Something I plan on doing this thanksgiving weekend since I'm going up to Quebec to see family.
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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015
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Something I plan on doing this thanksgiving weekend since I'm going up to Quebec to see family.
gutter_trash
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when it's easier to sell your Hydro Electicity to Vermont and New York State then it is to sell it to Ontario or New Brunswick, then you know inter-provincial trade is retarded.
PumpkinSpice
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Isn't that because Ontario mostly produces all the electricity it needs internally, except at summer peak demand? That was policy set up to prevent Ontario from getting dependent on Quebec Hydro and getting screwed on price.
TheRealTalker
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and yet we would still benefit as a country if we break those provisional wall barriers
which are also retarded.
Yes sure go international but first strengthen your country before taking the plunge so you can be more competitive as united front
gutter_trash
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Guy Nantel a Quebec comic who does Vox Pop videos goes on the streets of Toronto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=310&v=oGiN-_6Qk_E
hahahaha what is this flag? ''England?''
what party does Stephen Harper belong to? ''NDP?''
hahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=310&v=oGiN-_6Qk_E
hahahaha what is this flag? ''England?''
what party does Stephen Harper belong to? ''NDP?''
hahaha
firehawk12
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In Toronto, more people are jumping on the Blue Jays bandwagon than will actually vote. lol
The TPP is probably like a phone book sized document so I bet we won't figure out where the hell Canada caved on until after the election.
I'm surprised (and disappointed) how little Canada gave on supply management.
The immediate election oriented result of this is that I'm not too sure what angle the NDP are going to take here. These concessions are not huge or devastating.
I'm surprised (and disappointed) how little Canada gave on supply management.
The immediate election oriented result of this is that I'm not too sure what angle the NDP are going to take here. These concessions are not huge or devastating.
Yes. And that's ridiculous.
I think this is more common among all the provinces than we'd think
hilarious but depressing
UberTag
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That's very sad. Anybody in Waterloo knows that riding has swung Liberal and it's not even contestable at this point. Drudging up provincial riding numbers is just being disingenuous.
Bird is an NDP adviser. Those stats are for the 2014 provincial. What is happening? Only Mulcair can beat... Hudak?
gutter_trash
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for someone who said that polls don't matter in 2011, Tom (or Thomas) really likes to use ''polls'' to sway people into voting for his candidates
*i just found out today that people in Quebec pay $2 more for their milk thank Canadians from other provinces. That cartel
*i just found out today that people in Quebec pay $2 more for their milk thank Canadians from other provinces. That cartel
AuthenticM
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Hilarious and depressing. How can you not know who the fuck is running your country? I am honestly confused by how this can happen. Like, do you never watch TV or talk to people? This is the kind of information that travels everywhere and that one shouldn't be able to avoid. I met some Brazilian exchange students last year who had never been here and had never seen snow in their lives, and they all knew that Harper was the prime minister and he was a conservative.
gutter_trash
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Ford Nation
I you ask 500 people, you'll easily find 10 who are dumb and/or ignorant. Then it's all about the editing.
Looks like the NDP will support artists and film makers
http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/20...f-employed-artists-mulcair-says/#.VhKyF_lVhBe
http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/20...f-employed-artists-mulcair-says/#.VhKyF_lVhBe
Buba Big Guns
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Not even hilarious. Those are the type of people who think it`s a good thing to be ignorant on politics and how their country is run. They end up voting for the incumbent without knowing any policy.
Bird is an NDP adviser. Those stats are for the 2014 provincial. What is happening? Only Mulcair can beat... Hudak?
For every NDP supporter than thinks the Conservatives are the only ones that want to fudge numbers, take a big gulp of reality. The NDP is no better, having to resort to these tactics.
AuthenticM
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Oh I know about choice selection in the editing room. Nantel has been transparent about this. But I still do not understand how a single grown adult, native of Canada, can be unaware of the identity of the prime minister. As I said, it's the kind of information that one cannot avoid even if they are actively disinterested in politics.
It's pretty easy to avoid if you don't want to know though. It's those people that get off work go home, don't watch the news, don't read newspapers, and instead watch some drivel on TV that does not educate them. I could say the same about myself and the new batch of popular musicians. I don't know a lot of these people and in some cases I just hear their names for the first time in conversation. It's because that is not my world nor do I care, and a lot of people have voter apathy. They don't see government policies affecting them directly (or at least not personally) so they don't care to know about it.
We already knew this about Mulcair.
indigo lily
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Has anyone posted the full Liberal platform yet?
https://www.liberal.ca/files/2015/10/A-new-plan-for-a-strong-middle-class.pdf
https://www.liberal.ca/files/2015/10/A-new-plan-for-a-strong-middle-class.pdf
It's like the sponshorship scandal never happened !
GuessMyUserName
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Yeap ditto for me
Except not so much knowing PM (as sad as that is), more-so on not knowing 10 PROVINCES (I'd even be lenient on an answer of "13"), and the Canadian flag beaver
Although the sad thing about not knowing our PM, is you can bet money these people would know about Obama >_>... which also made me scream when that woman thought our anthem is God Save Our Queen.
I don't remember it.
It's like the sponsorship scandal was completely meaningless!
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You're the type of voter politicians love.
killer rin
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Thanks, reading it now
Edit:
Post-Secondary Education Plan
Well, while I already graduated this year... I want, I really want, even if it would help my brothers more-so than me
Simon Belmont
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It's like it wasn't worth throwing a decade of our countries progress away for that!
gutter_trash
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after watching that Vox Pop on the streets of Toronto, i don't think people vote on party platforms, lol
Sakura
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That doesn't sound much different than the way it is already. I've had student loans for over 6 years and have not yet been required to pay a cent back because I don't make much money.
PumpkinSpice
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I would really like to get a hard copy of this somewhere. Are they giving them out for free?
If they get elected I want to mark check / x when and if they actually implement these promises. There's a lot here, most of it good, and I hope it goes through but election promises have a habit of not happening for all parties.
killer rin
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Right now the way it works is that you get an 8-month buffer between school ending and repayment, and if you can't pay your minimum you apply for the Repayment Assistance Plan where they pay the percentage of interest you can't afford, and you make a payment based off of your affordable payment. The program itself is pretty much guaranteed as long as you can prove you can't pay.
With this, they would extend the 8-month buffer to indefinite as long as you make under 25,000 a year, which would help substantially because it would ensure Students under federal assistance become on stable ground before forcing the repayment on them, which is much better than going off of the "oh, you'll find a job within 8 months no problem" metric.
So pretty much while it doesn't actually change much, it saves the stress of being on the 6-8 months and realizing "oh-shit, I still don't have a job yet" and gives students peace of mind to fully dedicate themselves towards their studies, because it does feel like an axe hanging over your head all throughout the year
eBay Huckster
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sponsorship shouldn't have been as major a scandal as it actually was, downloading entirely for the sake of balanced federal budgets should've been
and if even half this Liberal platform gets implemented (especially this thing re: loans) it'll make up for that
Bird is an NDP adviser. Those stats are for the 2014 provincial. What is happening? Only Mulcair can beat... Hudak?
lol wow that is sad.
Scanning through twitter there's a lot of hot air coming from Mulcair right now on TPP. Clearly he's feeling intense pressure as he slips to third and he's got to try something different, but it feels very desperate. Mulcair's reckless position on TPP is clearly an election gambit and it makes me respect and support him less.
Sakura
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Right. That's what I'm saying.
Even when I've been making say 20k a year, the percentage of interest I've had to pay is 0 percent.
If you can't afford to pay the loan back, you apply for assistance, and if you are low income you don't pay anything.
So I don't think this new program the Liberal's are proposing is much different. It even says
It sounds like they are just remarketing what already exists and attaching the dollar value to it.
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Maybe, but what I got out of it is that they are keeping the Repayment Assistance Program while making changes to the 8-month buffer of the loan section, to replace that with the $25,000 before they even begin asking you to repay.... so you wouldn't have to apply for the Repayment Assistance Program.
Mainly because the Repayment Assistance Program doesn't really have a monetary threshold for availability (I don't think), the requirements are just 'show that you can't afford it and make an attempt to pay'
PumpkinSpice
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Just saw this article on Danny William's latest thoughts on Stephen Harper. The last paragraph stuck out for me:
It'd be really interesting to see him run for leadership of the Conservatives after Harper steps down. Might be a tough sell after his ABC campaign, but he could bring some much needed change to that party.
It'd be really interesting to see him run for leadership of the Conservatives after Harper steps down. Might be a tough sell after his ABC campaign, but he could bring some much needed change to that party.
Sakura
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It doesn't say that anywhere though.
It literally says the way they are implementing this is by changing the income threshold of the existing plan.
You are most likely still going to have to apply for it and prove how much money you are making.
Mulcair had a rally near me that I saw on the news, and his sister introduced him as "the next Prime Minister of Canada". I laughed, imagined she said "if a miracle happens" under her breath, and laughed some more.
killer rin
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(just quoting for easier access)
I'm rereading it now, though it still feels like its at-least a mix of sorts. Either this goes the route of
-They are changing the 8-month threshold until you make $25,000; or,
-They are making it so that they keep the 8-month threshold, you have to continue to reapply every 8 months or so, but you don't make partial payments until you make over $25,000; or,
-They are just raising a threshold to make it available to more people?
Of-couse this could be just me thinking idealistic again, which is why I am bringing this up in the thread. I want to understand
gutter_trash
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Mulcair is a Provincial MNA at his heart who campaigns a Federal election as if he was still a Provincial MNA running a Provincial Campaign
the guy is unable to think outside his Robert Bourassa mentality of only thinking of saving his ass in one Province
the guy is unable to think outside his Robert Bourassa mentality of only thinking of saving his ass in one Province
But of course, Mike Duffy story is of paramount importance !
Great, now it's the voters fault. They should have let corrupt people govern because the Evil Party of Canada is really evil. Liberals should just be in power forever. Because absolute power is the way to go. All in the name of progress !
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