Silver Arrows
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Indeed it is.
Pick-up artist (who believes rape should be legal) was chased out of Montreal bar
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Indeed it is.
How do you know that? You do not. This is citizens playing their own 'police'.
CrashSimonFaye
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Are you just pretending that you never made it further than middle school? Precious.
/sigh, I feel like I am talking to my nephew but even he has something interesting to say once in a while.
This is going down logical fallacy lane.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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It's gotta suck to be a woman on a forum and read that people see rape advocacy as a "different view" in the level of Lima bean preferences
SolicitorPirate
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There have been gaffers who genuinely victim blamed rape victims. The defence force isn't a surprise at all
Silver Arrows
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You do realize back seat modding is punishable by ban, right?
eBay Huckster
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Because unlike you, your nephew actually knows how to read?
What part of this first paragraph is unclear? Do I need to start sifting through this Roosh guy's posts so I can detail exactly what his grooming tactics are, or can you stop pretending you have the critical thinking processes of a 5 year old for ten seconds?
SuperEpicGuy
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Eh, being a pick up artist is fine, but saying that rape should be legal is just bullshit.
Josh with a J
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IM PEACOCKING BRO
(I have nothing else to add to this except that this dude is a douche)
(I have nothing else to add to this except that this dude is a douche)
CrashSimonFaye
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I'm not back seat modding. Just saying that yeah, you are done here since you said you were leaving and you weren't interested in reading the topic anyway since no one in here has agreed with the guys views yet you think people have.
Jesus, his sounds like something I would say back in 10th grade. 2edgy4me.
Well I'm not sure. Why don't you go read his ebook and let us know? Because unlike the men/women in this video, he's outright advertising his intent.
KiwiLannister
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Fucks sake guys, a few people in here try to play a slight devils advocate for the sake of discussion and you act like they support the guy. You don't even try and engage them you just straight up insult them. Nobody in this thread is agreeing with the guy's beliefs, some people are just saying that assaulting someone based on their beliefs is wrong. If they don't want him in the bar it is the right of the business owners to kick him out but mob justice is gross. There is a reason that there are proper legal channels for this stuff instead of relying on batman.
Neither myself or anyone else in this thread is a part of his defense force. Jesus christ. The guy clearly has some disgusting and unhealthy views on women. I just don't think the way to deal with this is through mob justice. And sure it's just a beer to the face but that doesn't mean it's not still wrong. The Cecil Lion thing that has been in the news recently should be enough evidence of how fucking ridiculous it is when the internet bullies people instead of letting the legal system do its work.
Neither myself or anyone else in this thread is a part of his defense force. Jesus christ. The guy clearly has some disgusting and unhealthy views on women. I just don't think the way to deal with this is through mob justice. And sure it's just a beer to the face but that doesn't mean it's not still wrong. The Cecil Lion thing that has been in the news recently should be enough evidence of how fucking ridiculous it is when the internet bullies people instead of letting the legal system do its work.
eBay Huckster
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Not trying to pile on you (as any further replies to this might wind up doing just that), but I'm pretty sure people are getting testy over the fact that they're implying Roosh was "under attack" from these people explicitly for "opinions and political views" instead of, y'know, the fact that he's an actual rapist.
It's perfectly okay to play devil's advocate when it comes to the subject of vigilante justice here - and to be honest, the only reason I'm not shedding any tears here is because I'm an assault victim - but that's not the entire story here.
CrashSimonFaye
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There is nothing funny about people like you that cannot comprehend text efficiently.
Judging by your posts and your lack of comprehension, last week?
CrashSimonFaye
Banned
THANK YOU!
From the looks of it, not a single person agrees with this guys views on rape but the hivemind wants to throw a hissy fit over those who don't simply grab their pitchforks and fall in line.
It's quite sad, even worse then the people resorting to logical fallacies. Not surprising though.
KiwiLannister
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Then don't let him into the bar. Nothing wrong with it. If someone has a problem with his story about raping someone then call the police, don't attack him. If Hitler walks into the bar you don't punch him in the face (however satisfying), you call the police and let them deal with him.
eBay Huckster
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See, now I'm just wondering what the legal policy would be if a head of state walked into a bar in a state he was at war with - for example, Hitler casually walking into a Montreal bar.
This is why we don't Godwin.
Pickup artists are creepy fucks like 90% of the time, I'm honestly surprised that this guy is even worse.
Also, since when is throwing beer on a rapist assault? Assault would be stabbing or something, right?
Also Devils Advocacy has a time and a place, defending admitted rapists probably isn't it. Unless you're like a defence attorney or something.
Also, since when is throwing beer on a rapist assault? Assault would be stabbing or something, right?
Also Devils Advocacy has a time and a place, defending admitted rapists probably isn't it. Unless you're like a defence attorney or something.
Sup Roosh, how's Gamergate treating you?
CrashSimonFaye
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It's ridiculous that you have to say this.
You done there yet, champ?
Ah, we've fallen this low this quickly, well played.
Guy who spends half of the thread using ad hominem complains about fallacies
:lol:
You might want to read their posts again. They are actually framing the situation as "oh, this guy has different opinions, let him be" instead of "holy fuck, it's a serial rapist setting up his next victim". All those posts claiming it's all "difference of opinions" is fucking disgusting.
Silver Arrows
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KiwiLannister
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Those advocating mob justice are forgetting:
What if they identified the wrong guy? Just someone that looks like him?
What if he lied about that rape in a book to try and seem edgy or sell the book?
Obviously nothing extreme happened, but alcohol + mob justice could very easily end in him being killed or seriously hurt, it is not the place of regular citizens to be judge, jury and executioner here. Because they will get it wrong. This forum was very quick to blame reddit for the boston bomber witch hunt.....
I was very close to mentioning Gamergate, which seems to be the current equivalent in most Neogaf threads. This thread is actually similar, where neogaf puts its hands over its ears instead of trying to have a debate. As stupid as the gamergate movement was, I thought the response here was more embarrassing.
What if they identified the wrong guy? Just someone that looks like him?
What if he lied about that rape in a book to try and seem edgy or sell the book?
Obviously nothing extreme happened, but alcohol + mob justice could very easily end in him being killed or seriously hurt, it is not the place of regular citizens to be judge, jury and executioner here. Because they will get it wrong. This forum was very quick to blame reddit for the boston bomber witch hunt.....
I was very close to mentioning Gamergate, which seems to be the current equivalent in most Neogaf threads. This thread is actually similar, where neogaf puts its hands over its ears instead of trying to have a debate. As stupid as the gamergate movement was, I thought the response here was more embarrassing.
*slow clap*
You have officially become the most embarrassing person on this forum.
But then I suppose I'm unable to understand comebacks as brilliant and witty as yours.
Baron von Loathsome
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I remember an article from this douche's site that was posted in the GamerGate thread. It was about abusing one's wife in order to control her, and it was fucking terrifying.
I can comprehend that he assaulted a woman and some good citizens push him away. But I guess a admitted rapist should be tolerated cause what harm could he possibly do?
Do you agree with any of his less controversial views on MRA and pick up artisanship?
eBay Huckster
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I mean, we're still kind of getting off base here, which is that in regards to the people "playing devil's advocate" to begin with...
Like I already said - it's perfectly fine to play devil's advocate when it comes to the actual doling out of vigilante justice. I have a more nuanced position on it than I'm letting on here and I'd ordinarily be in full agreement with you.
But it's not so fine to imply that the only issues people had were "differences of opinion and politics", particularly in Roosh's case where there's tons of documented evidence of his scummery.
I guess my response there would be: as long as they're not directly connected to some kind of act of terror, I won't sympathize in the slightest with any vigilantes that would decide to attack them. They might have disgusting views, but they haven't yet acted on them in a way that harms another person.
crimsonheadGCN
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Roosh is probably wearing a wig because there was an anti-Roosh V protest earlier in the day with a few hundred people. He was asking people to fit in with these people and take pictures of them so that they could late be identified and their lives ruined.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
Reallllly? Got a source on that?
Emperor_EL
Member
Don't have a single tear to shed for the Rapist who got a beer poured on his head.
Good thing they left it at splashing him with drinks, shoving him out of the establishment, and just yelling at him then.
And as far as getting the wrong guy, the woman claims to have known exactly who it was. If she immediately reacted that way, that would be something else, but it wasn't. She spent time with him, tried to see what he'd try to pull.
In regards to him potentially lying about doing so? Well don't try to claim "glory" for a crime and not think you'll be treated like a criminal.
CrashSimonFaye
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Oh? Yeah, go ahead and point out where I did what you are claiming. I'll wait. Thanks!
Oh? Go ahead and explain why you feel that way and what I have said that makes you think that. I'll wait, thanks!You talk a lot about comprehension.
Bravo, champ, you're being modest, you know no one wants your crown. No run along and play with the other children that resorted to logical fallacies in lieu of producing anything worthwhile against those that didn't join their hivemind brigade.
*pinches cheek* so cute.
No one in this topic has agreed with anything this guy thinks.
KiwiLannister
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No they are not. Literally nobody in this thread thinks this guys opinions are okay. All they are saying is that assaulting the guy based on him being a crazy rapist is not the way to deal with things. If he is actually grooming someone for rape then get the cops involved and kick him out of the club. But don't assault him.
It is actually possible to disagree with the actions taken by the people in the bar while simultaneously hating the guy.
NoblesseOblige
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Not sure if it's what the other user was speaking of, but sounds close enough:
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?759042
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
His fans also wanted to ruin people's lives.
Roosh V urges his fans to infiltrate protests against him dressed as homosexual hipsters
PUA asshat Roosh V declares victory in Montreal, gets drink tossed in face
You are acting like they beat him up. He didn't even get punched
This guy is fucking dangerous. This shouldn't be a question.
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
Thanks for all the information! As I stated before and in light of the new information I am really surprised all that happened so far was a beer at his head.
Did you miss the several CrashSimonFaye posts that said exactly that, that they were just attacking for his opinions? CrashSimonFaye wasn't "just" disagreeing with the actions taken by the people in the bar, he actually spent the whole fucking thread claiming the reason for the actions of the people in the bar were just because of difference of opinions and nothing else.
And again with the "assault". Getting a drink thrown on your face and kicked out of a bar? That ain't fucking assault, much less considering what the fucker had in mind.
Oh fucking please, Faye. This isn't just some guy who believes the chicken came before the egg and everyone else thinks the opposite.
This is someone who not only believes in something that is explicitly harmful to other people, but actively pursues that shit. I would rather people like him get splashed with a hundred pints and thrown out the door than have him get his way with any of the women, even if he only gets to step 1 of his plan.
So let's be clear here - Roosh is not a victim. He is not getting attacked. He is getting what he deserves, and unlike rape, I'd say getting yelled at and alcohol to the face is damn appropriate, no more (okay, maybe a bit more) - no less in terms of civilian action. It's a lot better than whatever alternatives he had in store.
EDIT: Oh hey he's banned.
This is someone who not only believes in something that is explicitly harmful to other people, but actively pursues that shit. I would rather people like him get splashed with a hundred pints and thrown out the door than have him get his way with any of the women, even if he only gets to step 1 of his plan.
So let's be clear here - Roosh is not a victim. He is not getting attacked. He is getting what he deserves, and unlike rape, I'd say getting yelled at and alcohol to the face is damn appropriate, no more (okay, maybe a bit more) - no less in terms of civilian action. It's a lot better than whatever alternatives he had in store.
EDIT: Oh hey he's banned.
Shh! Don't screw with their narrative!
travisbickle
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I think they should make assault legal when commited in premises that serve alcohol. All we're doing by not making it legal is teaching men not to be cautious about being assaulted, and not take the easy precautions to not getting assaulted.
Jesus fuck, I don't know why I clicked the link.
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