Ryder had his shot at the US title actually. It's a fun match though easily the least competitive of the entire Open challenge. Kane had the second worst outing.
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Ryder had his shot at the US title actually. It's a fun match though easily the least competitive of the entire Open challenge. Kane had the second worst outing.
I saw a lot of people clamoring for Bálor in that spot.
Yes, lets put our barely 6" indie darling that could conceivably carry the company someday straight into a feud with a 6"8 monster. Vince would love that! Honestly apart from The Rock, I can't think of someone viable and realistic in that position that isn't a disappointment.
Yes, lets put our barely 6" indie darling that could conceivably carry the company someday straight into a feud with a 6"8 monster. Vince would love that! Honestly apart from The Rock, I can't think of someone viable and realistic in that position that isn't a disappointment.
Wait wait wait. It's not Warrior's fault HHH is a bitch that couldn't defeat the power of destrucity. That totally counts. It also counts as ending his undefeated streak.
A finisher should be a finisher unless a dude is leaving the company or they're working an angle where he's injured or attacked while doing the move. Or in a WM main event, and even then, you limit it to once. Going back and seeing these UT matches at WM where it looks like a Mortal Kombat match is dumb as shit. Tombstone a dude, he's dead. Really simple.
Jericho was fine. Only other use I could have seen for the spot was someone else to feud with them, ending the Wyatt arc.
The third man should have been Seth Rollins. The logic is just that Seth straight up said "fuck it, this PPV is now going to be Night of Rollins so I'm going to have a one night Shield reunion too, and fuck the Wyatts"
sf2fanatic
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I'm kinda shocked it's still in existence. Meaning the Wyatt family.
Since the Razor's Edge got brought up, I have to say that I think Razor/Scott Hall is kind of quietly pretty high up on my list of favorite wrestlers. I loved his finisher and the guy had a ton of natural charisma.
Razor is that dude that everyone can appreciate. He would sell, good mic skills, technically sound, and put people over. Top 5 for me.
HEY YO!
To be honest? I was kind of thinking this as well. I think Seth needs to flip his lid successfully more often.
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Bored earlier on, so I had a look at which promotion's are doing better in Korakuen Hall this year;
Promotions that only ran once aren't included, the only other notable omission being ZERO1 (as they don't announce their gates) but I'm guessing they're in the 800-1000 range on average. NJPW ran the most shows but only a few of them sold out, also the G1 Korakuen shows didn't sell out, which I'm attributing to NJ's return to running the last 3 nights of the G1 in Ryogoku. Dragon Gate sold out all but one of their 9 shows so far this year, but they only use a 1,850 fan set-up for Korakuen, where most promotions go for 2,100. Incidentally, smaller promotions generally won't use the bigger set-ups and usually go for 1,650. BJW had one super no-vacancy at those numbers, but that was the only show of theirs that reached that high. Joshi's not doing great at Korakuen, with the smaller Shinjuku FACE as a more regular venue for most women's promotions. AJPW's numbers are really low, but they've been focussing more on regional areas the other big promotions don't run in, so their Korakuen shows seem more about keeping them visible in Tokyo.
Promotions that only ran once aren't included, the only other notable omission being ZERO1 (as they don't announce their gates) but I'm guessing they're in the 800-1000 range on average. NJPW ran the most shows but only a few of them sold out, also the G1 Korakuen shows didn't sell out, which I'm attributing to NJ's return to running the last 3 nights of the G1 in Ryogoku. Dragon Gate sold out all but one of their 9 shows so far this year, but they only use a 1,850 fan set-up for Korakuen, where most promotions go for 2,100. Incidentally, smaller promotions generally won't use the bigger set-ups and usually go for 1,650. BJW had one super no-vacancy at those numbers, but that was the only show of theirs that reached that high. Joshi's not doing great at Korakuen, with the smaller Shinjuku FACE as a more regular venue for most women's promotions. AJPW's numbers are really low, but they've been focussing more on regional areas the other big promotions don't run in, so their Korakuen shows seem more about keeping them visible in Tokyo.
Brock kicked out of two spears in a row.
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Not bad for DDT's 8 events. DG also doing well.
I wouldn't be shocked.
They probably want to set Reigns up in the same spot he was supposed to get last year.
I remember earlier in this very thread there were people arguing with me that this move was 'safe'
The last gimmick Seth Rollins needs is 'cool heel/tweener'
I don't understand why they're listening to Alpha fanboys, they're even worst than the 3rd strike elitists
This woulda made no sense but I'd be fine with it hehe
I can't speak for the move being safe as I have never been in thr ring myself but why do the spot twice and why do it to somebody who is 56?
Would you do that spot if Hogan was wrestling today?
I think doing a 180 on his previous arc would work.
Prior, he was getting bitched out for not being the man. Now after beating Sting, he should try and be the man too much, having them worried.
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Anything can happen on Monday Night Raw, MAGGLE.
Christ, really? I thought it was just the ten thousand Superman punches that he didn't go down for.
Still WM main event and its Brock fucking Lesnar so that's more excusable than everything else that has gone down.
Reminder that they killed the Pop-up Powerbomb on Owens main roster debut.
WHY
sf2fanatic
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Ugh. Please end soon
In hindsight. If Sting was healthy after the match everyone would be giving him praise for taking all the moves. Age didn't matter, true performer. He get's hurt and it's, poor old sting, they should have removed the injury risk moves from the match. Kind of a no win.
Bret was right not to take that Diesel powerbomb. He knew what could happen hehe
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Harper is one of my fave fives of the current roster. It's just a shame that they did nothing with him when he went solo. Suicide dives are so boring these days but I always liked his.
at this point I'm convinced that angle is to just waste time because they can't fill 3 hours of raw anymore.
They should just air the Cole interviews on raw to fill 30 minutes.
CreeperBlocks
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Supposedly Sting might be on Raw tonight. Maybe he's going to pack it up. I'd like to see Sting as a Manager for someone.
Best thing about Harper is all of his stuff looks real and he doesn't steal the spotlight from the babyface.
Harper could do all of these crazy moves if he wanted to but he bumps and performs in a way that doesn't make you go : "Oh man look at that sell" like Ziggler does.
Why this doesn't happen already is beyond me. All the Cole interviews are great, some are fantastic and some will get wrestlers over on their own.
Part of the reason why Ziggler and Harper look awful when they fight against each other, and this is coming from a fan of both of them.
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I'm confused: so which street fighter fans are acceptable?
Sting is gonna put Rollins over and say he doesn't need the authority. He then starts rebelling. The Authority have created a monster they can't control. Rollins helps Reigns and Ambrose with the Wyatts. Rollins becomes a face. Reigns uses some of that push to go for the title at Mania when Brock beats Rollins for the title.
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SF2 off course¡HarlequinPanic!;179533762 said:
SF4 pretty clearly catered to SF2 fans so I'm not surprised that SF5 is catering to Alpha fans.
I just wrote that as a spur of the moment comment, but I actually think Rollins / Ambrose / Reigns burying the hatchet for one match in order to resolve some unfinished business with the Wyatts would have been a neat twist.
I just wrote that as a spur of the moment comment, but I actually think Rollins / Ambrose / Reigns burying the hatchet for one match in order to resolve some unfinished business with the Wyatts would have been a neat twist.
That... would have been great, actually.
I thought their Ladder Match at TLC was fantastic last year.
In fact Harper took some scary and borderline crazy bumps.
I like Ziggler but he is the type that needs a belt to feud for and chase.
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But when are they going to cater to 3s fans
Still the best SF and guaranteed to be for a while yet if V is anything as clunky as IV.
The fact that there's only reportedly four new characters total in SFV and that they're digging up Alpha characters instead is fucking hilarious.
Ultra Street Fighter 4But when are they going to cater to 3s fans
But when are they going to cater to 3s fans
Still the best SF and guaranteed to be for a while yet if V is anything as clunky as IV.
All of the good 3S characters showed up in SF4. Everyone else was worthless.
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Ziggler needs to go back to Heel , but be billed and booked like HBK was during his early Heartbreak Kid run.
But when are they going to cater to 3s fans
Still the best SF and guaranteed to be for a while yet if V is anything as clunky as IV.
but they added some parry to SFV, that's what y'all wanted DAMNIT PAL