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Metal Gear Solid V: Gamescom Gameplay Demo
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You could also play offline if you don't want to deal with infiltrations, just treat them like Souls invasions.
I couldn't say. You might be okay with following the story, but if people like The Boss get referenced you might not know what it means.
Nightengale
Member
Or don't build FOBs.
Then don't participate in it, it's completely optional.
So, even if someone invade your base, is that a big deal?
I'll probably do that, I might try it when there is nothing else to do in SP.
Correct.
That appears to be the case, which is great.
I was worried they'd be able to steal everything, but that doesn't appear to be the case, only the stuff on FOB's are available to them.
Just don't build the FOB's, then you wont' get invaded.
I thought it looked excellent personally, the idea of invading people's bases and outwitting their defences sounds amazing.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Phantom Pain is primarily single player.
Metal Gear Online is the primarily competitive team multiplayer.
"Forward Operating Bases" are an optional multiplayer addition to the single player component not unlike the Souls series and its various multiplayer functions. If you choose to pursue it you'll be constructing new bases as an extension of your mother base. Mother Base is always offline and single player. These new bases, Forward Operating Bases, exist in an online ocean that everybody inhabits at the same time. Mechanically they can be tweaked, customised, and developed like your mother base. And they can net resources for your single player campaign. But existing in online space means they can be invaded by other players, and you can invade other players. You can leave defensive measures up to your AI (based on how you've constructed your FOB). You can engage directly when an invader shows. Or you can have an online friend arrive at your own invaded FOB to protect it.
Regardless, Mother Base is the core economy/R&D/military of MGSV and is locked offline. It is part of the story. Your FOBs are optional extensions that exist in online space. They net bonuses, but also enable the multiplayer invasions.
Metal Gear Online is the primarily competitive team multiplayer.
"Forward Operating Bases" are an optional multiplayer addition to the single player component not unlike the Souls series and its various multiplayer functions. If you choose to pursue it you'll be constructing new bases as an extension of your mother base. Mother Base is always offline and single player. These new bases, Forward Operating Bases, exist in an online ocean that everybody inhabits at the same time. Mechanically they can be tweaked, customised, and developed like your mother base. And they can net resources for your single player campaign. But existing in online space means they can be invaded by other players, and you can invade other players. You can leave defensive measures up to your AI (based on how you've constructed your FOB). You can engage directly when an invader shows. Or you can have an online friend arrive at your own invaded FOB to protect it.
Regardless, Mother Base is the core economy/R&D/military of MGSV and is locked offline. It is part of the story. Your FOBs are optional extensions that exist in online space. They net bonuses, but also enable the multiplayer invasions.
That's a shame, would have been much better if you can actually steal something precious from other players
Such an incredible demo and the whole Motherbase and FOB metagame seems so incredibly deep and engaging long term.
My only worry is that given the development fall out between Konami and Kojipro the game may not get significant post-launch updates in terms of balancing patches and DLC to keep this side of things really going for a long time (same applies to MGO) and without that it could all be wasted potential.
My only worry is that given the development fall out between Konami and Kojipro the game may not get significant post-launch updates in terms of balancing patches and DLC to keep this side of things really going for a long time (same applies to MGO) and without that it could all be wasted potential.
I hear that if a player invade you base and steal stuff, there is a small chance that you lose your job in real life.
Well if the invader makes it to the goal they seem to be rewarded somehow, and they also get some of the defenders troops, so maybe they could potentially steal powerful soldiers or GMP.
FOB give you extra thing for your singleplayer base. Is the same as Dark Souls, Risk and Reward.
You want a bonus on your resource? good but there a risk that someone steal it. I dont see it as a big deal
People are overrating like in Dark Souls
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Did you watch the video?
If they reach the command strut then you lose a lot of personnel.
DJmizuhara
Member
Currently downloading the latest GamesCom footage from Konami, it'll go up on gamersyde in 1 hour or 2.
Rawr Its Ry
Member
With all this PW talk...has anyone tried it on a VitaTv? I'm seriously thinking about buying it. Caught up on mgs1-2-3 and now watching the giant bomb guys play 4.
Well that was pretty goddamn exciting.
FOB gameplay looks REALLY fun and honestly, depending on how it actually ends up playing, it might be all the online MGS I need, since it's such a simple concept but it incorporates old fashion base sneaking in a PVP environment.
We already had a thing explaining that micro-transactions simply exist to speed up development, nothing more, I get people having the jaded mindset of "WELL THEN THEY BALANCED TIMERS AROUND THAT THEN!"
Who knows, maybe they did, I don't necessarily think that's the case though.
What I do know though, is that the time you spend dicking around in the desert will more than likely be enough time for stuff to get built and will make timers be mostly irrelevant anyway, it never really became an issue in Peace Walker, my only gripe with Peace Walker was fighting bosses for the CHANCE to get AI board 1 of 80 for Zeke's AI Upgrading, when one boss might only drop specific boards 1, 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, THAT was terrible, but that wasn't timer related.
Most REAL mico-transaction stuff will be in MGO, where you're buying endless cosmetic items, which franky is fine by me.
FOB gameplay looks REALLY fun and honestly, depending on how it actually ends up playing, it might be all the online MGS I need, since it's such a simple concept but it incorporates old fashion base sneaking in a PVP environment.
We already had a thing explaining that micro-transactions simply exist to speed up development, nothing more, I get people having the jaded mindset of "WELL THEN THEY BALANCED TIMERS AROUND THAT THEN!"
Who knows, maybe they did, I don't necessarily think that's the case though.
What I do know though, is that the time you spend dicking around in the desert will more than likely be enough time for stuff to get built and will make timers be mostly irrelevant anyway, it never really became an issue in Peace Walker, my only gripe with Peace Walker was fighting bosses for the CHANCE to get AI board 1 of 80 for Zeke's AI Upgrading, when one boss might only drop specific boards 1, 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, THAT was terrible, but that wasn't timer related.
Most REAL mico-transaction stuff will be in MGO, where you're buying endless cosmetic items, which franky is fine by me.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I'm saving FOB till after I beat the story. That's all I'm playing till I find out the conclusion, I refuse to be spoiled.
Do we actually know how much you can change of the bases? How much we can differentiate them? How do we know everytime you build an RND platform or whatever its not just the same layout at every persons base?
Zeuanimals
Member
I don't think we're able to customize individual platforms like that, they'll probably be randomized though. We've heard them talk about shortcuts that you can learn on your base that the other players won't know about. That wouldn't make sense if all the platforms are the same. I think we'll get some amount of customization beyond that since the platforms could have dumb layouts with vantage points looking over nothing or being blocked by a wall.
As I saw, FOBs are collecting MB coins for you [but can get under attack from other players].
I thought FOBs were basically just for multiplayer, so they'd have no point in SP?
That's gonna be the super high bitrate version, right?
Zeuanimals
Member
I feel weird about building with timers. It makes sense since things shouldn't be built instantaneously, I don't really know why, but it feels too "gamey" for me, if that makes sense. It's like infinite waves of enemies spawning out of nowhere in shooters rather than being placed strategically. Problem is, devs often abuse this or they want to make it "too realistic" and then abuse it by making us wait like we're waiting for an actual building to be made and having us pay money to have it built quicker.
I don't want them to be tediously long and apparently that's not the case with MGSV from what we've seen. Hopefully that stays true for all buildable and researchable things in MGSV. From what we've seen, most things seem to be built in 10-30 minutes. F2P mobile games take hours or even days and that's all the gameplay in those games. Atleast I can do a million other things while I wait.
Edit:
They speed up some things in SP and I believe they give you GMP as well as items specific to those areas you built them at. That really blows a hole in my premise about things not taking too long to build since having FOBs speed things up wouldn't be necessary if most things were just 10-30 minutes to build or research.
Stereogatari
Banned
Kojima is a God. This could very, very well dislodge MGS3 as my GOAT.
The multiplayer could be the first ever online multiplayer game I become interested in.
The multiplayer could be the first ever online multiplayer game I become interested in.
giancarlo123x
Banned
FOB is online and and not required at all. Totally optional. Motherbase is the main base that is separate, you can have 3 other FOB placed around different parts of the world and depending on position you get different resources and bonuses.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
I wish all gameplay videos for games in general were like this one. Really informative, not over the top, and shows you certain features and gameplay mechanics and describes them to you effectively and clearly.
Zeuanimals
Member
Not all games are going to have as many interesting mechanics, though. We've gotten similar videos for RDR, GTAV, and Just Cause 3, all open world sandbox games with interesting content and mechanics, but nowhere on the level of MGSV.
Stereogatari
Banned
It reminds me of something my friend said yesterday while I watched him do a playthrough of Ground Zeroes on his PC. He ended up shutting the lights/power of the facility, rescued Paz first and collected all the hostages in a truck and drove them to the LZ extaction point.
I was like "Dude WTF I didn't know you could do all these things!". He replied "I love testing the game's logic and seeing what is possible".
MGS is totally the kind of game that is made with that logic in mind. Kojima doesn't fuck around, the guy is a pure auteur.
Lots of stats at the end of the mission:
Taken from - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdK-msgJM1Y
MGS demo starts at around 2:52:00.
edit: Don't really get how that's a spoiler, but hidden now.
Taken from - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdK-msgJM1Y
MGS demo starts at around 2:52:00.
edit: Don't really get how that's a spoiler, but hidden now.
File size is 6.6 GB
Dj is still uploading it though, so some more patience will be required.Stereogatari
Banned
Lots of stats at the end of the mission:
Taken from - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdK-msgJM1Y
MGS demo starts at around 2:52:00.
Spoilers mate...
bryanee
Member
Can I set it so only friends can invade my base? I don't want every idiot invading me. Having an option that only lets people invade when you're actually on your base would be nice as well. I lke the idea of it but I don't want to have to worry about it every time I go on a mission.