Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER

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The issues in dispute had nothing to do with Dudley.

The issues in dispute were more about interpretation and theories, not factual yes-or-no questions. I was a regular follower of the thread.
Regardless, there's currently no evidence of that Dudley concept art actually existing.
 
Jesus I meant to type American white and it gets blown up like this ^^ . Yet everything else I posted gets ignored.

American means white.

Yes it does , and every dark skinned character is Black. There are no other dark-skinned races in the world. Just like how all white-skinned people are White.

His unbleached dark eyebrows are the dead giveaway yo! Well, that and his perfect Japanese.

Well everyone in SF has perfect Japanese lmao :P
 
You guys are giving waaaaaaay to much credit to the Japanese developers of 16 years ago if you think they'd bother to make an English Indian character.

Many fall prey to the same stereotypes you see in stuff like anime:

All westerners are blonds (occasionally blue eyes) if they're white, or they're black.

All black/foreign dark skinned women have white/light (usually straight) hair.

All Japanese characters have black hair. I suppose R. Mika is the weird exception to this.

Occam's Razor tells me it's far faaaar more likely that Dudley is just meant to be a black Englishman.
 
You guys are giving waaaaaaay to much credit to the Japanese developers of 16 years ago if you think they'd bother to make an English Indian character.

Many fall prey to the same stereotypes you see in stuff like anime:

All westerners are blonds (occasionally blue eyes) if they're white, or they're black.

All black/foreign dark skinned women have white/light (usually straight) hair.

All Japanese characters have black hair. I suppose R. Mika is the weird exception to this.

Occam's Razor tells me it's far faaaar more likely that Dudley is just meant to be a black Englishman.
This is what I'm saying. Sf characters are so predicated on stereotypes that it's hard to believe otherwise. You have to look from the myopic viewpoint of Japanese devs/anime culture. There caricatures are so on the nose that it's funny.
 
You guys are giving waaaaaaay to much credit to the Japanese developers of 16 years ago if you think they'd bother to make an English Indian character.

Many fall prey to the same stereotypes you see in stuff like anime:

All westerners are blonds (occasionally blue eyes) if they're white, or they're black.

All black/foreign dark skinned women have white/light (usually straight) hair.

All Japanese characters have black hair. I suppose R. Mika is the weird exception to this.

Occam's Razor tells me it's far faaaar more likely that Dudley is just meant to be a black Englishman.

I do agree with you , I dont think Capcom would have bothered. But I just find the hostility towards thinking otherwise uncalled for.
 
This is what I'm saying. Sf characters are so predicated on stereotypes that it's hard to believe otherwise. You have to look from the myopic viewpoint of Japanese devs/anime culture. There caricatures are so on the nose that it's funny.

Capcom likes to... "exaggerate" its black characters like Balrog and Birdie, but Dudley looks more like Dhalsim facially.

I fully accept Balrog, Dee Jay, Birdie, Sean, and Elena as black characters. I just don’t think Dudley is black. That’s one character out of six. It’s not some kind of racist conspiracy or anything.

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I just realized we have 10 of the 16 initial roster spots filled right now. That's...nuts.
That & we may already know the remaining 6. It's kind weird how leaks both ruin & strengthen the anticipation. I want to see if the leaks were truly right, as Ono could always have a trump card. But at the same time, it's kinda disheartening to have the surprise ruined.
 
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The likelyhood?
 
You guys are giving waaaaaaay to much credit to the Japanese developers of 16 years ago if you think they'd bother to make an English Indian character.

Many fall prey to the same stereotypes you see in stuff like anime:

All westerners are blonds (occasionally blue eyes) if they're white, or they're black.

All black/foreign dark skinned women have white/light (usually straight) hair.

All Japanese characters have black hair. I suppose R. Mika is the weird exception to this.

Occam's Razor tells me it's far faaaar more likely that Dudley is just meant to be a black Englishman.

On Dudley - wasn't he partially based on Chris Eubank, like boxer was based on Tyson? Eubank was a big boxer at the time of SF3, and his whole schtick was that he was an 'English gentleman' type... he'd parade around in Rolls Royces wearing monocles, top hats, waistcoats, braces and tweed. He speaks with a lisp and a really typical posh British accent. I read somewhere that he was inspiration for Dudley, and, to be honest, the fit seems pretty uncanny, as does the timing, as Eubank was middleweight & later super-middleweight champion right around the time that SF3 was being made.

Anyway - if the above is true, Eubank is Black British... I really always assumed Dudley was the same.
 
A relatively safe bet for DLC if Karin's in the base roster. Hopefully they do age up Sakura.

Well, i think its a lock she gets her canon older design as shown there, i'm just wondering when the reveal will be.
 
people are going to be so mad when Sakura returns and looks the exact same as always lol

It would be a little frustrating , if only because she has a canonical design as a Gym teacher (that makes perfect sense) instead of dressing a 25 year old up in a middle school uniform. Any things possible though , I'm still surprised they actually changed the way Ken looks so much.
 
Well, i think its a lock she gets her canon older design as shown there, i'm just wondering when the reveal will be.
Post-launch. Siliconera & Ken Bogard pretty much spoiled the remainder of the roster. So unless Ono throws a curveball, we already know who's in the game Day 1.
 
people are going to be so mad when Sakura returns and looks the exact same as always lol

I would take an avatar bet over her SF5 design being her canon older design.

Post-launch. Siliconera & Ken Bogard pretty much spoiled the remainder of the roster. So unless Ono throws a curveball, we already know who's in the game Day 1.

My main concern is what does that mean for the story mode? Is it just the base roster in the story? That would suck considering Sakura should have been feeling the effects of Satsui no Hadou by now
 
I would take an avatar bet over her SF5 design being her canon older design.



My main concern is what does that mean for the story mode? Is it just the base roster in the story? That would suck considering Sakura should have been feeling the effects of Satsui no Hadou by now
We'll likely get some of the early DLC characters in Story Mode, since 16 characters isn't exactly enough for Story Mode.
 
I would take an avatar bet over her SF5 design being her canon older design.



My main concern is what does that mean for the story mode? Is it just the base roster in the story? That would suck considering Sakura should have been feeling the effects of Satsui no Hadou by now
Doubt it since story has more emphasis this time around and guile hasn't been announced (probably saving that for the future). Guile is the one whose been looking for nash all this time. Also I really doubt sak would succumb to satsui no hadou, I don't think she has that level of importance. She's a glorified ryu fangirl. And ryu's story has been stagnant, seemingly going nowhere.
 
My main concern is what does that mean for the story mode? Is it just the base roster in the story? That would suck considering Sakura should have been feeling the effects of Satsui no Hadou by now

It's looking more and more like the story doesn't revolve around the core cast. I'm expecting a lot of characters not in the initial 16 to pop up in whatever story stuff they have planned.

I'm also starting to think the disc content might be on the lighter side.
 
Doubt it since story has more emphasis this time around and guile hasn't been announced (probably saving that for the future). Guile is the one whose been looking for nash all this time. Also I really doubt sak would succumb to satsui no hadou, I don't think she has that level of importance. She's a glorified ryu fangirl. And ryu's story has been stagnant, seemingly going nowhere.
And more evil variants of characters aren't needed... I like how with Nash Capcom made more of a Frankenstein Monster character with questionable motives then Evil Nash ( or shadow Nash I guess?). At least now Guile will get a third special move lol... I wonder what his v-skill will be...
 
Doubt it since story has more emphasis this time around and guile hasn't been announced (probably saving that for the future). Guile is the one whose been looking for nash all this time. Also I really doubt sak would succumb to satsui no hadou, I don't think she has that level of importance. She's a glorified ryu fangirl. And ryu's story has been stagnant, seemingly going nowhere.

Ryu's story now will probably be him just wandering in on Bison's fuckery and saving the day by just being there.
 
Ah nice, didn't know that. Only saw the outfit in that ending.

That's where they got that design from, yes.

That's what makes it so frustrating as a Sakura fan having to constantly refer back to her 16 year old schoolgirl design when she's had a legitimate older 23 year old design for almost 20 years
 
so for the final 16 roster you have 8 core world warriors from SF2 then you have the 4 new guys and it looks like the last 4 are all from alpha? nash birdie mika and i assume another alpha character?

so that leaves out all 3rd strike and SF4 at the start later to be added as paid DLC... so much for juri :(
 
That's where they got that design from, yes.

That's what makes it so frustrating as a Sakura fan having to constantly refer back to her 16 year old schoolgirl design when she's had a legitimate older 23 year old design for almost 20 years

So is that story in the manga canon? Or did they retcon that by having that one scene in the ending of her?

so for the final 16 roster you have 8 core world warriors from SF2 then you have the 4 new guys and it looks like the last 4 are all from alpha? nash birdie mika and i assume another alpha character?

so that leaves out all 3rd strike and SF4 at the start later to be added as paid DLC... so much for juri :(

No, the 8 are from numbered SF games. So that includes SFIII as well.

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No, the 8 are from numbered SF games. So that includes SFIII as well.

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Yeah, that's the way I see it. I still think Urien's a Bonus Boss that'll get added to the actual roster down the road, and that Juri will be on the default roster instead (She's way too popular to just ditch like that). But that's how I think they meant to organize it, too.
 
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