MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Bad time management. The episode director is one of Toei's best. Toei has a union so in a way they are way ahead of other studios but it can just be chalked up to poor scheduling.
Will Dragon Ball Super be re-animated?
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Bad time management. The episode director is one of Toei's best. Toei has a union so in a way they are way ahead of other studios but it can just be chalked up to poor scheduling.
They ran out of time
It's a couple frames in a subpar episode
It's not the end of the world
Fuck there's probably about over a hundred One Piece episodes that have the quality of that one episode of Super yet you don't see the fans throwing a hissy fit every other day
*not a cheap cash-in
That's a beautiful background.
KillerMan91
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All long running Shonen shows have episodes that look like shit. That is the nature of animating billion episodes a year.
JadedWriter
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I guess so, my perspective on certain things make no damn sense lol. Either way Toei jacked her melon up.
Werewolf Jones
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Doesn't help much to post video that looks like it was run through a donkey's asshole first.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Backgrounds are re-used/done by different studios frequently so in bad looking shows/episodes they can still shine through.
*lights the duckroll signal*
WB is probably one of the easiest shows to flagship how much production issues can fuck a show up.
Amentallica
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I mean, with shit that terribly drawn, I visual the animators boxed in a room with a single light bulb, drowning in their own sweat as they try to animate this shit as quickly as possible.
XiaNaphryz
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There was some really TERRIBLE episodes in original DBZ in terms of animation quality. Some were amongst the worst I can recall ever seeing in an episodic TV show.
this can't be real.. can it?
blackdevil
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yes i remember an episode on Punk Hazard. They are in a cave and Luffy is sooooooo badly drawn i couldnt believe it. His Straw Hat was HUGE and his face was so tiny. I dont know what episode it was .
Werewolf Jones
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Everything about SMC is bad, at least Dragon Ball transitioned well over the years. That "closer to the manga look" though for SMC, GOD DAMN.
i stopped the one piece anime due to the unbearable pacing and bad animation
literally unwatchable
at this point, I'm enjoying toyotaro's manga adaptation of super more than the show itself, too.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I mean, even the bad episode of Super people like to keep bringing up still had this:
Which looks decent comparatively.
ADVANCED FIGHTING TECHNIQUES
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Super has had some bad animation, but stuff like this isn't fair. You can't just focus in on a character that originally appears 1cm in height on the screen and blow it up and complain about it. Post the entire frame of animation.
Rockman Wright
Banned
in every good animation if you stop a some random moment it looks ugly, but when animated it looks fine, but yeah this episode was particulary low standards
but it happen, later episode were better fortunately
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
DB fights have always been kind of poor tbh, lol
Episode 5 looks pretty bad in motion as well, as if it's missing a bunch of frames.
Davey Cakes
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Holy shit, these threads are always the same.
Agree to disagree folks, until you come up with a solid metric for the decline in quality (or consistency) since the original DBZ.
Otherwise it just seems like a bickering game between those who don't want to open their eyes and those who are wearing rose-tinted glasses.
Agree to disagree folks, until you come up with a solid metric for the decline in quality (or consistency) since the original DBZ.
Otherwise it just seems like a bickering game between those who don't want to open their eyes and those who are wearing rose-tinted glasses.
PeakPointMatrix
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I mean, even the bad episode of Super people like to keep bringing up still had this:
Which looks decent comparatively.
no but look at this extremely distant in-between drawing of goku from one episode from a handful of scenes tho looooooool
*most
I don't remember any particular awful looking episodes of HxH. Show's pretty damn consistent.
Fuck it just give DBZ to MADHOUSE nobody seems to like Toei anyway.
Even funnier that people are comparing Super ep 5 to DBZ ep 100+ whatever. It only took a few eps for Super to go to shit in the animation/art. Toei is just really cheap with their budgets for this past decade or so. At least in the 90's they put some budget in their popular shows, Sailor Moon remake looks like straight up trash, like an ep was made in a day or two.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
HxH was extremely consistent, yeah. Pretty impressive.
Hunter x Hunter is a miracle. It's easily the best looking long running show I've ever seen. Very much the exception to the rule though.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yu Yu Hakusho might have looked better then HxH, Togashi lucked out. Urusei Yatsura also looks pretty good but I haven't watched that
onepiecefan
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Those DB Super screens are seriously unbelievable.
YYH does have some very good looking episodes. I don't think it's as consistent as HxH though.
Hajime no Ippo would be up there too. Another Madhouse show.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The art and animation went back to the quality of the previous episodes immediately after episode 5 and episode 10 looks great.
More studios should be held up to MADHOUSE standard.
Werewolf Jones
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Sibersk Esto
Banned
Yeah but the manga was some masterclass shit
That paneling, that consistency. So easy to follow. You could see the entire fight play out just by looking at Vegeta's arms.
Toriyama was the best in the game, even better than most now.
The animation & the characters are horribly drawn.
(see below for a screencap)
.... I haven't watched, is this real? Or am I just stupid/gullible?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah the manga for DB is really good, I love it dearly.
Way to miss the point.
The point is that half* of DBZ's episodes looked like shit but people seem to have forgotten. No one calls DBZ a "cheap cash in rush job", yet DBS is one apparently.
*hyperbole
Is straight up unbelievable.
The power of the Philips CD-i.
Ganzlinger
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One of the things that turned me away from Crystal is that freaking head look. Glad that they fixed it for the Blu-ray.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
From what I understand and I am not a Sailor Moon fan, Crystal wasn't even really a good show if you looked past how it looked. I wouldn't say the same for Super.
machemachete
Banned
ITT: Watching anime after a long-ass time
They will improve some stuff for the BD releases as usual and take note that DB Super is a low budget project aimed to sell some toys to the west.
They will improve some stuff for the BD releases as usual and take note that DB Super is a low budget project aimed to sell some toys to the west.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Poor animation is not uncommon in shounen. Occasionally you will get outstanding animation which has not happened with DBS so far.
Werewolf Jones
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Looking at Toei's previous track record it's never gonna happen for DB period. Unless someone wants to prove me wrong? I don't know shit about the movies so there might be something amongst them maybe.
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