Trump has since reversed his opinion on universal healthcare, wants to repeal Obamacare, is against abortion and no longer wants to raise taxes for the very wealthy.
He's an agent for the Clintons. If that wasn't obvious before, it should be now.
Even if we pretended he won, he would need majorities in other parts of government and have a cabinet 2x worse than Bush. I just don't think there are that many high-level batshit/incompetent people out there to pull the strings behind the scenes for anyone to fuck up.
Trump has since reversed his opinion on universal healthcare, wants to repeal Obamacare, is against abortion and no longer wants to raise taxes for the very wealthy.
He's an agent for the Clintons. If that wasn't obvious before, it should be now.
Trumspiracy
I see people have started trying to talk themselves into the belief that the Repubs actually have a flying chance in hell.
I sort of missed it last election cycle, but its fun to watch it happen in real time this season. Little by little, people trying to find some way to convince themselves that the one sided blowout we ALL know is coming; isn't looming.
Election night all the images, memes, tears and rants will once again stretch across the internet as these same people snap back to their senses and ask themselves "The fuck were we thinking".
Trump is better than Hilary. Hilary is a big sell out, comparable to social-democrats and their political behavior. Those kind of people only exist to prey on votes from the left to utilize them for rightwing policies.
If he's an agent for the Clinton's, he's been running a REALLY LONG endgame here, like before Obama's presidency. If anything they would've pulled this back in 2008 if the goal was to make Hillary's opponents look bad.
There isn't any reason you should be scared of Trump specifically. The only thing you should be scared of is a story coming out in the middle of next year that Hilary Clinton killed a guy in the 80s and paid to cover it up.
I have extreme anxiety that the left is thinking this thing is a landslide and it being close or even a loss. I can't handle a conservative president ever again.
Someone calm me down.
Human rationality is a myth and by extension democracy is a lie.
"It works for Scotland" Donald said referring to Scottosh healthcare.
Now the left in America might find Trump fun. Stupid or vacuous but they've seemingly not noticed how he's selling to the middle. I find it interesting; Trump seems more about working with others (although he believes hes usually right) and pragmatism.
I half feel Trump has been chased to the right by a left who would not back Obama's 2008 version of himaelf. I don't like him or support him but hes no ideologist; quite the opposite. For the left in America laughing at him; I don't thibk they've noticed he's on Romney's left.
If Donald is the one to bring an NHS style system to the US, I'd love it.
That's a Good thing, all candidates should be pushing for that style of healthcare IMO.
If the Republicans want to run candidates that push for universal healthcare. I say Good. A few more changes and I might actually vote for a Republican.
I'd still be worried about the Supreme Court nominations though.
But
1. The Republicans aren't going to do that.
2. If Donald is elected, and he still wants an NHS style system, He'd never get it past Congress.
He'd have the GOP lockstep from day 1. The Tea partiers in the House and Senate like Cruz and Steve King would fall over themselves in a Trump administration. He'd have no problems getting whatever he wanted.
I think more than anything Trump is an indication that non-politicians with money have huge potential as general election candidates.
This is what you get when you alienate the entire electorate. The parties might end up embracing celebrity figureheads as their public "leaders".
crowdpac has him as one of the most centrist republican candidates. he is the perfect republican candidate for the left. his chances in the general are very shaky and thus comforting, and him being so close to the center helps drag the general from the center-right back to the center.
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What percentage of the electorate actually votes, though? It's not pretty.This isn't even close to happening. The democratic party is growing and Trump is only a threat to the republican party in a general election in that if he runs as an independent he will take 10 to 15 percent of their votes. He is a blip among independents and a complete zero with democrats.
Lol at this image. Almost all of the policies that Sanders and Clinton support are also supported by a majority of US voters but it makes it out to look like they are as extreme as fucking Mike "marching-jews-to-the-furnace" Huckabee or Ben "prison-makes-you-gay" Carson.
What percentage of the electorate actually votes, though? It's not pretty.
Trump is pandering to try tostay in the race long enough to pocket a ton of campaign moneyprove his Republican-ness. He doesn't have a chance in a general election, but that's not what he's after.
I'm saying: imagine if it was what he was after? The polling numbers are really surprising. And, I'm saying, potentially predictive of future elections...
Then the left gets a socialist Marxist outsider from Nigeria whose campaign platform boils down to I'm not Trump. He or she will have Obama/Clinton advisors and end up being a mixed bag for 8 years as president cleaning up Trump's mess. Then, Repubs will turn to Marco Rubio for President and the world will end.
Or Hilary will win and do some stuff.
Gonna hit a few points covered across this thread:
1. Trump ain't nothing to worry about for the Ds. His unfavorables are absurd with most of the population. He turns lean right voters into hard left votes, hence why HRC beats him in a recent poll done in Kentucky. Fucking KENTUCKY. He gets the extreme right fringe out in droves though, and the Tea Party has turned that into the dominant force in the primaries.
2. Sanders is not Obama. Hell, Obama isn't/wasn't Obama. He was a valid candidate to be sure who got early traction with a strong showing in Iowa, but what really did Clinton (and McCain) in was that Obama's campaign was literally a decade ahead of the field in utilizing social media to rally voters, organize voting pools and, most importantly, extract funding. His outreach machine was unprecedented across the globe. It is now effectively being rolled over to HRC, I'm sure as some sort of horsetrading for Bill Clinton's ardent public support and campaigning last election.
3. Where did this "Hillary has no personality" bullshit come from? She has always been a unique, charismatic individual. She's a damn good interview, whether that is on the Daily Show/Colbert where it's superficial politics and jokes or in a hard hitting political wonk session with the more "serious" journalists. Her campaign is going to get about a year of negative/attack ad free play before the general to mend her negatives that do not stem from a lack of personality, they stem from the fact that when it comes to politics she's a cold, calculating, strategist who knows what she is doing 99% of the time. Basically, she's the HBIC but nobody actually likes the HBIC, they just respect the game. They'll soften that image before any rich white guy from the GOP starts lobbing grenades at her, and then much of it will look like angry white man syndrome run amok.
4. The best strategy the GOP has is Kasich/Rubio as POTUS/VP. The other way doesn't work because Rubio is still wet behind the ears and made a flat out statement last night that HRC's resume trounces the GOP field. Kasich has governor credentials, is moderate enough to not alienate the massive middle swath of voters, and would pull Ohio red. Rubio helps with hispanics and pulls Florida their way as well. That is the GOP ticket with a chance, but it's looking more and more like Kasich is going to get slapped down by the John Huntsman Effect (i.e. moderates and lefties consider him pallet-able, so GOP primary voters just assume he's awful).
5. People seriously under-estimate the "first woman president" pull HRC is going to get, or the bounce she'll see from older democrats who secretly didn't want to pull the lever for a black guy with a weird name. If you think black voter turnout is going to decline shortly after cops have been murdering black kids in the streets of most major metropolitan areas while the GOP claps from the sidelines you're fucking high.
Everything is queued up, HRC and Bill are too damn good on the big stage and this time she's running effectively unopposed. They didn't see the coming of social media as a major political force. Obama and Axelrod did. That is the one time they've ever been tripped up. You're talking about a couple who took Jeb's daddy's job when he was the sitting POTUS on the heels of St. Ronnie and actually had the country headed on a decent enough path. They live for that Red v. Blue chess match.
If Trump wanted to win, he would have run as a Democrat. The national demograpics are seriously awful for Republicans. He is using the election to raise his personal capital, and has no intention of being elected.
Lol at this image. Almost all of the policies that Sanders and Clinton support are also supported by a majority of US voters but it makes it out to look like they are as extreme as fucking Mike "marching-jews-to-the-furnace" Huckabee or Ben "prison-makes-you-gay" Carson.
Hardly. Trump took one look at how Hillary has the entire Democratic party marching in lockstep behind her, and one look at the Thunderdome-like chaos on the Republican side, and decided he was going to be a Republican. He wasn't going to beat Hillary to the Democratic nomination, but on the GOP side at this point I think Lex Luthor could be a credible candidate for them.
Hey if Trump can get single payer pushed through I'm all for him being President. This country survived two Bush terms and he can't do any worse than him.
Did OP watch the debate? Trump said very clearly that he is no longer for single payer healthcare. He wants to return to a fully privatized system, repeal Obamacare, and do something to help people "who can't help themselves." It is true that in the past Trump's positions have been all over the place. But he is now firmly a conservative republican. Call it pandering or whatever but that's what he says.