Sony FY2015 Q1 (PS4: 3.0m shipped) PS4 total = 25.3m shipped worldwide

I was just wondering, what is the current bill of materials (BOM) for the PS4?

At almost 2 years past release, I am expecting it to be roughly 250 to 300 bucks for the BOM.
 
Does anyone know what pump is in an Autocruise Starburst 2006 model? We have filled the fresh water tank and cannot get the air out of the system. Have tried to prime the system but the taps just splutter then give up. The pump is running but nothing coming out of the taps. All suggestions gratefully received.

I heard from an insider that it's a shurflo RV pump, but they weren't bish approved so who knows.

I really don't know what we'll see for the ps4 bundles this holiday though, I'd guess the BoM of the ps4 is probably aroubd $300 but it's just a guess...
 
I heard from an insider that it's a shurflo RV pump, but they weren't bish approved so who knows...
Some insiders prefer not to have the tag, iirc.

Not saying your insider is 100% accurate, just that there are so,e who eschew the Bish check tag.
 
I doubt it will happen but I hope they drop it 100$ for holidays. I need a second one bad and don't want to pay 400$, especially since I'll probably pick up a XBone finally too if it's under 300$.
 
It's actually not outside the realm of possibility that they might be able to announce 25m sold-through at Gamescom next week. Unlikely, but not impossible.


It's already behind Wii, and though it might start to close the gap in later years after the Wii fell off, PS4 likely won't live long enough to truly catch up.

It's still ahead of PS2, and will probably stay ahead until next spring. But it will fall behind, and there's pretty much no way it'll have the longevity of PS2. The PS4's final numbers will be somewhere in the range of half that of PS2.

As said above PS4 exceeds PS2 now, but is falling behind not blitzing ahead. Remember that PS2 launched only in Japan and had production problems for a while; PS4 launched much wider and had far more units available for sale. That provided an initial advantage which is being eroded away.


Yes, PS3 has almost no chance to hit 100m or top Wii. It might be possible if Sony aggressively cut the price and promoted it hard for customers less concerned with the cutting edge. But that's very unlikely due to manufacturing costs and other factors; it wouldn't make financial sense to take the hit just for meaningless bragging rights.

We'll probably find out a number eventually, though. They might announce when they pass 90m--they have a history of milestone PR. But even if not, it's likely they'll announce a final number whenever they discontinue production.

The PS2 was able to get to 155 million because of its strong presence worldwide, including developing countries. I don't really see why it'd be impossible for it to atleast hit 100 million if they're able to cut the price down enough.
 
The PS2 was able to get to 155 million because of its strong presence worldwide, including developing countries. I don't really see why it'd be impossible for it to atleast hit 100 million if they're able to cut the price down enough.
yeah, I don't agree at all with the poster you quoted. No chance of getting over 75-77 million units when it's all said and done?

Meh...couldn't disagree more. I don't think developers or publishers want this to be a short gen, PS4 is designed to scale down in costs, there are growing markets outside of the usual dominant ones.
 

Ha, I Should have gotten that, I just saw that episode like 2 weeks ago.

Anyway, I think it's inevitable for the main players to move towards loss leader software freemium and add-on bundles as they move away from the hardware being the loss leader. Looking at the Driveclub double platinum thread (even though numbers were pre PS+ version) and the Rocket League download number I'd have to guess that there is a healthy market for add-ons and upgrades for a good quality free game.

I know personally for a free to play game I enjoy I feel comfortable enough to throw down another $10-20 sight unseen for add-ons or upgrades.
 
Sony China booth tour at China Joy 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afj0P_pVdXQ&feature=youtu.be

Street Fighter 5 stage event (Crowd is hype)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWL8-X5Nil4&feature=youtu.be

PlayStation and Xbox booths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap5ozw-oDLY&feature=youtu.be

Why China Joy is the best-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kbva-z6duo&feature=youtu.be

PlayStation is a global brand, without a doubt.

One of these vids is not like the others,

One of these vids just doesn't belong,

Can you tell which vid is not like the others,

By the time I finish my song?
 
Sony China booth tour at China Joy 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afj0P_pVdXQ&feature=youtu.be

Street Fighter 5 stage event (Crowd is hype)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWL8-X5Nil4&feature=youtu.be

PlayStation and Xbox booths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap5ozw-oDLY&feature=youtu.be

Why China Joy is the best-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kbva-z6duo&feature=youtu.be

PlayStation is a global brand, without a doubt.

Thanks for the post! Pretty interesting videos! That SFV finish!
 
That would be understandable if they had a net loss this quarter, but they didn't. So yeah it's click bait.
right. it is clickbait, but it is still technically truthful since, I guess all they're basically saying is that the bleeding/red sony is in because of Xperias is an overall greater number than the healing/green sony has done with the Ps4, notwithstanding the overall state of the company.

Haha perfect response
;)
I love it.
yep, so jayu26, you're on!
 
You guys are crazy if you think Sony is going to voluntarily take a $100 hit on their biggest product going into the biggest sales season.

I agree with this. Some attractive bundles and plenty of advertising (for the holidays) will keep them going strong for the rest of the year. Give me my Boba Fett-themed PS4, Sony! I think they will save the pricecut for the launch of Morpheus and speaking of Morpheus...

Do you lot think Morpheus could be what it takes to turn Japan around? Could some anime VR products get our japanese friends to buy PS4's in greater numbers?
 
It's surprising that it hasn't gone lower than number 3 in the hourly charts since yesterday. People really like it.

Found it interesting too because someone in the npd thread said the reason half the x1 sku's weren't charting was because the were preorders.

Yeah game is super popular. I don't play fps games and I even bought it and enjoyed it. Which sort of makes sense because halo games are the only other fps I've played to completion. A lot of my friends have stopped playing COD too and only play destiny now.
 
Why China Joy is the best-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kbva-z6duo&feature=youtu.be

PlayStation is a global brand, without a doubt.

plane-takes-off.jpg
 
Sony China booth tour at China Joy 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afj0P_pVdXQ&feature=youtu.be

Street Fighter 5 stage event (Crowd is hype)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWL8-X5Nil4&feature=youtu.be

PlayStation and Xbox booths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap5ozw-oDLY&feature=youtu.be

Why China Joy is the best-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kbva-z6duo&feature=youtu.be

PlayStation is a global brand, without a doubt.
what a posts! That SFV hype is universal baby!

Legitimately thinking Asian market is going to grow in significance this gen. Also, what is the secret to Asian youthful appearance, I need that diet, so tired of spending out my A@# in the U.S just to eat halfway healthy.
 
yeah, I don't agree at all with the poster you quoted. No chance of getting over 75-77 million units when it's all said and done?

Yeah, I don't get it, people still predict it will collapse after the growth YoY this quarter! The PS4 will already be nearly halfway to 80 million at the end of this fiscal year, & that's before Gran Turismo & God of War hit, & only days after UC4's launch.

I think a lot of people are projecting their "no games" position into the general consumer & assume that the casual gamers think exactly like them. A lot of them also live in the US bubble so they can't comprehend the success of the PS4 in EU & RotW.
 
A lot of them also live in the US bubble so they can't comprehend the success of the PS4 in EU & RotW.

This is the main issue i have, whether its US based forum posters, or US based paid professionals in the industry, they still haven't grasped whats happening in the Rest of the World for the PS4.
 
Yeah, I don't get it, people still predict it will collapse after the growth YoY this quarter! The PS4 will already be nearly halfway to 80 million at the end of this fiscal year, & that's before Gran Turismo & God of War hit, & only days after UC4's launch.

I think a lot of people are projecting their "no games" position into the general consumer & assume that the casual gamers think exactly like them. A lot of them also live in the US bubble so they can't comprehend the success of the PS4 in EU & RotW.
While I agree with this and personally predict that the PS4 will reach 120 million at the very end of its life, there are a few factors that can potentially reduce sales. I personally doubt it, but Nintendo's NX might eat into the PS4's sales. Then again, for all we know, NX might be chasing the mobile crowd and end up selling like the Wii U. But yeah, people expecting the PS4 sales to collapse are strange.

Edited for clarity.
 
Great result, deserved, too bad for mobile division sucking that much though. I want a $50 price cut and bundles this winter just to see how much more they can do with Fallout 4, Star Wars, MGSV and more.
The more they sell, the more japanese games I get as well as higher chances to see old classics again.


I was just wondering where to spend these holidays.
 
Unless it's really major one, it wouldn't a permaban. Not to mention that he have made a lot of contribution to Gaf too.

EDIT: I don't know it was from his channel :0
But it was post in a thread which I think is fine, not directly make thread out of them that usually count as self promotion.
 
If I had to take a punt, it could be from self promoting as all those youtube vids he's posted recently are on his channel.

Good point. A lot of those uploaded videos seem to be made elsewhere. I don't know if he's actually at Chinajoy, though I'm doubtful.
 
While I agree with this and personally predict that the PS4 will reach 120 million at the very end of its life, there are a few factors that can potentially reduce sales. I personally doubt it, but Nintendo's NX might eat into the PS4's sales. Then again, for all we know, NX might be chasing the mobile crowd and end up selling like the Wii U. But yeah, people expecting the PS4 sales to collapse are strange.

Edited for clarity.

I want the NX to succeed as much as the next guy, but unless something drastic happens, it will most likely be a non-factor.
 
If I had to take a punt, it could be from self promoting as all those youtube vids he's posted recently are on his channel.
I don't think it's fair to consider this self promotion. He was just trying to share with us what was going on in China, although those videos are from his channel.

I want the NX to succeed as much as the next guy, but unless something drastic happens, it will most likely be a non-factor.
I agree, but these things can be hard to predict. Don't forget that prediction thread for how well the current gen consoles would sell. Most of them were way off. Hell, those people who were wrong mostly thought that Sony would go bankrupt. LOL.
 
Seem to be a lot of prolific posters getting smacked with the banhammer lately. Dangerous times ladies and gents. Mind your P's and Q's.
 
I didn't realise posting your own show floor videos for on topic coverage or information, was regarded as self promotion. Those videos were great for getting a glimpse in to coverage at the Chinese show.

I think the ToS could maybe be a bit more explicit, possibly with examples. I mean, I believe it's not bannable self promotion to post your own gameplay videos in the OT's for games for example, even if theoretically you could make money from people watching them (though highly unlikely as not many people from here actually view such videos).
 
I thought it was only counted as self promotion if you make a thread featuring your own stuff. But maybe it counts in all posts as well, especially if you make a lot of the posts linking to an outside site. I hope its not too long. I like getting all that China news.
 
I thought it was only counted as self promotion if you make a thread featuring your own stuff. But maybe it counts in all posts as well, especially if you make a lot of the posts linking to an outside site. I hope its not too long. I like getting all that China news.
Someone should ask a mod to give information on the reason because just posting videos to your personal youtube channel is not banned usually. See review threads.
 
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