's not true.

 

[zoukka]

If you punch someone you must face the repercussions.

Nah that's dumb. Sure it's bad to punch anyone but you don't deserve a knockout in return. Power balance is a big factor there want it or not.

 

[Shaanyboi]

I watched it and I saw him press into her at the start, yes. I doubt it was his intention to start a fight and deck a girl hard in the face, but he did start it.

...by bumping her? Have you been to a crowded place before? A bar? On a bus? You don't get to raise your fist at someone because they're trying to work their way through a crowd and are "getting in your bubble."

 

[Branduil]

Are people being serious with the "well you never know, her punch might kill him!" argument? I mean, it's technically true, but he's a freaking football player. The odds are way higher that he'll be seriously injured, concussed, or killed every time he takes a sack than from a drunk girl's weak flail. His own punch had a far higher chance of killing her than hers did him. Not even close to a proportional response.

 

[daniels]

Wait so if I as nerdy scrawny dude attack a other buff dude that is simply stronger than me this now means because he is stronger than me he is not allowed to defend himself?
Or does this only count for woman because of... what exactly?

 

[Randam]

Nah that's dumb. Sure it's bad to punch anyone but you don't deserve a knockout in return. Power balance is a big factor there want it or not.

Knockout?
She didn't even go down.


@ jobbs:
Did you even watch the gifs/video?

She took her fist up and kicked and punched him first.

 

[casablanca]

Are people being serious with the "well you never know, her punch might kill him!" argument? I mean, it's technically true, but he's a freaking football player. The odds are way higher that he'll be seriously injured, concussed, or killed every time he takes a sack than from a drunk girl's weak flail. His own punch had a far higher chance of killing her than hers did him. Not even close to a proportional response.

A groin attack can have severe repercussions.

 

[electroshockwave]

Wait so if I as nerdy scrawny dude attack a other a buff dude that is simply stronger than me this now means because he is stronger than me he is not allowed to defend himself?
Or does this only count for woman because of... what exactly?

How I presume conflicts play out in these guys minds: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5AMc1Fre2c

 

[bengraven]

Oh thank god.

I was so worried there wouldn't be anything to talk about this weekend with my FSU loving inlaws.

 

[rambis]

Wait so if I as nerdy scrawny dude attack a other a buff dude that is simply stronger than me this now means because he is stronger than me he is not allowed to defend himself?
Or does this only count for woman because of... what exactly?

Its a very weird grey area. Especially considering how popular feminist positions are now days.

Are people being serious with the "well you never know, her punch might kill him!" argument? I mean, it's technically true, but he's a freaking football player. The odds are way higher that he'll be seriously injured, concussed, or killed every time he takes a sack than from a drunk girl's weak flail. His own punch had a far higher chance of killing her than hers did him. Not even close to a proportional response.

Very strange lack of contempt for anything the woman did in this post. So did she do anything wrong in your eyes, is this just a big bad football player going to town on a woman for no reason.

Also a kick to the groin area is not minor at all. A man's groin area is among the weakest, less protected areas of human anatomy. A good kick can effectively end your ability to have kids.

 

[BlitzerRadic]

I was waiting on a subway platform minding my own business when a chick geeked out on something got stupid all up in my face. I ignored her, told her to fuck off, moved to different part of the platform to get away from her. A few minutes later, she got all up in my face again with the same shit and she started kicking me in my shins. I was thinking to myself this must be a joke, like a tv prank or something. I turned my head to look for the cameras then all of a sudden this bitch slapped me, scratched my face and drew blood. I turned around and clocked her, sent her to the ground.

Do I feel bad or guilty for what I did? Hell no. Wtf was I supposed to do? Let that chick keep slapping me? If you hit someone, you better well expect to get hit back, imo. If you dont want to get hit, dont hit me first!!

 

[THRILLH0]

Wait so if I as nerdy scrawny dude attack a other buff dude that is simply stronger than me this now means because he is stronger than me he is not allowed to defend himself?
Or does this only count for woman because of... what exactly?

How I presume conflicts play out in these guys minds: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5AMc1Fre2c

Don't worry guys, your Men's Rights to hit a woman are intact.

 

[Jackben]

It's okay because:

-he was drunk
-she attacked him first
-"misandry"
-instinct

It's like idiot bingo in regards to excusing excessive and unnecessary use of force.

 

[daniels]

Don't worry guys, your Men's Rights to hit a woman are intact.

how do you still not get it?

 

[Branduil]

I was waiting on a subway platform minding my own business when a chick geeked out on something got stupid all up in my face. I ignored her, told her to fuck off, moved to different part of the platform to get away from her. A few minutes later, she got all up in my face again with the same shit and she started kicking me in my shins. I was thinking to myself this must be a joke, like a tv prank or something. I turned my head to look for the cameras then all of a sudden this bitch slapped me, scratched my face and drew blood. I turned around and clocked her, sent her to the ground.

Do I feel bad or guilty for what I did? Hell no. Wtf was I supposed to do? Let that chick keep slapping me? If you hit someone, you better well expect to get hit back, imo. If you dont want to get hit, dont hit me first!!

The difference is, you tried to get away from the situation and she further escalated it by following you and continuing to attack you. In this case he's in her personal space the entire time, acting like he feels he's entitled it. Which, given that he was an FSU QB, he probably does.

 

[THRILLH0]

how do you still not get it?

What is there to "get"? I watched the same video you did and in my opinion his reaction was unacceptable.

 

[Huff]

Anytime my toddler cousin swings at me with all his force, I knock him the fuck out for starting shit

 

[Ray Wonder]

I watched it and I saw him press into her at the start, yes. I doubt it was his intention to start a fight and deck a girl hard in the face, but he did start it.



Anyone who thinks there's even one part of this whole clip where he handled himself correctly I fear is insane. If a girl (probably drunk) sorta flailed at me because I bumped into her, I'd walk away. I wouldn't punch her solidly in the face. There's nothing excusable about that. She posed no threat to him and didn't injure him in any way.

They're at a bar dude. 70% of the time you're pushing people. Everyone does it. Sometimes it's so crowded that your choices are either: Sit down and wait four hours until the club closes so you can leave/Push your way through.

 

[Malleymal]

Only fault I see here is that you have free education and the opportunity to play DI football at the highest of levels and you throw it all away before it even gets started.

The girl hit him, kicked him, yelled racial slurs...... Whatever . You don't throw your future away over some dumb ass chick with no sense.... You can't put yourself in those situations.

I was hit in the face clean by a chick before, in front of a large group of students. I grabbed her and held her against a wall until she calmed the hell down. It's hard to do, but you have too much riding on your actions brother

 

[Huff]

Has Auburn picked him up yet?

 

[daniels]

It's okay because:

-he was drunk
-she attacked him first
-"misandry"
-instinct

It's like idiot bingo in regards to excusing excessive and unnecessary use of force.

Actually the whole "she attacked him first" in your post is enough... its also a matter of view point if you see it as misandry or misogyny.
Simply because some people don't even trust a woman to not randomly hit men, or don't even think they have the same responsibility/equality as a men, i mean some even compare the mental capacity of a grown woman to a child, all so she is not wrong in the end.. so yeah you can see it both ways.
Having lower expectations and even excusing stupid stuff just because someone is a woman ... yeah

 

[Jackben]

I can't see it both ways. Anyone advocating or excusing what he did in any way is completely in the wrong.

 

[pompidu]

No excuse for the woman to do that, hit someone,expect to get hit back. There is no defending this woman.

 

[Kup]

Snooki punch was way worse.

Lights out, Guerilla radio.

 

[Amory]

She was being restrained by him. He had her arm. I don't blame her for hitting him to get him to let go.

FSU QBs, man. Nice to see that while he may have left, Jameis' asshole legacy lives on.

No excuse for the woman to do that, hit someone,expect to get hit back. There is no defending this woman.

People need to get over this double standard. He's twice her fucking size. One punch from her (which to me looks like self defense) is not equivalent to him knocking her into next week.

You don't hit women. Ever. It's a pretty simple rule.

 

[Alienous]

Glass stones, house, or something.

 

[Brianimaniac]

She was being restrained by him. He had her arm. I don't blame her for hitting him to get him to let go.

He grabbed her arm because she cocked her fist back to threaten a punch. She then punched him with her other hand.

 

[pompidu]

Snooki punch was way worse.

Lights out, Guerilla radio.

He punched his friend at the same time.

 

[daniels]

I can't see it both ways. Anyone advocating or excusing what he did in any way is completely in the wrong.

well i tried lets agree to disagree.

 

[Kup]

He punched his friend at the same time.

Chain x2.

 

[werks]

Anytime my toddler cousin swings at me with all his force, I knock him the fuck out for starting shit

Women are toddlers. Makes sense.

I like how every post talks about a 100 lbs woman v a hulking giant of a man. They look pretty close size wise.

 

[Shaanyboi]

She was being restrained by him. He had her arm. I don't blame her for hitting him to get him to let go.

FSU QBs, man. Nice to see that while he may have left, Jameis' asshole legacy lives on.



People need to get over this double standard. He's twice her fucking size. One punch from her (which to me looks like self defense) is not equivalent to him knocking her into next week.

You don't hit women. Ever. It's a pretty simple rule.

Avoid talking in absolutes in situational matters like this. This helps no one.

 

[Amory]

I like how every post talks about a 100 lbs woman v a hulking giant of a man. They look pretty close size wise.

You're either being disingenuous or you're an idiot.

The guy is a division 1 football player. We're not talking about height.

 

[Owari]

Women are toddlers. Makes sense.

I like how every post talks about a 100 lbs woman v a hulking giant of a man. They look pretty close size wise.

Yeah Quarterbacks aren't any bigger than average sized women

 

[old manatee]

Yeah he should have just let a stranger assault him for no reason.

 

[daniels]

Women are toddlers. Makes sense.

I like how every post talks about a 100 lbs woman v a hulking giant of a man. They look pretty close size wise.

Yep and this in 2015 with nerds being more popular than ever and on a video game forum where you can expect that not everyone is a buff dude... but whatever i don't have to understand why every example is sooo over the top.

 

[Shuggananas]

People need to get over this double standard.

[...]

You don't hit women. Ever. It's a pretty simple rule.

perfect.

 

[GrantDaNasty]

So what damage did the QB suffer from the woman?

An alleged knee to the groin, and a soft punch that grazes his cheek?

He responds by clocking the girl full-force, causing visible bruising and a black eye.

Look, I get it. We shouldn't live in a world where it's okay for one party to act in a specific manner but the other party is the bad guy for responding in a similar fashion.

He should've been the bigger man and backed off. Just act like an intelligent, rational human being in these scenarios instead of going full primal.

I don't think what the girl did was fine, but this QB gets whats coming to him. Control yourself for god's sake. Eye for an eye etc.

 

[werks]

Yeah Quarterbacks aren't any bigger than average sized women

She is bigger than both the guys to the right of her and the girl to the left. She isn't some petite little thing.

 

[werks]

So what damage did the QB suffer from the woman?

An alleged knee to the groin, and a soft punch that grazes his cheek?

He responds by clocking the girl full-force, causing visible bruising and a black eye.

Look, I get it. We shouldn't live in a world where it's okay for one party to act in a specific manner but the other party is the bad guy for responding in a similar fashion.

He should've been the bigger man and backed off. Just act like an intelligent, rational human being in these scenarios instead of going full primal.

I don't think what the girl did was fine, but this QB gets whats coming to him. Control yourself for god's sake. Eye for an eye etc.

You are right, they should be both charged with assault.

 

[pompidu]

People defending this violent woman, smh. Ridiculous.

 

[old manatee]

All this time I didn't realize that your height determined whether or not you could solve problems with violence.

 

[Abounder]

Couple of idiots especially Mr. Football. Risking away whatever future you had for hitting a woman in a bar? Dumbass.

 

[lobdale]

What a complete dick. Trying to force his way in, pullin' up by the sink, jawing at some girl... good riddance, see ya.