Look at early PS3 games, lots of 360 ports that sold reasonably high.
Rise of the Tomb Raider coming to PC Early 2016. PS4 Holiday 2016
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Look at early PS3 games, lots of 360 ports that sold reasonably high.
meanspartan
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Square will launch this game, probably a good game, on only the second place platform in a packed holiday season, day and date with Fallout 4, where it will get crushed.
Then, they will wait a year to launch on the leading platform and will still charge $60 for it anyway, again releasing in a packed holiday season. Less Ps4 owners will care at this point, or if they do care they will generally buy the game later at a cheaper price because at the moment they are focused on the Holiday 2016 releases.
Square will call the game a disappointment in sales, even though it is entirely their own fault through a series of fucking stupid decisions. Unless the check from Microsoft really is THAT big.
Book it.
Then, they will wait a year to launch on the leading platform and will still charge $60 for it anyway, again releasing in a packed holiday season. Less Ps4 owners will care at this point, or if they do care they will generally buy the game later at a cheaper price because at the moment they are focused on the Holiday 2016 releases.
Square will call the game a disappointment in sales, even though it is entirely their own fault through a series of fucking stupid decisions. Unless the check from Microsoft really is THAT big.
Book it.
Lord Kefka
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Stop it
Chobel
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If not bundled, I doubt it.
OrbitalBeard
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Exactly. This has nothing to do with Uncharted. It seems pretty clear that MS locked in a console exclusivity deal that lasts an entire year.
It makes more sense in that Playstation has a userbase that is more receptive to these kinds of games, just like how it made sense for Bioware RPG's and things like Bioshock to be Xbox only, even if timed.
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SunBroDave
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Excellent, thank you.
MisterR
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Apparently because FF7 was huge when it came out? I don't know how that equates in any way to their being a big FF fan base on XBO.
It's also just dependent on where you live.
The GameStop I help out in is much different. Granted it's one store, but PS4 XV last I saw has mid 30's and xb1 has mid 20's. I didn't check on Kingdom Hearts though.
wumster3000
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I hate when companies buy time like this. Whether content or game releases. It's stupid and fans suffer for this. I'm glad that they finally said something about other platforms. This practice really needs to stop.
They probably think a year is too long to wait for most people. 6 months is one thing, a whole year is another. Capitalizing on typical consumer impatience.
Unless ps4 has exclusive classic hot pants costume........
If that happens i will buy it in heartbeat. But then again eidos is not that smart.
tfur
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I wonder what the politics are of announcing this now.
Did something change? Did they add another 6 months, but then decided to make it public because of $ term changes? You would think with an exclusive contract, there would be terms about keeping the details silent?
Is this to pump up Windows 10?
It seems weird to give out a PR statement of launch time info so far ahead of schedule.
Did something change? Did they add another 6 months, but then decided to make it public because of $ term changes? You would think with an exclusive contract, there would be terms about keeping the details silent?
Is this to pump up Windows 10?
It seems weird to give out a PR statement of launch time info so far ahead of schedule.
You got a response already. There are lots of FF fans on Xbox. They are just a better breed of FF fans than the PS4 ones because they knew to steer clear of the pure garbage that is Type-0 despite their fandom.
Sounds reasonable.
That western as fuck game Ryse though that reviewed terribly? Nope Xbox fans couldn't resist that.
Xbox Japanese game fans have better taste than western game fans confirmed.
Mass_Pincup
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I seriously hope they won't try to sell already released DLCs to PC and PS4 owners.
Ah that's good to hear. Feared I'd have to wait a year for this.
BluenoseGames
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There.
This means it will be on the Windows 10 store (probably with some discount if you brought xb1 digital) but also available on steam so therefore any OS.
Ghost Slayer
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Err did he say something wrong?
In this case consumer has lots of other choices to squander impatience.
Releasing this same month as fallout4 is stupid stupid move.
Well... we had very successful "space mech game + tactical stealth game" combo. But that was with Kojima, hype around MGS2 was through the roof.
Maybe Square will soon release their financial report for calendar Q2 [April-June], and they need some news cleared out so that there will be less stock fluctuations.
In terms of marketing this game has been horrible. From the reveal, and the partnership with Microsoft. Now they release on the same day as Fallout 4 and next year they are trying to jam the game in the Holiday season. Dont really think that people are going to buy a year old game when there are so many great games coming out.
orthodoxy1095
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Yeah, I've seen them. It's also not just Oct./Nov./Dec. games that chart. Some of the big yearlong sellers are going to be on those sales charts too.
Last year's December NPD Top 10 had COD, GTAV, Madden, Smash, NBA, Minecraft, Far Cry 4, Just Dance, Destiny and FIFA.
You can expect the same to happen again. So not only will the game be competing against Rock Band 4, Halo 5, Rainbow Six Siege, Guitar Hero Live, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Just Dance 2016, Need for Speed, Black Ops III, Fallout 4, Battlefront, XCOM 2, Just Cause 3, Hitman and potentially No Man's Sky, Persona 5 and Fable Legends, it'll also be competing against big sellers like FIFA, Madden and NBA.
I'm not guaranteeing that it's going to do poorly, but I also don't think that it's getting the best chance to shine by releasing at the time it's releasing.
The only reason Call of Duty gets DLC first on PS4 is because Sony paid for it, the only reason MS gets MOD support first in Fallout 4 is because they paid for it, the only reason Saturn didn't get Tomb Raider 2 is because Sony Paid for it... we can keep going for hundreds of games. This is common stuff in this industry.
OrbitalBeard
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lol ok
You realize it's entirely possible Tomb Raider (2013) sold more copies on 360 than PS3, right? I'm not sure we have an official breakdown, but the game sold very well on Xbox 360 and most third party titles sold more copies on Xbox last generation.
A game like Tomb Raider is the type of title Xbox players are more than fine paying money for.
Now, if you're referring to PS owners being more receptive to a game like FF...yeah, probably. But that doesn't change the fact that these deals are very, very similar. Sony clearly made a deal with SE to keep FFVII off of XB1 for a period of exclusivity. I personally couldn't care less...it's business. These things have never bothered me.
Lord Kefka
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SFV Sony made sure would stay console exclusive, Tomb Raider is not a console exclusive.
Because they'd have a way better chance of people actually buying the game if they gave the illusion that DLC would be worth something.
Pretty sure most of Tomb Raider's sales were in Europe which skewed heavily towards PS3.
BennyBlanco
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People played ff7 who don't give a shit about the rest of the series. It was a big deal in 1997.
Will get it for PC in Early 16 then.
But you really have to wonder if Squeenix really is thinking that this game will even remotely sell enough one year later (Holiday even, when all the "new" games hit) that they will end up making the same or more money (inclusive the one from Microsoft) that they would have made without this deal.
Not a chance in my opinion. This (then old) game will be a sidenote on PS4 holiday 2016.
And i'm not even talking about the brand damage they have already done to the long time fans (who are mostly on Playstation and PC)
Hope we are soon done with this exclusive 3rd party bs. (From Sony and Microsoft)
But you really have to wonder if Squeenix really is thinking that this game will even remotely sell enough one year later (Holiday even, when all the "new" games hit) that they will end up making the same or more money (inclusive the one from Microsoft) that they would have made without this deal.
Not a chance in my opinion. This (then old) game will be a sidenote on PS4 holiday 2016.
And i'm not even talking about the brand damage they have already done to the long time fans (who are mostly on Playstation and PC)
Hope we are soon done with this exclusive 3rd party bs. (From Sony and Microsoft)
I expect this game to be bundled heavily.
This is how the industry works my friend. Everyone pays for exclusive stuff to get an edge.
You start boycotting one company you're going to end up boycotting all of them.
Because no one is going to buy a game that is a year old for full price unless there is some hook to it.
By the time this release on ps4, xbone version will be $9.99 or lower.
How else you going to convince consumers to buy the same exact game?
MisterR
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LOL. Thanks, I missed that one.
WhiskerFrisker
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Because they are receiving a game an entire year later? If they want the game to sell, they should give some incentive.
orthodoxy1095
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Because releasing a game a year late at full price without any incentive will be a hard sell.
Edit: lol, the post above me speaks wisdom.
gundamkyoukai
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Don't see this game doing good on PS4 so late .
On the subject of FF 13 even at its worse with the PS3 and MS best with the Xbox 360 FF13 still so alot more on the PS3.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392924
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392924
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