b...b..bbut...THEIR DLC POLICIES!!??!??
Fighting Games Weekly | July 13-19 | Stream Monster Yearly: Evolution 2015
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b...b..bbut...THEIR DLC POLICIES!!??!??
sixteen-bit
Member
base games are fun enough imo
or play the games they just publish like UNIEL or AH., lol
Lostconfused
Member
That 1.1 Xrd update must have really ruined the game for you huh.
SUPARSTARX
Member
Everyone's gonna have 3f bnb links. Might as well not play the game.
sixteen-bit
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vsxn7_3nTk
never thought I'd say this but uh... I'd prefer redrapper :lol
never thought I'd say this but uh... I'd prefer redrapper :lol
UD in turnabout mode...
I do think long blockstun buffers and double-motion supers don't play well together.
It's going to be horrible when people finish their combos instead of getting hit by my shoryuken I was doing waiting for them to drop it.
Why can't we have the guy from the 3S Intro and Char Select do a EVO song
that's what i said after the evo2012 marvel intro. not a big fan of the 2013 and 2014 intro vids either.. the 2011 intro is actually good for like the first ten seconds before it explodes into redrapper lyrics so that's my favorite somehow still
sixteen-bit
Member
Why can't we have the guy from the 3S Intro and Char Select do a EVO song
Infinite? That would be really cool.
You can't really compare the buffer in SFV to BlazBlue or KOFXIII. SFV (seemingly) lacks the combo options that allow for hard combos in other games.
MajinSweet4
Member
I think it just really shows how much some people have lost perspective. The idea that a game giving you an additional 2/60ths of a second or whatever to hit a button is going to ruin their fun. Then you have people saying crazy things like "Oh, people will always complain about something, so we should keep 1 frame links!". It's such a bad way to think about this, that I don't even know where to begin.
toddhunter
Member
Technically 1/60th. SF5 players are suddenly going to find out why all the top players have extra wires to their select button.
That aside, execution is only really a problem when a game starts out. If people stick with a game for a year, and actually put the work in, they'll figure shit out. It is best demonstrated by a game like Marvel. Your bog standard player these days would look like a god if they pulled off half the stuff that is normal now in a vanilla match.... Well ok they would be a god of marvel now just because they are still playing it, but the point still stands.
Execution is only really a barrier of time and removing it is ultimately going to make everybody better and the community stronger.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
sixteen-bit
Member
Guilty Gear or Marvel 2?
Even then, It's preferred over locking many characters out of a general audience vs a few aficionados.
There will probably be one or two characters that will be for those execution people anyway.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Even with a (small) buffer, if you think SFV isn't gonna require a high level of execution at the top you're crazy. Shit's not gonna turn Joe Sixpack into pre-washed up Daigo overnight. With jab confirms relegated to special cancels, your hit confirms are gonna have to be on point.
I'm more interested in Capcom building SFV from the ground-up for online. Its 2015, online is how a lot of people play now. I know they always say the netcode is gon be godlike, but this is the first time they've ever had a beta to test it/improve it. And its not like most companies' public betas, which are like exaggerated demos a month from release. This is something that's half a year out from the game's release, so they have enough time to take any feedback from here to polish the final product.
I'm more interested in Capcom building SFV from the ground-up for online. Its 2015, online is how a lot of people play now. I know they always say the netcode is gon be godlike, but this is the first time they've ever had a beta to test it/improve it. And its not like most companies' public betas, which are like exaggerated demos a month from release. This is something that's half a year out from the game's release, so they have enough time to take any feedback from here to polish the final product.
Coffeeling
Member
Long buffers and f~qcf DPs don't play well together D:
Sounds fun.
sixteen-bit
Member
Are we, for sure, getting a new SF5 character reveal at Evo or will we have to wait until another trade show? I just don't wanna get my hopes up.
Karsticles
Member
Grats!
Not sure what this means.
Haven't been paying attention to xrd.
Grats!
Thanks! Just landed in Vegas. So tired.
The made the input buffer more generous to ease execution.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Matt D said when he was doing an interview with Gamespot/IGN/Whoever at SDCC to "stay tuned to Evo for more reveals and SF4 biggest tournament in the world".
So.... cautiously optimistic?
sixteen-bit
Member
Ok, that's encouraging. Even if it's not a character it sounds like they're gonna reveal something.
Whether one or the other is better doesn't really matter to me. We'll see if the add an execution-heavy character (I could see them not doing it as a design choice). I just don't understand why people are comparing the buffer in anime games to the buffer in SFV.
Hope you know who you are getting married to. ;p
Lostconfused
Member
The 1.1 patch increased the input buffer from 2f to 3f.
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Guilty_Gear_Xrd_-SIGN-_1.10_patch_notes
Holy Order Sol
Member
In other Fighting Game Criminals news:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn2b55
Those are some weird-ass parents, wtf.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn2b55
Those are some weird-ass parents, wtf.
StriKeVillain
Banned
I thought he was 16 or 17 for a second.
Literally raised my eyebrows when I saw 22. Poor kid.
He's 22. He's at the age where he can ignore his parents weird thoughts about things and donehat he wants.
Karsticles
Member
I had a student last year that couldn't go to the school's water park field trip because "he might get hurt". Kid would always say his brother could beat me in chess. So I asked him if his brother had ever played in a chess tournament. "Oh no", he said. "My mom said that if he played in a tournament, he might lose and it would hurt his self esteem. So he doesn't do that."
Eh. If he lives at home and/or parents pay for college, that isn't the case.
Lostconfused
Member
Because you are pressing the same buttons and are fairly likely to be doing the same directional inputs/motions. On a mechanical level there is no difference between "styles" of games, well as long as you are only looking at what happens when the character is grounded.
That too, I don't feel like characters should be QCF and DP motions overlap. HCF and DP is fine though- especially if the HCF move isn't designed for combos.
Some parents are like this- once he goes there and gets through it they'll mellow out some- usually.
The difference is that the hard stuff in most anime games are a result of things that don't exist in SFV like IAD'ing, microdashing, and character specific stuff like hammerfall cancelling or C-Roa shit. You can't really say that adding a buffer to Xrd is the same as adding a buffer to SFV because of how much they differ IMO.
Not to say that they can't just stick Viper in SFV or something if they want an execution-heavy character. Just that you shouldn't ignore the rest of the game when making these comparisons.
Lostconfused
Member
Depends. IAD and micro dashes are hard because they can't be buffered. You can also have plenty of difficult to execute combos without any of those.
Well yeah, that's my point. Other games have a lot of different stuff to work with and that's why the comparisons aren't useful.
Well yeah that goes without saying lol. That's why I mentioned Viper.
Lostconfused
Member
No more like that you don't even need to bother with the comparison since we just agreed that having a buffer is easier than not having a buffer so adding a buffer and that things can still be complex and hard to execute.
KidA Seven
Member
He has to go through Uriajjo and Tonpy who are very very good players.
Do you know about potential matches Daigo might face?
KidA Seven
Member
Before semis probably aiai/RB and Kelvin.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-c8Cv6A54GwGN6R8g3QrbrocGDEqmYONclhCajE1CPA/edit#gid=1538641342
Missing a couple of players, but pick out a winner/loser for every block to make it into top 32.
KOFXIII isn't even that hard outside of a few characters, and the harder standard/bnb stuff is 1f links. Most HD combos are just simple loops that make use of the extremely generous special buffer. If you have enough self control to stop your DP motions at df then you can do more than enough to get by in KoFXIII with a little bit of practice.
IMO the hardest stuff tends to be weird juggles that require specific not-first-possible-frame timing that buffers can't possibly help with. Things like adjusting for character weight in GG, 3S Dudley, tons of BB combos, etc.
Lol I'm fine with that. That's why they need to put Venom in SFV.
Karsticles
Member
Anyone buy the HRAP4 Kai? Curious to what folks here think about the Hayabusa stuck and Kuro buttons. Already read 60 Amazon reviews and Markman's thoughts. Just curious if any locals have experience to contrast against Sanwa stuff.
You can always do a HCF motion if you are worried about input overlaps. I do a HCF motion for Dark Matter into Dark Hole when playing Dormammu. No big deal.
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but Third Strike Online Edition for PS3 is only $3.99 in the Canadian PS Store.
sixteen-bit
Member
That's a great deal, even if I'm not a big fan of the UI in this version.