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What are you reading? (October 2015)

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So, I read The Death of Ivan Ilych and found it a lot more honest and engaging than I thought it was going to be. I was expecting a sentimental, lofty, austere sort of thing. On the wings of that success I was carried to... uuhhhhhh, somewhere I didn't ever expect..... mmmm hmmmm..... well, this happened:

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(I got the Kindle version, just wanted you to feel dat girth)

This is about 1500 pages of historical fiction set in Russia during the Franco-Russian wars, starting in 1805 and moving through the war of 1812. More exactly, action is split up between the front(Austerlitz and later Napoleon's invasion), St. Petersburg and Moscow as the book follows four wealthy land/serf owning families, occasionally shifting to cover the two armies directly. The wealthy aristocracy that Tolstoy writes about is a desultory, stagnated society given to decadence and effete living at home; vain, self serving and therefore myopic and inept action at war. But don't worry! There's a lot more to it than condescending indictments and critiques.

Where the book really shines is in smaller scenes. Two young, wealthy siblings spend a night at their uncle's cottage after hunting, discovering him to be quite content and happy living among the peasants. Perhaps the wealthiest land owner in Moscow finds a compatriot in a French officer over dinner with Moscow just starting to burn around them discussing his failed love life and a poisonous marriage he was all but swindled into after inheriting his wealth. A small party of soldiers dry themselves from the rain in a tea house in the country amiably flirting with the young wife of a doctor that sleeps behind her on a bench. The retreat from Smolensk is on display through the eyes of an unsuspecting head servant sent to do some errands by a count... there's a lot of stuff like this and it's done well. What's more there's a gestalt of these scenes that paints an enchanting picture of the times, though seen from the perch of the highest strata of Russian society. As much as they are mocked and ridiculed, that's where this book stays. It's a good thing they're not caricatures. Marya Bolkonskaya stands out especially, hiding from life behind religion(surprisingly varied views on this) and a father growing tyrannical and cruel in old age. Nikolai Rostov is like a repellent you can't help but feel glad for by the end.

So those are the good parts, but fairly often I was really laboring to make any progress at all. Maybe a scorecard?

The setting: incredibly fascinating. Also, Russia's current relationship with European countries versus what once was is disheartening.

Tolstoy the writer: very, very good. Not spectacular in the moment, but what does it say that a 1500 page book that almost never seems smaller is still being read almost 150 years later? A novel where whole sections are seemingly interchangeable with a history text book. The guy will flat out drop everything and give you his thoughts on theory of history, political climate, chart Napoleon's career and whatever else as he feels. Speaking of which:

Tolstoy the historian: good, almost pedantically thorough, but not especially captivating. There's also an odd bias here. He's decidedly against the idea of Great Men and how integral they are to what's going on. We're talking Emperors here, but he will not yield even a small influence to any one individual. What seems to matter are nebulous ideas of fate or purpose and a guiding hand of the people. In one analogy Napoleon during the stay and subsequent retreat from Moscow is likened to a child with a pair of strings pretending to be driving the carriage in which he rides. Or, on the other side, when he is describing the governor of Moscow we get this:
In quiet and troubled times it seems to every administrator that it is only by his efforts that the whole population under his rule is kept going, and in this consciousness of being indispensable every administrator finds the chief reward of his labour and efforts. While the sea of history remains calm the ruler-administrator in his frail bark, holding on with a boat-hook to the ship of the people, and himself moving, naturally imagines that his efforts move the ship he is holding on to. But as soon as a storm arises and the sea begins to heave and the ship to move, such a delusion is no longer possible. The ship moves independently with its own enormous motion, the boat-hook no longer reaches the moving vessel, and suddenly the administrator, instead of appearing a ruler and a source of power, becomes an insignificant, useless, feeble man.
Even in translation, it's not so bad, is it? Anyway, his views on the nature of history and historians are the second part of the epilogue(that's right, two parts. And yes, the epilogue is longer than some books), but I would rather draw from the novel proper rather than something that may as well be supplementary reading.

Tolstoy the philosopher: bit of an anachronistic train wreck.

Do I recommend you devote some two weeks worth of reading to this like I did? Probably not, not with this kind of time investment, but I don't regret it.

EDIT: Also, I recently found out Tolstoy's great grandson(I think it's great) is hosting what amounts to a propaganda talk show on Russian television currently. What a blow to poor Leo.
 
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Very intruiging approach to the premise and an interesting style of writing, albeit perhaps trying too hard at times to ape the Victorian-stylings it apes.

Still a great read, gonna check out the BBC adaptation soon.
 
The Communist Manifesto. First chapter done. The thing about reading Marxist literature now is that so much of it is already covered wholesale for anyone who graduated in anything with a political economy slant. You'll have the general gist of it already without having to read this book.
 
I recently read listened to Aurora by Kim Stanley Robinson and Solaris by Stanislaw Lem. Aurora was a bit disappointing. It was great up until they get there, and then, well, fuck that shit. Really. But up till that point, it was making me desperate to read more colonisation books, generation ship books (non-dystopian ones (though I will be reading Way Down Dark by a certain gaffer at some point soon)) but ones that really look at the mechanics of it. And then it went the direction it did, which could have been, well, philosophically interesting I suppose, but I didn't like the way it was handled. That magic get-out-of-jail card for example. Solaris was pretty good, though I think listening to it at work with being interrupted a lot didn't do much for my enjoyment. I think I consistently rate books I listen to about one star lower on goodreads than I otherwise might have done.

I'm currently listening to The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein. It's not going so well. It's Enid Blyton levels of 'she's as good as a boy any day!' sexism, and whenever anyone meets the main female character there's a ton of commentary on how hot she is. I'm also reading Deep Secrets by Niobe Way, non fiction about boys' friendships. It's good but repetitive. And still reading A Brief History of Seven Killings, will I finish it before the Booker winner is announced in five days..
 
Someone come to my house and read The Stand to me while I play Destiny. I'm gonna have a hard time making my 50 book goal cause I've been on this book forever. Once I finish I'm gonna have to burn through some shorter books really, really quickly.
 
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Very intruiging approach to the premise and an interesting style of writing, albeit perhaps trying too hard at times to ape the Victorian-stylings it apes.

Still a great read, gonna check out the BBC adaptation soon.

One of my absolute favorites. This should go without saying, but don't skip any footnotes!
 
When you come across a footnote that takes up half a page, in a work of fiction, it is perhaps a small clue that you should be reading them.

Mind you I would happily read a whole book just composed of the material in Jonathan Strange & Mr Morrell's footnotes.
 
When you come across a footnote that takes up half a page, in a work of fiction, it is perhaps a small clue that you should be reading them.

Mind you I would happily read a whole book just composed of the material in Jonathan Strange & Mr Morrell's footnotes.

Same haha. I'd love to get my hands on some of the textbooks that the characters read.
 
Someone come to my house and read The Stand to me while I play Destiny. I'm gonna have a hard time making my 50 book goal cause I've been on this book forever. Once I finish I'm gonna have to burn through some shorter books really, really quickly.

no audiobooks?
 
The first Mistborn series or the first book of the 2nd trilogy (Alloy of Law)? This is the 2nd book in the 2nd trilogy (so the 5th Mistborn book) which takes place 300 years after the events in the first Mistborn series.

Mistborn is very enjoyable, escapist fantasy with a different take on magic and how it works. It's typical Sanderson worldbuilding and character development and recommended if you like his work. I'm a big fan of the series.

The Final Empire is Book 1.
I've read the first trilogy, was talking about the new one.
 
I'd like to read something fantasy, probably something a bit less known since I've read so much fantasy. Recommendations GAF?
 
Hey all, I've been itching to read something on the history of Mexico for a while now, but I have no idea where to start. Anyone here knowledgeable enough on the subject to point me on the right path?
 
When you come across a footnote that takes up half a page, in a work of fiction, it is perhaps a small clue that you should be reading them.

Mind you I would happily read a whole book just composed of the material in Jonathan Strange & Mr Morrell's footnotes.

Or maybe that's a clue that the footnote shouldn't be a footnote? Personally having to click footnotes (Kindle reader) really messes with the flow of the book and makes me have to re-read the paragraph when I get back from the footnote.
 
Footnotes are rutting terrible on e-readers, but I love them in physical books.

Agreed so fucking hard. I made the mistake of buying a korean war book on my kindle once when it was on sale and the constant irritant of placing a bookmark, flying to the footnote section, bookmarking back, and rinse repeat sometimes 8-9 times a page just ruined buying books like that in ebook format /ever/ again.
 
You'd think they would have figured out how to do footnotes on ereaders by now. Embed the footnote instead of having them at the end of the chapter / book. Just make it so I'm not suddenly at 92% read when I click a footnote in the first chapter.
 
What the hell are you guys talking about? You tap a footnote and a window pops up overlaying the text. Even if you decide to go to the actual location of the footnote, it's as easy as pressing the back button to flash back to the exact place you were at before.
 
What the hell are you guys talking about? You tap a footnote and a window pops up overlaying the text. Even if you decide to go to the actual location of the footnote, it's as easy as pressing the back button to flash back to the exact place you were at before.
Maybe they've updated the process, but that's definitely not how it used to be. I'll check The Count of Monte Cristo.
Edit: still broken. On my phone, click footnote, moved to 98%, press back - > returned to library... Fucking footnotes
 
Yea, and on my microwave the word "Mercedes" doesn't even fit without the text having to scroll. Blast those ereaders!

Get a Kindle, navigating an ebook is often superior to paper. Besides the footnotes, they're all searchable and a lot of ebooks support a sort of mini wiki page for characters to further help the reader keep track of stuff. Highlighting is also obviously improved and having a dictionary, translator, and wikipedia a single listless finger press away is fantastic.
 
Yea, and on my microwave the word "Mercedes" doesn't even fit without the text having to scroll. Blast those ereaders!

Get a Kindle, navigating an ebook is often superior to paper. Besides the footnotes, they're all searchable and a lot of ebooks support a sort of mini wiki page for characters to further help the reader keep track of stuff. Highlighting is also obviously improved and having a dictionary, translator, and wikipedia a single listless finger press away is fantastic.

Lol, I do have a Kindle2 and I am considering picking up a Paperwhite.

Anyway, to get this thread back on track:

I just finished
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It was all right. Main character was a bit of a Mary Sue and the constant deja vu experiences was annoying. It was like he had amnesia and was constantly surprised when he re-visited places he'd been before.
 
Finished Ready Player One. Great start, faltered later, still a good read.

We the Drowned is still going great.

I picked up A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms with one of my Audible credits for gym and driving listening. I have never read any of these stories. I am listening to The Hedge Knight and the voice actor is amazing, he just has the right voice and inflections for the story. I haven't heard someone read a book so casually well since I listened to Anne Hathaway do The Wizard of Oz.
 
Yea, and on my microwave the word "Mercedes" doesn't even fit without the text having to scroll. Blast those ereaders!

Get a Kindle, navigating an ebook is often superior to paper. Besides the footnotes, they're all searchable and a lot of ebooks support a sort of mini wiki page for characters to further help the reader keep track of stuff. Highlighting is also obviously improved and having a dictionary, translator, and wikipedia a single listless finger press away is fantastic.

Not sure if that's a brand or if you're really trying to read a book on your microwave.
 
So I've been reading Lovecraft since last month.
Can say already that he's one of my favorite writers.
 
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Penguin finally published two long out of print short story collections by weird philosophical horror master Thomas Ligotti in one single volume. My copy arrived yesterday, and I'm eager to read through these earlier stories of his. I really liked what I read from his more recent short story collection Teatro Grottesco, so I'm curious to see how his earlier work will compare, supposedly being under a greater influence of Edgar Alan Poe and Lovecraft.

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Also, in the spirit of the season, me and my girlfriend are reading M.R. James' ghost stories together. Wonderfully atmospheric, creepy and suspenseful. Classic supernatural fiction.

So I've been reading Lovecraft since last month.
Can say already that he's one of my favorite writers.

I read quite a few of Lovecraft's stories a while back, a few of them being some of my most favorite stories of all time. Can you share some impressions? What is your favorite story so far?
 
Has anyone here read Coates' Between the World and Me?
 
So I've been reading Lovecraft since last month.
Can say already that he's one of my favorite writers.

I just started At the Mountains of Madness. I'm going in totally blind, which is wild for a book written in 1931. The writing is so beautiful. Really amazing stuff. Bring on the creepy.
 
I started reading the Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood yesterday. I think I will have to find something more upbeat after this and Flowers for Algernon.
 
Just finished Haruki Murakami's The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle. Really enjoyed the hell out of this book, haven't read anything else by him but now I'm looking forward to more.
 
I'd like to read something fantasy, probably something a bit less known since I've read so much fantasy. Recommendations GAF?

Have you read the Vlad Taltos books? They are pulpy but fun.

You could also try the Acacia trilogy by David Anthony Durham.

I rarely see either of those mentioned here.
 
Have you read the Vlad Taltos books? They are pulpy but fun.

You could also try the Acacia trilogy by David Anthony Durham.

I rarely see either of those mentioned here.

I've read the Acacia trilogy and tried the Vlad Taltos books and didn't like them all that much.
 
Nearly halfway through Fool's Quest, by Robin Hobb.

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Fantastic so far. If there's been any decrease in quality throughout this series, I've sure never noticed it.
 
I'd like to read something fantasy, probably something a bit less known since I've read so much fantasy. Recommendations GAF?

I just finished Patricia A. McKillip's Riddle-Master trilogy on quinkles' suggestion, and I really enjoyed it. If you haven't read it, give it a try.
 
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Finished reading Uprooted, by Naomi Novik. I wanted to like this since I enjoyed some of the Temeraire novels. It was ok, but kind of a letdown. I did not care for any of the characters, other than the best friend. lol

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Next up is Sorcerer to the Crown, by Zen Cho, since I'm still in the mood for sorcery.
 
Hey guys,

What are your favourite "underground society" stories? Ancient civilizations, mole people, hollow earth, Lovecraftian horrors...anything that deals with caves and the mysteries of what lies beneath?
 
Hey guys,

What are your favourite "underground society" stories? Ancient civilizations, mole people, hollow earth, Lovecraftian horrors...anything that deals with caves and the mysteries of what lies beneath?

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Down, down, down .. to the very nipple of the world!


More helpful answer: Journey to the Center of the Earth, At the Mountains of Madness, and Dark, Dark Were the Tunnels are all I can think of off the top of my head at the moment but I too would be interested in recs of this style.
 
Finished reading Uprooted, by Naomi Novik. I wanted to like this since I enjoyed some of the Temeraire novels. It was ok, but kind of a letdown. I did not care for any of the characters, other than the best friend. lol

I liked Uprooted a lot, but I felt like despite all that happened in the story, it was still missing a little something. Character development, maybe? Books that get me emotionally invested in the characters are my favorites. Farseer series, Outlander, A Song of Ice and Fire, and the Stormlight Archive books are all examples of that. (Edit: Maybe it's also that Uprooted had to finish the story as a standalone novel where all the others I listed are long series in which you're reading about the same people for a very long time.)

Just started:


The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison

Only about 4 chapters in but it's just tops.
 
Finished:

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A mixed bag. The writing, as has already been discussed, is great. Her character descriptions are brilliant. HOWEVER. This is very much a tribute to the fat slab Victorian novels, and insomuch, it's heavily plot-driven and that plot isn't all that interesting and the characters are either good, neutral, or evil, and there's never a bit of doubt as to who is who . I can't help but think that the Booker committee was taken by how young Catton is and how radically different this book was from her first. 3/5, if I'm being generous.

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I picked this one up on a gaf recommendation- and I completely agree with you. I'm loathing every second of this.
 
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