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[ponpo]

http://webm.host/50aa5/vid.webm

Divine retribution, Huey.

 

[Iceternal]

That was the most anticlimatic ending ever.

Ending of the game ? Care to explain ?

 

[thabtoUK]

Did sti4thewin's channel get taken down, or is he just taking a break?

 

[SmartWaffles]

That's the thing, they technically are new missions (at least, that's how they're presented) but content-wise, they're identical to earlier missions, just with a more difficult "rule set". So, the story won't progress at all until you do them. You'll recognize them by their extra label:

- [EXTREME], which means very hard difficulty (and no Buddies, IIRC)
- [SUBSISTENCE], you get send in naked; weapons and items are all OSP (No Buddies, too)
- [PERFECT STEALTH], getting detected is an instant Game Over (no Reflex Mode either)

I struggled the most with Perfect Stealth (although DeeDee definitely helped me out there), especially as the missions with that label featured LOTS of soldiers. Subsistence was easily the most fun.

Fuck I'm not going to finish the game.

 

[Cow Goes Moo]

anyone else see the "alleged" data dump for the game? some of the dlc options are pretty gross, but I kind of expected it

 

[ponpo]

anyone else see the "alleged" data dump for the game? some of the dlc options are pretty gross, but I kind of expected it

Link

 

[Cow Goes Moo]

Link

its "happening" on /mgg/

 

[Screaming Meat]

EDIT:

OH SHIT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE FRICKIN IMPRESSIONS THREAD!

ARGH

 

[Mendrox]

its "happening" on /mgg/

mgg?

 

[ponpo]

PlayerType
SNAKE
DD_MALE
DD_FEMALE
LIQUID
AVATAR
PlayerCamoType
OLIVEDRAB
SPLITTER
SQUARE
TIGERSTRIPE
GOLDTIGER
FOXTROT
WOODLAND
WETWORK
ARBANGRAY
ARBANBLUE
SANDSTORM
REALTREE
INVISIBLE
BLACK
SNEAKING_SUIT_GZ
SNEAKING_SUIT_TPP
BATTLEDRESS
PARASITE
NAKED
LEATHER
SOLIDSNAKE
NINJA
RAIDEN
HOSPITAL
GOLD
SILVER
PANTHER
AVATAR_EDIT_MAN
MGS3
MGS3_NAKED
MGS3_SNEAKING
MGS3_TUXEDO
EVA_CLOSE
EVA_OPEN
BOSS_CLOSE
BOSS_OPEN
PlayerPartsType
NORMAL_SCARF
SNEAKING_SUIT
MGS1

WEAPON_ADAM_SKA_SP
WEAPON_WU_S333_CB_SP
WEAPON_MACHT_P5_WEISS
WEAPON_RASP_SB_SG_GOLD
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_SIL
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_OD
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_WHT
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_GLD
ITEM_CBOX_APD
ITEM_CBOX_RT
ITEM_CBOX_WET
ARM_GOLD
SUIT_FATIGUES_APD
SUIT_FATIGUES_GRAY_URBAN
SUIT_FATIGUES_BLUE_URBAN
SUIT_FATIGUES_BLACK_OCELOT
STAFF_STAFF1_FOX
STAFF_STAFF2_MSF
STAFF_STAFF3_DD
STAFF_STAFF4_FOX_HOUND
EMBLEM_FRONT_VENOM_SNAKE
SUIT_MGS3_NORMAL
SUIT_MGS3_NAKED
SUIT_MGS3_SNEAK
SUIT_MGS3_TUXEDO
SUIT_EVA
SUIT_THE_BOSS
HORSE_PARADE
HORSE_WESTERN
HORSE_RAGE_CONE

zawa

 

[Jamie OD]

Wait, were any of the rumors about Paz and someone else (people were saying Holly White I think) being clones of The Boss true? Like, it was a dealio similar to Les Infants Terribles.

That was fake. Good effort by whoever came up with it though, naming a unit after Joy Division sounded probable after Diamond Dogs.

 

[thabtoUK]

This video clearly shows that you have the same face before and after the avatar creator at the start of the game:

https://youtu.be/7uNlRMnPC44?t=12m7s

The streamer even makes an Asian avatar and we still see Venom's reflection ;-)

 

[213372bu]

Only read certain parts of the spoiler summary to get enough that I wanted without spoiling everything for myself...

But Quiet just leaves MB?

You can't use her on missions after she leaves?

She also just walks off into the desert?

Pretty lame.

Edit: Is there also a way to play as BB and have an Ishmael costume that removes the horns?

 

[Xiraiya]

zawa

...That's just outfits, like The GZ Suit you get by uploading a GZ save and the Sniper Wolf outfit you get for Quiet.
Is there suppose to be a problem here?

 

[ponpo]

...That's just outfits, like The GZ Suit you get by uploading a GZ save and the Sniper Wolf outfit you get for Quiet.
Is there suppose to be a problem here?

Okay, how do you get the MGS3 outfits listed?

Also download of the entire text dump of the game lol.

 

[Xiraiya]

Okay, how do you get the MGS3 outfits listed?
Also download of the entire text dump of the game lol.

I'm just pointing out that so far it's all novelty stuff, not some malicious agenda, people need to relax.
Text looks like it's from the Camp Omega revisit when you upload your save.

 

[ponpo]

I'm just pointing out that so far it's all novelty stuff, not some malicious agenda, people need to relax.
Text looks like it's from the Camp Omega revisit when you upload your save.

Yeah I just think the added outfits are nice, not outraged.

'4'Y(([C=13]What's up?$[C=16]About the 1972 project.
Les... Enfants... Terribles... $[C=13]You never did like the French.$[C=16]All that Catherine the Great aristocratic pompousness
gets to me, that's all. Palace talk... they can keep it.$[C=13]Les enfants terribles...
"the terrible children."$[C=16]That madness Zero started...
or the start of his madness.$[C=13]You found out something new?$[C=16]The plan itself was abandoned in '76.$[C=16]ATGC dismantled the project, and
their account with DARPA was closed. $[C=16]So I was worried about what happened to you- $Your sons.$[C=13]They're no sons of mine -
and they're sure as hell not me.$[C=16]Just a bunch of cells grown in a lab?$[C=13]What they are is much sicker than that.$[C=16]Well, Zero doesn't think so. EVA doesn't either.$[C=16]To them, those boys are your clones -
they're you, down to the last hair.$[C=13]And?$[C=16]The first boys were raised... $"free range," like we thought.$[C=16]Both of them.$[C=16]David has never left the States.$[C=16]But the other, Eli, has disappeared.$[C=16]Might as well call it "abandoned" - they're through with him.$[C=13]Where is he?$[C=16]He was in England, Zero's home ground.$[C=16]Apparently he traveled to Africa after that, but...$[C=16]That's where he escaped from Zero's care.$[C=13]Just like that? $Why?$[C=16]Who knows? Maybe he found out about his "birth."$[C=16]If he's alive, he'd be 11 or 12 by now.

If the Boss has some plan, what is it?
The real Big Boss is working separately
from us, to create his new nation.
New nation...?
He's building the true "Outer Heaven."
Something created to maintain world balance.
Independent of the struggles for supremacy,
for personal profit,$the cycles of revenge between countries.
It'll be an army all right, but more.
Big Boss is building a nation.
But until it's complete, we support the other Big Boss.
The phantom who carries on his legend... his meme.
That, is Big Boss's plan.
So that's the way it is.

welp

 

[thabtoUK]

Okay, how do you get the MGS3 outfits listed?

Also download of the entire text dump of the game lol.

Can you post the link to where you got this from?

 

[ponpo]

https://mega.nz/#!95kniYDZ!rcAjiibYT3i-ThcpV6mKZmTnVRnuiEXf8qaabmEY9xo

 

[Sub_Level]

zawa

So the bottom is shit noone cares about and is DLC while the top has the awesome outfits already in the game.

 

[Crossing Eden]

MGS3
MGS3_NAKED
MGS3_SNEAKING

Excellent if real.

 

[thabtoUK]

https://mega.nz/#!95kniYDZ!rcAjiibYT3i-ThcpV6mKZmTnVRnuiEXf8qaabmEY9xo

I've just found the end reveal where Punished "Venom" Snake is listening to the tape from Big Boss.

I think it's way too long to post here, but if you search "bike" you'll find it ;-)

 

[ponpo]

What was it all for...
If the Boss has some plan, what is it?
The real Big Boss is working separately
from us, to create his new nation.
New nation...?
He's building the true "Outer Heaven."
Something created to maintain world balance.
Independent of the struggles for supremacy,
for personal profit,$the cycles of revenge between countries.
It'll be an army all right, but more.
Big Boss is building a nation.
But until it's complete, we support the other Big Boss.
The phantom who carries on his legend... his meme.
That, is Big Boss's plan.
So that's the way it is.
... 9 years ago, I thought everything had been taken from me.
But now, I really have lost it all.
The Boss, and the future we were building together.
One day, the age of Big Boss's sons will arrive.
They'll likely want to settle the score with him.
We have to shape that age. We'll each have roles to play.
Building the foundation for a revolution led by
both Big Bosses - the true one, and the phantom.
No...
Big Boss can go to hell.
I'll make the phantom and his sons stronger,
to send him there.
For that... I'll keep playing my role.
Huh. You know...
Sooner or later there will be only one Boss.
There's only room for one Boss.
His sons are fated to face each other someday too.
If the day ever comes that you go back to Cipher,
I'll aid the other son.
And then you and I will be enemies, too.
One of us will have to kill the other.
Fine by me.
I'll be ready for the new age.
Until then, we'd better get used to coexisting

I guess Ocelot ended up killing Kaz lol.

 

[Dug]

Boss.$[C=16]How are you back on your feet so quickly?$[C=13] It's a non-smoking ward.$[C=16]Boss... $[C=13]If I listened to everything the doctors
said, I'd probably die in here.$[C=13]No point waking up after nine years for that.$[C=16]... Well, having you out of that
bed makes things a little easier.$[C=13]Bad news, huh?$[C=16]Things are looking worse.$[C=13]Go on.$[C=16]They found out. About you waking up.$[C=16]And the man on fire picked this time to wake up too.$[C=16]We'll have to move forward ahead of schedule.$[C=16]Miller already has the preparations underway.$[C=16]We'll have to wake up your "neighbor," too.$[C=13] So he's not- $He seems awake now.$[C=16]No - $well, he's not actively conscious yet at least.$[C=13]He was a doctor too.$[C=16]In his mind, that past no longer exists.$[C=16]Your past is his past now.$[C=16]He's going to be your phantom.$[C=16]Not some simple diversion - $he'll act as the new Big Boss.$[C=16]And the act isn't just for Cipher - $he'll be your face on the world stage.
Until the time comes for your resurgence. $[C=13]You make it sound easy.$[C=16]We've been busy over the last nine years.$[C=16]His altered state of consciousness has helped us implant
powerful suggestions through induced hypnagogia. $He's experienced all your missions on record,
and shares all your knowledge and experience.$[C=16]To make him believe that he is the one true Big Boss.$[C=16]No one around him will doubt
that he's the Big Boss they know.$[C=16]So is he the real Big Boss, or a stand-in?
What does that mean to him? $Nothing. $[C=16]The human brain is capable of many illusions. $Of pain, of the future.$[C=16]What happens from here depends on his skill. $But you can vouch for that.$[C=13]He was always the best man we had. $But... $[C=16]Nine years ago, in that helicopter, he
threw himself between you and the blast. $[C=16]In that moment, the man you knew died...$[C=16]

He died protecting you, $and now, by becoming you, $he protects you again.$[C=16]This is just a detour in his
journey to Hell. And don't forget - $it's what he wanted. $[C=16]He's in his Dog Days now.$[C=13] $[C=16]It's not just him. $We'll be putting the people in
this hospital in the line of fire. $They'll be your shield, and a necessary
diversion. To buy us some time.$[C=13]And you?$[C=16]I'll be right by his side.$[C=13]Can you keep it up? $It's a hell of a lie.$[C=16]It won't be a lie. I won't know his secret either.$[C=13] $[C=16]I'll believe that he's the real Big Boss.
I'll have no conscious knowledge of you - $where's the lie in that?$[C=13]Self-hypnosis?$[C=16]It's nothing new in my line of work.
Manipulating memories... the past. $But that's not all.$[C=16]When the time is right, I need to
remember that you're the real Boss. $In the world, it's doublethink.$[C=13]In this year? $[C=16]Two plus two equals five.$[C=16]And I want you to do the same.$[C=13]Right - his bodyguard.$[C=16]Correct. $It won't be long before this hospital comes under attack.$[C=16]We'll wake him up right away, but he
won't be back to full health in time.$[C=16]You'll need to take him through his final paces.$[C=13]Yeah... $I want to see his face again.$[C=16]All right... John. $I've never forgotten you in these
nine years, but I have to forget you now.$[C=13]Adam, $I'm counting on you.

Guess this is the mission 46 dialogue.

 

[thabtoUK]

V[C=17][L=gr]He's in no condition for plastic surgery.$[C=21][L=gr]Someone surely already knows he's awake.$[L=gr]He's in great danger - we must act now!$[C=21][L=gr]Prep for surgery!$[C=21][L=gr]This is ridiculous...!$[C=21]It's true. there are those who wish
you would have never woken up.$[C=21]You should be dead. But you're not. $The wheels are in motion. $Your enemies are everywhere.
We must alter your appearance immediately.$[C=21]Otherwise, I fear you won't leave this place alive.$[C=21]It's a wide open world out there, so there's
something we need to take care of first.$[C=21]This is you - as you've lived until this day.$[C=21]I'm going to change your appearance -
we've no other choice.
B.P.'s dropping!
XI'll handle the rest.
How's he doing?!
From here on out, $you're Big Boss.
What about him?!
X That's your name as of today.
I'm Big Boss, and you are, too...
XFrom here on, he's "Snake." $He believes it too.
XClear!
You have, too - $you've written your own history.
Intubate! Now!
XUse that bike. $It's tuned up and ready to go.
I'm going to change your appearance -
we've no other choice.
X My very own phantom, huh...
Thank you... my friend.
XHere.
Carry that with you, wherever you go.
XYou best change your face, too.
Clear!
Well, he's stabilized, $but it took too long...$he's in a coma.
XRight.
I cheated death, thanks to you.
XBoss, the whole world wants your head.
This story - this "legend" - it's ours.
XThis way, Boss. Hurry.
I am you, and you are me.
Everything feels alright?
Where we are, today? We built it.
XNo response! Hit him again!
[C=15]Don't you die on me, damn it!$[C=19]B.P.'s dropping!$[C=18]Intubate! Now!$[C=18]Cardiac arrest! He's in V-Fib !$[C=19]Clear!$[C=18]No response! Hit him again!$[C=19]Clear!$[C=15]How's he doing?!$[C=18]Well, he's stabilized, $but it took too long...$he's in a coma.$[C=15]What about him?!$[C=18]He... $He took some shrapnel - $to the head...
We can change the world - and with it, the future.
XThis one - $he'll take your place.
+U, ,P,
[C=16]This way, Boss. Hurry.$[C=16]Use that bike. $It's tuned up and ready to go.$[C=16]I'll handle the rest. $[C=16]Here.$[C=16] That's your name as of today.$[C=16]You best change your face, too.$[C=16]This one - $he'll take your place.$[C=16]From here on, he's "Snake." $He believes it too.$[C=13] My very own phantom, huh...$[C=16]Boss, the whole world wants your head.$[C=16]Don't worry. He can handle it. $Move now, quickly. $[C=13] Aren't you forgetting something?$[C=13]We'll meet again.$[C=16]Right.
[C=21]Very good. Now, let's remove these bandages.$[C=21]Your face has healed nicely. $To tell you the truth, these bandages
were more for your protection - $to hide you from those who want you dead.$[C=21]As of today, your name is Ahab. $Forget everything. Your name, your past.$[C=21]Everything feels alright?
Don't you die on me, damn it!
Cardiac arrest! He's in V-Fib !
Now do you remember?$Who you are?$What you were meant to do?
XWe'll meet again.
XDon't worry. He can handle it. $Move now, quickly.
I'm on your side!
X Aren't you forgetting something?
XGet on!
[C=21]Please try to relax. $There is plenty of time.$[C=21]I need to tell you something. $Please listen, and try not to panic.$[C=21]You've been in a coma for... quite some time.$[C=21]Yes yes, I know. You'd like to know how long...$[C=21]I'm afraid it's been $nine years.$[C=21]Damn it!$[C=21][L=gr]Nurse! $[L=gr]Nurse! $[L=gr]Nurse!$[C=21]Nurse!$[C=21]Calm down! $Calm down!$[C=21]Try not to panic!$[C=21][L=gr]Help me!$[C=21]Try not to panic.$[C=21]Now then...$[C=21]You'll be alright.$[C=21]There now.$[C=21]Just rest.
No... $He's the two of us. Together.
586w6
[C=12] $[C=39]No time for anesthetic. We have to open her now.$[C=13]Noooooooo!!$[C=39]Boss! $[C=13]Now do you remember?$Who you are?$What you were meant to do?$[C=13]I cheated death, thanks to you.$[C=13]And thanks to you, I've left my mark.$[C=13]You have, too - $you've written your own history.$[C=13]You're your own man.$[C=13]I'm Big Boss, and you are, too... $[C=13] No... $He's the two of us. Together.$[C=13]Where we are, today? We built it.$[C=13]This story - this "legend" - it's ours.$[C=13]We can change the world - and with it, the future.$[C=13]I am you, and you are me.$[C=13]Carry that with you, wherever you go. $[C=13]Thank you... my friend.$[C=13]From here on out, $you're Big Boss.
586w6

Well, there it is.

 

[Sub_Level]

Would Venom and Raiden have a beer together, gaf? Talk about their existential crisis?

 

[thabtoUK]

I guess Ocelot ended up killing Kaz lol.

Sounds like Diamond split into two factions, with Ocelot following the real Big Boss and Kaz following "The Phantom" Big Boss.

Or is it the other way around? ;-)

 

[mgs2master2]

So question, anyone find quiet yet?

 

[Sub_Level]

Sounds like Diamond split into two factions, with Ocelot following the real Big Boss and Kazz following "The Phantom" Big Boss.

Or is it the other way around? ;-)

Ocelot supports Liquid. Kaz supports Solid.

Kaz won in the end.

 

[Dawg]

After playing this game for a while, I can finally confirm... Chico is Quiet.

And with Quiet, I mean

Spoiler

he's dead, at least according to this tape I just listened to.

 

[SictorVullivan]

So now that Venom is Big Boss, why is it that they make it so seemingly obvious in the game? Not saying it's a double ruse, but why make it so obvious?

EDIT: Medic is Big Boss, not Venom!

 

[thabtoUK]

Ocelot supports Liquid. Kaz supports Solid.

Kaz won in the end.

Ha, I got that completely wrong ;-)

And a search for "Solid Snake" yielded zero results :-(

 

[Sub_Level]

So now that Venom is Big Boss, why is it that they make it so seemingly obvious in the game? Not saying it's a double ruse, but why make it so obvious?

People were vehemently denying it in this very thread. I dont think its that obvious.

 

[SictorVullivan]

People were vehemently denying it in this very thread. I dont think its that obvious.

What about the stuff about the Boss's AI not recognising Big Boss as Big Boss? Surely thats a complete giveaway?

 

[Sub_Level]

Ha, I got that completely wrong ;-)

And a search for "Solid Snake" yielded zero results :-(

Yeah in the text dump he is just referred to as one of "the sons". Its during a convo Kaz has with Ocelot

 

[ponpo]

So now that Venom is Big Boss, why is it that they make it so seemingly obvious in the game? Not saying it's a double ruse, but why make it so obvious?

What text are you reading? "Venom is Big Boss" sounds like the opposite of what's written here.

 

[Mifec]

Guys if I die before my time, please carry on my memes.

 

[SictorVullivan]

What text are you reading? "Venom is Big Boss" sounds like the opposite of what's written here.

Sorry I meant that as to mean "Medic impersonating Big Boss". Medic as fake BB sounds better...

 

[Mendrox]

So now that Venom is Big Boss, why is it that they make it so seemingly obvious in the game? Not saying it's a double ruse, but why make it so obvious?

Because not everyone opens their eyes to games all the time. People that don't really realize what they are doing are in for a treat. Simple as that.

 

[Sub_Level]

What about the stuff about the Boss's AI not recognising Big Boss as Big Boss? Surely thats a complete giveaway?

I didnt see or read that scene. That is a huge hint for sure.

I guess the idea is to feee the player bones. For people not readin these spoilers, it will give them quite a shock.

 

[ponpo]

Sorry I meant that as to mean "Medic impersonating Big Boss". Maybe Medic as fake BB sounds better?

Maybe. Definitely the Medic, btw.

We'll have to wake up your "neighbor," too.$[C=13] So he's not- $He seems awake now.$[C=16]No - $well, he's not actively conscious yet at least.$[C=13]He was a doctor too.$[C=16]In his mind, that past no longer exists.

 

[thabtoUK]

Sorry I meant that as to mean "Medic impersonating Big Boss". Maybe Medic as fake BB sounds better?

Maybe best to refer to the fake Big Boss as "The Phantom" or Punished "Venom" Snake to avoid confusion ;-)

 

[SictorVullivan]

Oh well, even if the story is completely stupid, still going to enjoy the game on the gameplay and actually seeing all this crazy stuff play out.

 

[Spainkiller]

Can't wait to see what salty MS Paint images the 4chan people will come up with now that it's finally confirmed. #toldyouso

 

[ponpo]

Some stuff still doesn't make sense to me though. Kaz says he's going with Venom and the clone sons and Ocelot goes with Big Boss, but it seems like Solid kills Venom in MG1, not the real Big Boss.

 

[SictorVullivan]

As a secondary point, do we know all the criteria yet for seeing all the extra ending stuff?

 

[Crossing Eden]

Can't wait to see what salty MS Paint images the 4chan people will come up with now that it's finally confirmed. #toldyouso

Spainkiller
the man who sold the world

 

[Sub_Level]

Some stuff still doesn't make sense to me though. Kaz says he's going with Venom and the clone sons and Ocelot goes with Big Boss, but it seems like Solid kills Venom in MG1, not the real Big Boss.

Miller does not help Solid fight Venom. Solid is led there by BB, likely manipulated.

Against BB? Miller helps Solid.

Also Ocelot implies he will take care of Liquid.

 

[theSecondAgent]

Anyone ordered the LE from Game.co.uk? Got my confirmation Wednesday about my copy being shipped. Should only take 1-2 days from my house. Got a email today about a delivery confirmation for September 1st, which suggests they are holding back my parcel.

Anyone else got this? If it was the standard game, I am sure I would have gotten it early.

 

[Eien1no1Yami]

So do we get to see Solid Snake as a kid or only Liquid?
Is he appearing only on dialogue, just his name or he himsellf too?