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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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It's best to think that the PT didn't happen and that Jedi have been rare and mysterious for centuries. Thankfully it looks like JJ is distancing himself from the PT, so that should make it easier to ignore.
Honestly, mediocre they may be, Abrams deciding for himself what is or isn't canon would be distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator of the sandbox he is playing in.

I'd hope he'd have the tact to not straight up revise history on a universe he did not create. There already shouldn't be a need to go deep into referencing the prequels due to the timeframe of the film, but I'd hope he does not feel the need to go out of the way to contradict them.
 
Just had this pointed out to me

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The X wings on water we have seen from the trailers...it creates a water shield that makes it hard for the enemy to shoot them

How fucking clever is that.

It's not like it's necessary to make it harder for Stormtroopers to hit shit.
 
Water shield? Isn't it just the water behind them like in the first trailer.

Its poor wording because its 5:20am, what im basically saying is that they are using it tactically, or so it would seem, they are taking something which just looked like a cool effect but to their advantage!

Looks awesome.
 
Guess I'm in the vast minority. Looked meh to me. First the positives, cinematography and most ofl the acting looks great. Only bad acting I saw was Ford who is still not giving a single fuck about a performance. Wouldn't bother me if he was only gonna be in 10 minutes of the movie but going by the poster and the trailer he's gonna be a main character. Now the negatives, dialog is borderline cringe worthy. "Who are you?", "I'm no one", sounds like a Sonic the Edgehog fan story. "I was raised to do one thing but I got nothing to fight for" what does that even mean? "The force is calling to you, just let it in" I read that on a teenagers live journal ten years ago right? I'm willing to bed all them lines were written for a trailer then shoe horned into the movie. And I don't care how many times they show it the crucifix lightsaber looks dumb as fuck.


Also it's so fucking tacky who they are whoring this thing out and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Some place in my deep dark heart I hope this thing comes out and bombs just to burn Disney.

My hopes and dreams? The villain kills hans and chewie at the end and in a fit of rage Boyega knocks off the bad guys mask reveling Skywalker. Movie ends with Skywalker leaving Boyega and Ridley half dead on the battlefield before flying off.

Let the hate flow through you.
 
I still think the better explanation is that people are not doubting the established history of the Jedi, merely that the Jedi continued to exist after they were systematically wiped out and that they played a major role in the events of the Rebellion against the Empire. It would be like a conspiracy theory that Free Masons are still operating at the highest echelons of government. Yes we know they did exist, but the idea that they continue to operate in a meaningful way would be treated very credulously.
 
We'll just have to agree to disagree. There are quadrillions of people in the galaxy. No one gives a shit about outter rim worlds. No the New Republic isn't going to hand out info cards about Palpatine to every sentient citizen. I think there are perfectly fine reasons not to know, I just think you're convinced on finding issue.



I feel like you're not a fan of Star Wars from reading this :lol....and I don't understand the underline at all...you seem to have some pent up anger at Disney...

Love Star Wars up till the prequels and yeah Disney is a horrible company that does horrible things. Their impact on copy right law alone is damnation enough.

Let the hate flow through you.

I mean i'm gonna go see it of course and I hope it's great but going by this trailer it's not looking good.
 
Honestly, mediocre they may be, Abrams deciding for himself what is or isn't canon would be distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator of the sandbox he is playing in.

I'd hope he'd have the tact to not straight up revise history on a universe he did not create. There already shouldn't be a need to go deep into referencing the prequels due to the timeframe of the film, but I'd hope he does not feel the need to go out of the way to contradict them.

He won't, especially with Kassdan as a co-writer on the movie, he even mentioned Lucas during E3 to much chagrin in the audience.
 
We'll just have to agree to disagree. There are quadrillions of people in the galaxy. No one gives a shit about outter rim worlds. No the New Republic isn't going to hand out info cards about Palpatine to every sentient citizen. I think there are perfectly fine reasons not to know, I just think you're convinced on finding issue.
No but the New Republic would certainly release the information to all Planetary governments who would probably let the info trickle down to the people. So yeah, only way I can justify that conversation is that Rey just didn't care (which is fine I won't argue that)

I figured you would say that so in return I will agree to disagree as well but well also say I just think you're convinced on trying to justify the lazy writing idea of the force being a galaxy wide myth.

Being a smuggler, Han isn't exactly representative of what the average person would know from Empire-censored info
I'm sure Rey as a scavenger of Star Destroyers isn't representative of the average person either. :)

Han heard about the Jedi and the Force through stories, and now Rey is hearing about it through his story.
Eh whatever, my point is if the Jedi are galaxy wide myths that's dumb. If just Rey never heard about them it MIGHT be okay.
 
Guess I'm in the vast minority. Looked meh to me. First the positives, cinematography and most ofl the acting looks great. Only bad acting I saw was Ford who is still not giving a single fuck about a performance. Wouldn't bother me if he was only gonna be in 10 minutes of the movie but going by the poster and the trailer he's gonna be a main character. Now the negatives, dialog is borderline cringe worthy. "Who are you?", "I'm no one", sounds like a Sonic the Edgehog fan story. "I was raised to do one thing but I got nothing to fight for" what does that even mean? "The force is calling to you, just let it in" I read that on a teenagers live journal ten years ago right? I'm willing to bed all them lines were written for a trailer then shoe horned into the movie. And I don't care how many times they show it the crucifix lightsaber looks dumb as fuck.


Also it's so fucking tacky who they are whoring this thing out and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Some place in my deep dark heart I hope this thing comes out and bombs just to burn Disney.

My hopes and dreams? The villain kills hans and chewie at the end and in a fit of rage Boyega knocks off the bad guys mask reveling Skywalker. Movie ends with Skywalker leaving Boyega and Ridley half dead on the battlefield before flying off.

Okie Dokie.
 
Luke didn't know what a Jedi was. Why can't these two not know either? They don't speak for everyone else either. The prequels going from 10,000 to 5 is Lucus's bad writing and on him.
 
Honestly, mediocre they may be, Abrams deciding for himself what is or isn't canon would be distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator of the sandbox he is playing in.

Honestly tired of hearing about it, no matter what you think about the prequels they happened and they're canon. They're not going to write them off. They also don't really need to.
 
Guess I'm in the vast minority. Looked meh to me. First the positives, cinematography and most ofl the acting looks great. Only bad acting I saw was Ford who is still not giving a single fuck about a performance. Wouldn't bother me if he was only gonna be in 10 minutes of the movie but going by the poster and the trailer he's gonna be a main character. Now the negatives, dialog is borderline cringe worthy. "Who are you?", "I'm no one", sounds like a Sonic the Edgehog fan story. "I was raised to do one thing but I got nothing to fight for" what does that even mean? "The force is calling to you, just let it in" I read that on a teenagers live journal ten years ago right? I'm willing to bed all them lines were written for a trailer then shoe horned into the movie. And I don't care how many times they show it the crucifix lightsaber looks dumb as fuck.
Context tends to do wonders, you know
 
Honestly, mediocre they may be, Abrams deciding for himself what is or isn't canon would be distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator of the sandbox he is playing in.

I'd hope he'd have the tact to not straight up revise history on a universe he did not create. There already shouldn't be a need to go deep into referencing the prequels due to the timeframe of the film, but I'd hope he does not feel the need to go out of the way to contradict them.

You know what else was distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator? The prequels. Fuck Lucas; he sold the shit and now they are where he can no longer hurt them. Pretend the prequels never happened and save the integrity of the first 3 films, please. RotJ was bad enough.
 
Can't wait for the EU fans to provide rich backstories with fantastic adventures connected implausibly to the big name characters for every single of these background guys.

Heavy-set beard guy is going to meet his end at the hands of Boba Fett. Because reasons.

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Love Star Wars up till the prequels and yeah Disney is a horrible company that does horrible things. Their impact on copy right law alone is damnation enough.



I mean i'm gonna go see it of course and I hope it's great but going by this trailer it's not looking good.

Disney's lawyers made this movie terrible. Riiiiiiight.
 
You know what else was distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator? The prequels. Fuck Lucas; he sold the shit and now they are where he can no longer hurt them. Pretend the prequels never happened and save the integrity of the first 3 films, please. RotJ was bad enough.

lmao people take this shit so seriously. they're pretty bad films but I ain't gonna shit on the dude who's responsible for everything the fans are going hype about today.

and for the record I still like Peter Jackson too despite the turd hobbit films.
 
Guess I'm in the vast minority. Looked meh to me. First the positives, cinematography and most ofl the acting looks great. Only bad acting I saw was Ford who is still not giving a single fuck about a performance. Wouldn't bother me if he was only gonna be in 10 minutes of the movie but going by the poster and the trailer he's gonna be a main character. Now the negatives, dialog is borderline cringe worthy. "Who are you?", "I'm no one", sounds like a Sonic the Edgehog fan story. "I was raised to do one thing but I got nothing to fight for" what does that even mean? "The force is calling to you, just let it in" I read that on a teenagers live journal ten years ago right? I'm willing to bed all them lines were written for a trailer then shoe horned into the movie. And I don't care how many times they show it the crucifix lightsaber looks dumb as fuck.


Also it's so fucking tacky who they are whoring this thing out and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Some place in my deep dark heart I hope this thing comes out and bombs just to burn Disney.

My hopes and dreams? The villain kills hans and chewie at the end and in a fit of rage Boyega knocks off the bad guys mask reveling Skywalker. Movie ends with Skywalker leaving Boyega and Ridley half dead on the battlefield before flying off.

You have to be trying very hard to read those lines as pretentious nothings. They're quite banal statements within the context of the story.

A scavenger being prodded for her identity. A stormtrooper who is out of the job. Someone being trained in the force.

Let the hate flow through you.
 
You know what else was distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator? The prequels. Fuck Lucas; he sold the shit and now they are where he can no longer hurt them. Pretend the prequels never happened and save the integrity of the first 3 films, please. RotJ was bad enough.
ok
 
Context tends to do wonders, you know
What are you even getting at? The dialog so far is 1 step away from "Nothing personal kid"

Disney's lawyers made this movie terrible. Riiiiiiight.

When did I say that?

You have to be trying very hard to read those lines as pretentious nothings. They're quite banal statements within the context of the story. A scavenger being prodded for her identity. A stormtrooper who is out of the military. Someone being trained in the force.

Let the hate flow through you.

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree. If this trailer didn't have the name Star Wars on it no one would give a second though to it.
 
Guess I'm in the vast minority. Looked meh to me. First the positives, cinematography and most ofl the acting looks great. Only bad acting I saw was Ford who is still not giving a single fuck about a performance. Wouldn't bother me if he was only gonna be in 10 minutes of the movie but going by the poster and the trailer he's gonna be a main character. Now the negatives, dialog is borderline cringe worthy. "Who are you?", "I'm no one", sounds like a Sonic the Edgehog fan story. "I was raised to do one thing but I got nothing to fight for" what does that even mean? "The force is calling to you, just let it in" I read that on a teenagers live journal ten years ago right? I'm willing to bed all them lines were written for a trailer then shoe horned into the movie. And I don't care how many times they show it the crucifix lightsaber looks dumb as fuck.


Also it's so fucking tacky who they are whoring this thing out and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Some place in my deep dark heart I hope this thing comes out and bombs just to burn Disney.

My hopes and dreams? The villain kills hans and chewie at the end and in a fit of rage Boyega knocks off the bad guys mask reveling Skywalker. Movie ends with Skywalker leaving Boyega and Ridley half dead on the battlefield before flying off.

Who hurt you?
 
About the poster image...

Is that really a Death Star/ Starkiller Base?

It looks to me like a helmet with a cybernetic eye lens. Almost Boba Fett-ish looking...

probably, but
the First Order didn't build it. the Resistance did. hence it's on the blue "Light Side" part of the poster

DON'T CLICK ON MY SPOILER TAGS UNLESS YOU ARE PREPARED FOR WHAT LIES WITHIN ffs
 
You know what else was distasteful as fuck and an insult to the fucking creator? The prequels. Fuck Lucas

Are you talking about God, when you mention the creator here?

Because I don't see how it's insulting to Lucas that Lucas made more movies that he thought would be good, and still probably thinks are good.
 
Guess I'm in the vast minority. Looked meh to me. First the positives, cinematography and most ofl the acting looks great. Only bad acting I saw was Ford who is still not giving a single fuck about a performance. Wouldn't bother me if he was only gonna be in 10 minutes of the movie but going by the poster and the trailer he's gonna be a main character. Now the negatives, dialog is borderline cringe worthy. "Who are you?", "I'm no one", sounds like a Sonic the Edgehog fan story. "I was raised to do one thing but I got nothing to fight for" what does that even mean? "The force is calling to you, just let it in" I read that on a teenagers live journal ten years ago right? I'm willing to bed all them lines were written for a trailer then shoe horned into the movie. And I don't care how many times they show it the crucifix lightsaber looks dumb as fuck.


Also it's so fucking tacky who they are whoring this thing out and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Some place in my deep dark heart I hope this thing comes out and bombs just to burn Disney.

My hopes and dreams? The villain kills hans and chewie at the end and in a fit of rage Boyega knocks off the bad guys mask reveling Skywalker. Movie ends with Skywalker leaving Boyega and Ridley half dead on the battlefield before flying off.

And here we go!
This will probably be the first one of many sure to follow.

Sigh...another 16 years of darkness...
 
No but the New Republic would certainly release the information to all Planetary governments who would probably let the info trickle down to the people. So yeah, only way I can justify that conversation is that Rey just didn't care (which is fine I won't argue that)

I figured you would say that so in return I will agree to disagree as well but well also say I just think you're convinced on trying to justify the lazy writing idea of the force being a galaxy wide myth.


I'm sure Rey as a scavenger of Star Destroyers isn't representative of the average person either. :)


Eh whatever, my point is if the Jedi are galaxy wide myths that's dumb. If Rey never heard about them it MIGHT be okay.

The problem we have is that from ROTJ to know, in the 30 years you seem to think there is a good government in place where my thought is that the last 30 years has been a constant state of war on a much smaller scale than the OT. You seem to have taken the end of ROTJ as a super happy ending. I don't think that's the case. And even with that said, they'll care more about rebuilding and less about blaming this on the Emperor and calling him a Sith. And really, Luke is really the only one that knows.

Love Star Wars up till the prequels and yeah Disney is a horrible company that does horrible things. Their impact on copy right law alone is damnation enough.

I mean i'm gonna go see it of course and I hope it's great but going by this trailer it's not looking good.

Again, we'll have to agree to vastly, hugely, way crazy disagree.
 
lmao people take this shit so seriously. they're pretty bad films but I ain't gonna shit on the dude who's responsible for everything the fans are going hype about today.

and for the record I still like Peter Jackson too despite the turd hobbit films.
serious. People shitting on the dude is some sad-ass behavior.
 
Guess I'm in the vast minority. Looked meh to me. First the positives, cinematography and most ofl the acting looks great. Only bad acting I saw was Ford who is still not giving a single fuck about a performance. Wouldn't bother me if he was only gonna be in 10 minutes of the movie but going by the poster and the trailer he's gonna be a main character. Now the negatives, dialog is borderline cringe worthy. "Who are you?", "I'm no one", sounds like a Sonic the Edgehog fan story. "I was raised to do one thing but I got nothing to fight for" what does that even mean? "The force is calling to you, just let it in" I read that on a teenagers live journal ten years ago right? I'm willing to bed all them lines were written for a trailer then shoe horned into the movie. And I don't care how many times they show it the crucifix lightsaber looks dumb as fuck.


Also it's so fucking tacky who they are whoring this thing out and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Some place in my deep dark heart I hope this thing comes out and bombs just to burn Disney.

My hopes and dreams? The villain kills hans and chewie at the end and in a fit of rage Boyega knocks off the bad guys mask reveling Skywalker. Movie ends with Skywalker leaving Boyega and Ridley half dead on the battlefield before flying off.

A lot of the dialog sounded like trailer dialog. Most blockbusters these days shoot scenes and lines which allow the trailer editors to pithily work in the main themes without giving anything away.
 
Can't wait for the EU fans to provide rich backstories with fantastic adventures connected implausibly to the big name characters for every single of these background guys.

Heavy-set beard guy is going to meet his end at the hands of Boba Fett. Because reasons.

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No that's Dando.

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It means he was raised to be an Imperial but doesn't personally care for their cause.

Doesn't really say that, he says he got nothing to fight for not that he doesn't fight for the empire. I mean I hope i'm wrong but I bet ya his story ark is not giving a shit to giving a shit because friendship or some such drivel

Who hurt you?

To many to count :(

And here we go!
This will probably be the first one of many sure to follow.

Sigh...another 16 years of darkness...

I don't understand? 16 years of people with different opinions is a bad thing?

A lot of the dialog sounded like trailer dialog. Most blockbusters these days shoot scenes and lines which allow the trailer editors to pithily work in the main themes without giving anything away.

And that's fine, but people are acting like this some some cultural event when in reality it's mass produced marketing
 
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