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After watching the stream last night I gotta say, this game is really going to get on my nerves.

- Miller and Ocelot won't shut the fuck up.
- The idroid won't shut the fuck up.
- Snake shuts the fuck up except when he's on the horse.

C R E D I T S
--A F T E R--


Every Mission

Will Drive

Me Fucking








INSANE

You could skip the credits in Ground Zeroes. Just press the left bottom corner on the PS4 touchpad. They did that so it would feel more like a tv show, with each mission taking 15-25 minutes.

That's a shame about Ocelot and Kaz. They said they would address that after Kaz's endless lines in Ground Zeroes. The Eye and the Finger. Maybe there's an option these guys are missing.

Well i am somewhat glad i can't watch the streams of entirely uninteresting players.
I developed the skill to not want to watch average and or frustrating gameplay.

I really, really tried to watch some streams this week but I can't. These players, the ones I've seen, are so bad. I understand now why game developers have to put slow motion reflex mode and xray vision in stealth games now.

 

[cerulily]

I understand the issue, but at this point, I'll never understand why it becomes such an issue for people in MGS games. Fans should know that it's something that pops up in the series from time to time, and those who only watch the series from afar should know to just avoid it.

Because this series has done better, and become progressively worse about it.

the only thing I remember in 1 is meryl in her underwear, and I don't care because it's so primitive and straight-forward as to be a non issue.
MGS2 had some posters, but that's a male-workspace and I know that is not really that weird, and they're hidden.
MGS3 had a bond-esque femme fatal, which is appropriate to the tone of that game, and one of the most badass women in gaming, ever.

but somewhere along the line to MGS4 things started to get creepy, and out of character for the series.
The badguys became all hotties in skin-tight latex catsuits.
Or peace-walker's underage (looking) girl who you can have a date-mission where they're in their lingerie (that's just a bit skeevy)
and now quiet.

I think saying that this kind of thing has always been there is being revisionist.

 

[robotoboy20]

I really could spend a long time replying to this post, but I'm on a commute home. Why does my opinion on a character in a game effect you? If it bothers you, ignore it. Like you're telling me to do with Quiet.

I do not like Quiet. I don't like her design, I don't like the "reasons" for her design. I don't like Kojima explaining that there is a deep meaning to her design (there is not). I don't like the weird fecking exploitation of a female character they have going in the game.

I will call out sexist depictions of women in the media, thank you very much. I never said anything other than Quiet is making me reserved about buying the gam in that post.

Point - Missed.

Hideo is gone - fired... done. So the complaining about sexist depictions of an already established perverted nutjob game developer... that's not going to change anything. You could spend a long time replying and telling me how awful my opinion is, and how "uneducated" I am about the whole situation, and we could get down and pretentious to eachother all night long, but like you... I don't have the time or the will to argue with you about it.

 

[robotoboy20]

Because this series has done better, and become progressively worse about it.

Beauty and the Beast unit was sad - and not the way I think they intended them to be.

I think like one of the prior posters here that Tomokazu Fukushima leaving is what ruined the series. Hideo is just a perv... and that's annoying.

 

[Cronen]

Got my copy today. Just did the hospital and about to start Chapter 1.

Ishmael having Kiefer's voice makes things incredibly obvious. That, and Snake not saying a word in the whole prologue kinda makes you wonder if they're really trying to hide it.

Anyway, let's see how Afghanistan is!

 

[Megauap]

Has this been posted? It's an unboxing of the Collector's Edition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep8lMiu0k2o

 

[cerulily]

Has this been posted? It's an unboxing of the Collector's Edition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep8lMiu0k2o

Dawww that little baby hand~ <3

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Point - Missed.

Hideo is gone - fired... done. So the complaining about sexist depictions of an already established perverted nutjob game developer... that's not going to change anything. You could spend a long time replying and telling me how awful my opinion is, and how "uneducated" I am about the whole situation, and we could get down and pretentious to eachother all night long, but like you... I don't have the time or the will to argue with you about it.

No, I got the point. Didn't feel it was a very good one either. I don't like Quiet, get over it.

 

[dh4niel]

Dawww that little baby hand~ <3

Guess I was stupid to think the hand would be life size. :/

 

[V3n0m Sn4k3]

Just got to a new story section. Venom comes to a chop shop to save a child soldier, finds out skull face is experimenting on them and skull face see's venom. He says, burn with the rest of them, then mantis comes with volgin and starts burning the whole place down. Kaz says "get the fuck out of there!!" you run out of the building and try to find a way to stop mantis/volgin in order for it to become stunned from water to be able to call in a chopper and extract.

 

[robotoboy20]

No, I got the point. Didn't feel it was a very good one either. I don't like Quiet, get over it.

My point wasn't to "ignore" Quiet. My point was that whining about her isn't going to do jack shit, and many, MANY people have done so already. She's a stupid character - I agree. Why make it the sole reason to dislike the game?

 

[Lernaean]

No, I got the point. Didn't feel it was a very good one either. I don't like Quiet, get over it.

And most here don't care. Just saying.

 

[BlastKiller]

This thread needs more spoilerpics. normalmode where are you ?

 

[Furyous]

I'm not mad about the whole Quiet situation because it seems like the fault of one of the characters in the prologue. If whatever happens to her doesn't happen to her then maybe she's wearing her original outfit from the prologue.

Honestly, what's stopping BB from handing her a Diamond Dogs BDU? That would solve this debacle immediately.

Can someone tell me how much the wormhole fulton costs?

 

[TheZink]

I have a question for those of you who played the game.

My wife has serious issues with the character quiet and honestly I'm not a big fan of her either. Is it possible to a void her storyline in the game? If not how much of a large part does she play in the game?

Thanks guys.

 

[V3n0m Sn4k3]

I have a question for those of you who played the game.

My wife has serious issues with the character quiet and honestly I'm not a big fan of her either. Is it possible to a void her storyline in the game? If not how much of a large part does she play in the game?

Thanks guys.

Not sure but I think you can just not do the mission, yes. Mission 11 I believe,

 

[robotoboy20]

I'm not mad about the whole Quiet situation because it seems like the fault of one of the characters in the prologue. If whatever happens to her doesn't happen to her then maybe she's wearing her original outfit from the prologue.

Honestly, what's stopping BB from handing her a Diamond Dogs BDU? That would solve this debacle immediately.

Can someone tell me how much the wormhole fulton costs?

Well, it's still a really stupid reason to put in that outfit by default. Parasites? Photosynthesis? Really?

However you can in all actuality recruit women soldiers in this game, and have them stationed all over MB, with Quiet. and they're wearing normal military standard gear. So Quiet is the only woman on MB with that stupid outfit. The issue is that she's the only plot important and characterized female NPC (aside from Strangelove who gets crushed by fucking Huey) and she's shoved into a fan service costume. It's beyond dumb, and just for ogling... which is unnecessary, and that's not even taking into account that she's literally used as an assist character, and "doesn't talk out of respect for BB"

I don't think it's a reason to hate the game, but it's definitely a negative.

I have a question for those of you who played the game.

My wife has serious issues with the character quiet and honestly I'm not a big fan of her either. Is it possible to a void her storyline in the game? If not how much of a large part does she play in the game?

Thanks guys.

She's an entirely optional character.

 

[TheZink]

Not sure but I think you can just not do the mission, yes. Mission 11 I believe,

So it's possible to just skip certain missions? This is really a matter if I will actually play the game or not so i really do appreciate your info.

 

[Hands of Stone]

So it's possible to just skip certain missions? This is really a matter if I will actually play the game or not so i really do appreciate your info.

She bothers you that bad? Wow.

Like someone else said before she's optional.

Replaying GZ again, god the CQC is so much better than any other game. Throwing fools around never gets old.

 

[Lernaean]

So it's possible to just skip certain missions? This is really a matter if I will actually play the game or not so i really do appreciate your info.

Better not man. It's not for you.

 

[TheZink]

She bothers you that bad? Wow.

Like someone else said before she's optional.

Replaying GZ again, god the CQC is so much better than any other game. Throwing fools around never gets old.

If she's optional then it's not a worry.

 

[robotoboy20]

So it's possible to just skip certain missions? This is really a matter if I will actually play the game or not so i really do appreciate your info.

You should probably know that they depict child soldiers in this game... and that you may end up having to kill them. This game is pretty dark

 

[brau]

Better not man. It's not for you.

So to the point. Much honesty. Very hurtful.

 

[UrbanDandy]

Guess I was stupid to think the hand would be life size. :/

The JP Collector's Edition of the arm is life size, and costs more.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

I just finished the prologue and a little of the first mission.

It pains me to know that we will never get a survival horror game from Kojima now, because the beginning of MGS V was tense, full of thriller, and had some genuine creepy moments.

I am also really impressed by the graphics on the PS4. Some of them might look rough, and there is pop-in that is visible during travelling, but the lighting is really good. It also runs at full HD and 60 fps, which is really impressive for an open world game.

 

[Ishida]

I just finished the prologue and a little of the first mission.

It pains me to know that we will never get a survival horror game from Kojima now, because the beginning of MGS V was tense, full of thriller, and had some genuine creepy moments.

I am also really impressed by the graphics on the PS4. Some of them might look rough, and there is pop-in that is visible during travelling, but the lighting is really good. It also runs at full HD and 60 fps, which is really impressive for an open world game.

And this is a cross-gen game that was designed specifically for the last gen consoles.

Now cry, knowing that you will never see a Hideo Kojima-made Metal Gear that actually takes advantage of the new consoles.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Torture is fine, weapons are fine... but female body parts, oh my...

I don't mind Quiet. She's pretty cool in the prologue. She looks to be a good asset. I can do without the whole voyeurism thing (I guess i'm just too old for that), but fact is still there are far worse things being handled in this game. I'll dress her up as Wolf anyway.

 

[PeterLegend]

if this game was designed with next-gen hardware in mind I don't think it will run at 60fps in my opinion. So there is give and take.

 

[Darksol]

Any streams going on today? I hope last night's gaffer plays again. He's an absolute joy to watch.

And this is a cross-gen game that was designed specifically for the last gen consoles.

Now cry, knowing that you will never see a Hideo Kojima-made Metal Gear that actually takes advantage of the new consoles.

I hadn't thought about that

 

[Crossing Eden]

Torture is fine, weapons are fine... but female body parts, oh my...

Oh fuck this, WHO said that torture is fine? Please go back and point it out to me. Who specifically said that torture is fine yet has a problem with Quiet. This disingenuous "b-b-b-but the game has violence" shit comes up every time a sexist female character is criticized, as if there isn't a such thing as a strong female character who also isn't sexualized in violent media.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Oh fuck this, WHO said that torture is fine? Please go back and point it out to me.

I see less complaints about it. Much less in fact. Which just strikes me as odd, thats all.

 

[cerulily]

Torture is fine, weapons are fine... but female body parts, oh my...

I don't mind Quiet. She's pretty cool in the prologue. She looks to be a good asset. I can do without the whole voyeurism thing (I guess i'm just too old for that), but fact is still there are far worse things being handled in this game. I'll dress her up as Wolf anyway.

This is literally what everyone is constantly saying. Nobody is saying that "i'm cool with torture but not tits"

What people ARE saying is that, it's really out of place and pandering, and that is unfortunate.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Oh fuck this, WHO said that torture is fine? Please go back and point it out to me.

It's silent approval. Nobody objects against it, therefore people are fine with it. It's like how the status quo for the longest time was scantily clad woman, it wasn't until people started objecting it that people realized it wasn't ok.

 

[Coffee Dog]

So I accidentally clicked on /v/ instead of /vr/ and think I got a major twist (possibly "the" twist) spoiled for me. Confirmation from those who've kept up please?

Spoiler

post was, "reminder that some random chuckle fuck can be big boss with some face reconstruction"

This is literally what everyone is constantly saying. Nobody is saying that "i'm cool with torture but not tits"

What people ARE saying is that, it's really out of place and pandering, and that is unfortunate.

In what way is it out of place? It's metal gear.

You can argue that it's objectifying, yes, but quiet isn't worse than sniper wolf's tits hanging out for no reason .

 

[SkylineRKR]

This is literally what everyone is constantly saying. Nobody is saying that "i'm cool with torture but not tits"

What people ARE saying is that, it's really out of place and pandering, and that is unfortunate.

It is, but its there and its been in MGS1 already. I wouldn't complain about it.

I understand that some people feel misguided as Hideo promised Quiet was much deeper than that, but he ended up misleading everyone (so far things have been leaked). Which isn't the first time.

 

[V3n0m Sn4k3]

Just did a mission. Had to kill child soldiers.

 

[Revan]

Anyone see this yet?

http://mgsforums.com/topic/7764930/1/

According to the thread the final ending is part of a Day 1 patch - Mission 45 seems to be completely inaccessible.

Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Crossing Eden]

I see less complaints about it. Much less in fact. Which just strikes me as odd, thats all.

There are many threads where the discussion veered towards whether or not the game's portrayal of torture is acceptable or not.

It's silent approval. Nobody objects against it, therefore people are fine with it. It's like how the status quo for the longest time was scantily clad woman, it wasn't until people started objecting it that people realized it wasn't ok.

It's not silent approval, you can find plenty of people who object to both in equal measure.

 

[Shauni]

Just did a mission. Had to kill child soldiers.

They probably deserved it.

 

[V3n0m Sn4k3]

They probably deserved it.

Haha totally kidding. Mission fails if you kill a child.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

It's not silent approval, you can find plenty of people who object to both in equal measure.

I have not seen any such thing on GAF atleast, and it certainly wasn't equal disapproval for both. In discussions about MGSV, literally the biggest complaints are aimed towards Quiet. Nothing for child soldiers or torture. Hell, little to nothing about torturing Quiet. It's usually, mostly about Quiets dress.

 

[SkylineRKR]

I have not seen any such thing on GAF atleast, and it certainly wasn't disapproval for both equally. In discussions about MGSV, literally the biggest complaints are aimed towards Quiet. Nothing for child soldiers or torture. Hell, little to nothing about torturing Quiet. It's usually, mostly about Quiets dress.

This was what actually disturbed me the most in the trailer. She being tortured with electric shocks or burns or whatever it was. Or the guy being waterboarded.

But i'm glad this stuff is in, its the dirty side of war and games shouldn't censor this stuff. Its a grown up platform. Which, indeed, makes some stuff Hideo always puts in somewhat childish in comparison. But MGS is satire I guess.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

All the quiet stuff is really weird to me. I mean if your not bothered by it or see no problem with it, why get on peoples case that do?
I haven't play the game but from what I've seen from I think she's cool, at least design wise. If I see someone say it's "sexist" I'll listen to what they have to say and agree or disagree with it. That's it.

 

[News Bot]

It is, but its there and its been in MGS1 already. I wouldn't complain about it.

I understand that some people feel misguided as Hideo promised Quiet was much deeper than that, but he ended up misleading everyone (so far things have been leaked). Which isn't the first time.

It's not so much misleading as it is an outright lie.

 

[Shauni]

All the quiet stuff is really weird to me. I mean if your not bothered by it or see no problem with it, why get on peoples case that do?
I haven't play the game but from what I've seen from I think she's cool, at least design wise. If I see someone say it's "sexist" I'll listen to what they have to say and agree or disagree with it. That's it.

I think it's more a case, now, of people just constantly bringing it up and a lot of people just fatigued on the whole discussion.

 

[robotoboy20]

There are many threads where the discussion veered towards whether or not the game's portrayal of torture is acceptable or not.


It's not silent approval, you can find plenty of people who object to both in equal measure.

My issue with everything is this:

In past Metal Gear games the Violence was always been kind of on the goofy side, with light-ish violence. Sure the violence was there but it was always kind of silly. The torture was even silly - as the characters were usually buck naked strapped to some silly torture machine. Ocelot was essentially a sadist and a villain and not really meant to be empathized with.

I don't think you're supposed to like what you're doing in MGSV - it's supposed to be the depiction of a man becoming a horrible person... but everything in the game from what I've heard, and seen is handled FAAAAAR to casually to really represent it properly.

This game throws some really dark shit at you, because supposedly Kojima wanted to make a darker game with much deeper meaning, and gray area storytelling... but unfortunately goofiness, and darkness don't go hand in hand... and you can't tell a "mature story" and spin the tale in a "dark way" while including the ridiculously silly themes that MGS uses... It's like "You just killed a child soldier!" Fuck... I'm depressed now... "Hey boss, do you believe in Santa Claus?"

Really? See that's the inappropriateness I'm feeling from the whole thing. In GZ he deals with two kids, one is forced to have sex with other, and one child is gang raped by a group of soldiers. There is so much real life darkness, mixed with light-heartedness that the entire game feels likes it's relishing in it's sadism.

Now if you take into mind that Hideo has always tried to guilt the player about their enjoyment of murder, and horrible things that they do in these games... you get a different feeling about it. Hideo hates war, and is extremely anti-war... perhaps the goal is to make you feel uncomfortable... in sort of Japanese spec-ops kind of way. I don't know I haven't played MGSV yet, but I will... and after that I will determine how I feel. Past games have rewarded non-violent playthroughs, and in MGS4 if you kill enough people Snake vomits while he hears liquids voice saying "you relish the killing don't you?"

MGR dealt with violence, sociopathy as well as PTSD and dissociative personality disorder. Do they handle these things well? Nope, but then again Psychology is nearly non-existent in Japan.

 

[stufte]

It's be super awesome if we could get back to actual spoilers instead of stuff like Quiets attire and how offensive/not offensive it is which are not spoilers at all.

Has there been anything released about easter eggs found yet?

 

[SkylineRKR]

I could do without the Metal Gear'ish stuff in this game. How odd that may sound.

So the cardboard box jokes, the horseshit that topples a vehicle... that stuff could go for all I care. I am way past that stuff. I try to never use those gimmicks too.

In GZ it already starts with the mo cap, it looks way less goofy than MGS4. I for one appreciated how GZ went fully dark in those tapes. It also made me hate Skull Face, which in turn made him a good villain. I felt MG had grown up along with its audience.

 

[Lernaean]

So to the point. Much honesty. Very hurtful.

You totally missed an avatar quote opportunity though ;-)

 

[Igo]

It's not so much misleading as it is an outright lie.

Knew it was a lie the second we learned she's a sidekick character interchangeable with a dog and horse. She's fanservice and i'm fine with that.

First thing Kojima did was confirm she was fanservice so anything said to the contrary after that was just him looking to shut people up for a while.