Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

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Needs more JVCD.
 
how do you even redesign Guile tho.

His hair and the fact that he his a military dude is legit all he has.

Instead of only 2 specials and many normals all his normals will be replaced by motion specials and he has two v good normals instead
 
It's going to be Sakura. It's going to be Sakura. It's going to be Sakura.
It's going to be Sakura. It's going to be Sakura. It's going to be Sakura.

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I always find it sad that Capcom bringing back characters is always expected to be a boring thing. Speaks volumes for how little they let their characters develop. I hope our final returning character, whomever they are, is so pleasantly re-designed and updated that it sets a good trend going forward for the DLC characters.

We knew from the very first official announcement of this game that Charlie was in it... he's obviously the center of the storyline this time. A Charlie-centric storyline without Guile... well just wouldn't not be very satisfying. Of course Guile can be in the story without having to be playable at launch (or ever I guess).

Charlie pretty much just is a "Guile 2.0" Concept and design wise, though. He's the perfect character to take the place of Guile in a limited-size roster, just like he did in the majority of the Alpha series.

how do you even redesign Guile tho.

His hair and the fact that he his a military dude is legit all he has.

Charles Nash. Everything Guile is, just with a bit more appeal and personality to work with.
 
Charlie pretty much just is a "Guile 2.0" Concept and design wise, though. He's the perfect character to take the place of Guile in a limited-size roster, just like he did in the majority of the Alpha series.

If we were talking about Alpha I would agree with you. That being said, Charlie is VERY different now.
 
Gameplay variety would benefit from Dhalsim the most, Sagat next, and Guile the less.

There's a non-zero chance last returning char is Sakura or Akuma tho.

I really want Dhalsim.

EX Grand Izuna Drop can be pretty scary.... his anti-air options with no claw are also pretty limited. With claw he has aurora spin edge, which is a great anti-air. Since he has no scarlet terror in this game.. a clawless Vega is very weak against jump ins unless he has a CA or V-trigger loaded.

I think EX Flying Barcelona is an anti-air in both modes. At least it hits while rising. Didn't really test it but you are right that clawless has bad anti-air.

Don't think Vega is for me, but it will be interesting to track his use.
 
Has to be sakura because this is the first street fighter willing to change character designs and movesets EVER and NOBODY needs more a change like that than Sakura.
 
Guile will be interesting when he eventually comes out, as we will see what they add to a character mostly unchanged (outside of supers) since WW.

I am betting the v-skill is Remy's dive kick (he has it in Omega) and his v-trigger is a mode that lets him spam Sonic Booms, making every Sonic Boom into Nash's old super or something like that.

Don't think he will get his special move that is just a combo from Omega. Prolly hella target combos tho.

All in all I think Remy will be p redundant and won't make it to SFV.

Wish Guile recovered his jumping roundhouse to be the extra long kick he had in the SF2 days. Always hated the more diagonal jumping roundhouse they gave him in 4. Seeing how they butchered Zangief's superman jumping fierce doesn't fill me with confidence tho.
 
Enhanced.

Haha, ok, can go with that.

If we were talking about Alpha I would agree with you. That being said, Charlie is VERY different now.

He's very different, yes. But he still has his base stuff (slashy kicks, a boom move) just with enhancements. He's the kind of change I wanna see in my fighter sequels, even if his path to getting there is kinda odd.

I'd kind of love to see them include Nash circa Alpha as a bouus DLC down the line. Not a big focus like the mainliners, but a nice extra since so much of him is already here... but not.

Charlie > Guile ...... Much more interesting character.

In a way, he's the best "new generation" design. He feels like an update to an old character, that respects the changes that have come to the genre since the old guys were first introduced. He can still mostly apply to the same fanbase and taste, just in a way that doesn't feel so entirely retro in design.

Also, Charlie being so similar forces Guile to grow, whenever he re-appears. To make Guile a workable character in a roster with Charlie, he has to evolve some. I really hope this works out for him eventually in V. I'd love to see Guile really unleash some new style to his moves in a V trigger state, for example, similar to how Cammy works.
 
But you left out all the important parts
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Remy has cooler moves than both of them but he ain't shit tbh

You know I will defend a lot of edgy shit. Not defending remy's personality that man is apologetically a bundle of shojou ai tropes. For a very specific audience.
 
I think Guile can do it. ( i mean technically speaking he does it in omega )

I just think guile's personality doesn't allow for that. I have always viewed guile as a very technical type of guy. Out side of his odd choice in hair and occasional shades, he always seemed, do it the proper way.

Its like i want never see ryu do hadokens with his feet

and All I want to see ken doing is hadokens with his feet. Ryu seems a bit more technical with his craft than ken is.
 
Guile's theme > Guile's hair > JCVD Guile > Daigo's Guile > Nash's theme > Nash > Guile > Nash's hair
Guile's theme > Guile's hair > JCVD Guile > cartoon Guile > Daigo's Guile > SF2 Animated Movie Guile > Nash's theme > Nash > Guile > Nash's hair

You know I will defend a lot of edgy shit. Not defending remy's personality that man is apologetically a bundle of shojou ai tropes. For a very specific audience.
Yeah, I'd like Remy more if he didn't come off as a scrapped Jojo's character concept. Like, Araki was working on what would become Polnareff, came up with Remy, and decided he wasn't JOJO enough. And Capcom still ripped it off.
 
I think Guile can do it. ( i mean technically speaking he does it in omega )

I just think guile's personality doesn't allow for that. I have always viewed guile as a very technical type of guy. Out side of his odd choice in hair and occasional shades, he always seemed, do it the proper way.

Its like i want never see ryu do hadokens with his feet

and All I want to see ken doing is hadokens with his feet. Ryu seems a bit more technical with his craft than ken is.

I'm pretty sure he can only throw booms with two hands because he didn't take Charlie's training seriously. Charlie does it the right way, he's the one that created the technique.
 
Yeah, I'd like Remy more if he didn't come off as a scrapped Jojo's character concept. Like, Araki was working on what would become Polnareff, came up with Remy, and decided he wasn't JOJO enough. And Capcom still ripped it off.
That wouldn't surprise me considering that....
  • Guile looks somewhat like Stroheim
  • Rose kinda looks like Lisa Lisa
  • Juri looks similar to Jolyne
  • Urien is literally one of the Pillar Men
  • Ryu & Karin's V-Triggers are basically them using Hamon
  • Rashid can use Divine Sandstorm with his backpack (so basically Rashid is a tech-based Wamuu)
  • V-Triggered Necalli is basically Ultimate Kars
All we need now is for Zen to use a Stand.
 
I want Guile to have more of an Undercut hair style, a beard and a bomber jacket. You could put him in a beater and some camo pants.
 
Guile should finally learn how to throw a boom with one hand in vtrigger.

Light Boom is One arm, Medium is the other, Fierce Punch is both arms. Both lighter ones are the same speed, but one hits, the other is a fake projectile that goes through the opponent but does nothing, for mindgames because he recovers faster from it. Don't think we've ever seen a fake fireball like that before... well, not in game anywho... that kind of stuff happens all the time in animation.

I just think guile's personality doesn't allow for that. I have always viewed guile as a very technical type of guy. Out side of his odd choice in hair and occasional shades, he always seemed, do it the proper way.

Its like i want never see ryu do hadokens with his feet

and All I want to see ken doing is hadokens with his feet. Ryu seems a bit more technical with his craft than ken is.

Even the straight man can deviate, they just do it in a different way. Guile would add change for a purpose. Not just to show off, but functional for a purpose, too.
 
Guile uses both hands to better control the speed of the booms.

That's silly. It's a sonic boom.

He does them with two hands because he sucks at doing it.

http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Guile

When Guile was a lieutenant in the United States Air Force, he befriended his superior officer, Charlie, and asked Charlie to teach him in his unique form of fighting, which Charlie agreed to do. Guile learned the style, but his hot temper caused him to not be as proficient in the moves as Charlie was.
 
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