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[BocoDragon]

That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.

I admire people who are willing to pre-order a plate of crow so definitively.

 

[Fahrenheit]

This movie is honoring the heritage as much as it's financially benefiting from it.

Fans have been wanting a sequel and deserve one after PT.

Star Wars has a culture and it's going to have a field day.

You're wrong.

Why am I wrong? What about the trailer makes you think this movie will have any more of a impact then other JJ Abram movies?

The prequels are still remembered, and they came out more than 10 years ago....

Remembered for being horrible is not a good thing

Who cares, people who shitted for years on the franchise love it.

I love Star Wars, after i get done in this thread I'm gonna go watch all 6 moves in a marathon.

I admire people who are willing to pre-order a plate of crow so definitively.

What makes you think this movie will be any better then JJ Abrams other movies?

 

[boiled goose]

That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.

What????

People love the original movie and it is like 40 years old....
People across 3 generations are excited about this movie. My friends and I already got tickets for opening day. Something that wouldn't happen for any other movie I can think of.

You are completely wrong.

I mean sure, the trailer is just a trailer, but it is a trailer for the next star wars movie.

Why am I wrong? What about the trailer makes you think this movie will have any more of a impact then other JJ Abram movies?

The fact that is is STAR WARS?????

 

[ExVicis]

You respond rather dismissively

As did you. Your "And?" was a standoffish response to my post. You could have easily said something like "Yeah I suppose the main weapons of Star Wars cauterizing wounds would detract from the level of gore that would be otherwise present in a gunfight" or you could have said "Nah not always, remember when Luke cut the Wampa and it was bleeding all over? They could still have blood" or any number of things.

Instead you give me some sort of back-handed reply as if I said something completely worthless to you. So yes I responded dismissively to your dismissive post.

So what exactly is the point of saying that in relevance to my post unless you are challenging my opinion? And if you aren't then what was the point of those comments?? The only reason this continues is because you are being intentionally cryptic with explaining yourself and your reasonings.

I'm trying to have a discussion with you about elements of the movie that would contribute to the rating of the movie instead you want to have an argument. Again is this a regular thing for you? Do you purposefully try to antagonize people out of habit?

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Ahh yeah. Got my tickets. I didn't get it in time for the 7pm show but the 10pm show will do. Back row and in the middle.

 

[PsihoPerihelion]

Say what you want, but that was hype as hell. I'm glad J.J. is doing some inspired work on this one. It looks great and can't wait for this film, the Rian Johnson one and whoever directs the next one after that Trevorrow hack.

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Can't roll my eyes hard enough

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[Charles Foster Kane]

That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.

People already seen it?! Lucky bastards.

And about the trailer, it doesn't tell us a lot. That might be its best quality.

 

[gabbo]

So is Luke's story meant to be really secretive? We only get the hand on R2 this time.

 

[Zeyphersan]

By Luke's time, force users were pretty much extinct and considered relics of a bygone age who practiced some weird religion. No one knew the Emperor was a force user except for Vader, Yoda, and later Luke. Grand Moff Tarkin even said that Vader was the last living Force user in the original Star Wars because everyone else thought Obi-Wan Kenobi was dead. Luke was the last Jedi, and he only whipped out his saber to fight Vader and Jabba the Hutt on the barge.

The reason it seems different to us, is because we're following Luke's journey as a Jedi in the OT. Everyone else in that universe didn't see it from his vantage point. The only ones who experienced it first hand were Han and Leia because they were with him for most of it, and witnessed his exploits first hand (also Leia herself being force-sensitive). So for people outside of Luke's circle (i.e. people who were born years after RotJ), the Jedi, the dark side, the Force, just seems like fairy tales and urban legends.

In short, a person living in the Prequel era might see a Jedi in passing. A person living in the OT era hasn't seen a Jedi in decades. A person living in the new trilogy era has never seen a living Jedi, and their exploits were either tarnished by the Empire, or largely considered nothing more than tall tales.

So yeah, it makes sense.

Quality post

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Edit, not worth the effort.

 

[Daft_Cat]

Why am I wrong? What about the trailer makes you think this movie will have any more of a impact then other JJ Abram movies?

It's a sequel to Return of the Jedi, clown. You enjoying your 15 minutes?

 

[piratepwnsninja]

Can't roll my eyes hard enough

Oh, did you go back and read your own posts?

 

[Fliesen]

watched it 6 times over already - just for immunization purposes, so i don't tear up whenever i re-watch it again at work today.

i am so pumped.

got tickets for 10/17 at 00:01.

i still can't really comprehend that this is really happening.

just lol @ Fahrenheit. Grow a heart.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

So is Luke's story meant to be really secretive? We only get the hand on R2 this time.

Either he's a bad dude or he's the next Yoda.

Really only has a linear storyline compared to everyone else.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I had a guy on this very forum adamantly argue that Final Fantsy VII was as big or bigger a cultural icon than Star Wars. He kept calling it "your little space ship movie" while defending the impact of FFVII.

Some people.

You have a link to that by chance? It sounds like a great read.

 

[Jonm1010]

That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.

I mean, I'm not like falling over myself because of this trailer but its a bit hard to declare anything from a trailer. Lots of great movies have had lackluster trailers and lots of shitty movies have had great trailers.

At the very least this film seems to have all the parts in place to be at least an above average popcorn film.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Man, I am so jealous of Fahrenheits time machine, he is really a dick that he doesnt bring us some Blu-Rays of the movie.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Why am I wrong? What about the trailer makes you think this movie will have any more of a impact then other JJ Abram movies?

LOL

 

[orochi91]

Oh shit, Luke is a Sith now.

That would be hell of a twist if true

 

[gatti-man]

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree. If this trailer didn't have the name Star Wars on it no one would give a second though to it.

You couldn't be more wrong

 

[wolfhowwl]

Nothing will stand in our way. I will finish what you started.

Hyped.

 

[goober]

Regarding Luke... My buddy says

Spoiler

lukes dead and will be in holo form aka Ben kanobi. He says lukes very still in his shots and always in front of green screen.

Nah I think

Spoiler

Luke joined the Dark side and wants to finish what he (his father) started

Now I have nothing to back that up, and maybe my mind is just running wild cause I'm excited.

 

[Ghostmaster]

Why am I wrong? What about the trailer makes you think this movie will have any more of a impact then other JJ Abram movies?

This is ludicrous, even his Star Trek movies had a huge impact. The fact that there is going to be a trilogy of high budget Star Trek movies in this day and age is crazy. That alone may be enough to finally kickstart a new TV series.

Also let's completely forget that whole little show called Lost. Even though there are a lot of people who hated the way it ended, there's not a damn person that has forgotten it.

 

[foxtrot3d]

I had a guy on this very forum adamantly argue that Final Fantsy VII was as big or bigger a cultural icon than Star Wars. He kept calling it "your little space ship movie" while defending the impact of FFVII.

Some people.

What?!

 

[Perfect Cha0s]

Why am I wrong? What about the trailer makes you think this movie will have any more of a impact then other JJ Abram movies?

It's a direct story continuation of a culturally massive series spanning over 30 years. That alone means it's going to be big. Hell, you could make a case for the prequels being cash-grabs if you wanted, but they're hardly forgotten or culturally irrelevant.

 

[Nyanmaruz]

How many more episodes till we get to see an army of jedi and sith like the Old Republic!?

 

[Horse Detective]

Guys, What the hell.
Luke and Kylo are clearly two different characters.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

I had a guy on this very forum adamantly argue that Final Fantsy VII was as big or bigger a cultural icon than Star Wars. He kept calling it "your little space ship movie" while defending the impact of FFVII.

Some people.

What do you expect? Some people here live so much in their filtrebubble, its frightening.

 

[ExVicis]

Edit, not worth the effort.

What I understand Farenheit to be saying is that it's frustrating that people find this to be such a good movie trailer when it's really just like every other movie trailer if not for the Stormtroopers, Lightsabers and Star Wars in the text.

As I said this Star Wars Trailer I think is a way better or more aesthetically like Star Wars trailer than the one that was just released. Honestly this new trailer feels more like some corporate big shot said to JJ Abrams "You need to make your last trailer more by the numbers, make it more like this! Try to pander more to crowds with the big movie preview format" and just made him do a normal by the books trailer that we get for all the movies released nowadays.

 

[TCRS]

I NEED TO SE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!

oh man I fucking love the vibe. the decay, the 'what now?' atmosphere after the end of the empire, the soundtrack. man I can't wait.

Luke is obviously in the trailer after ROJ he had his face switched with Han to go into hiding unfortunately he went insane after living with Leia. Now Luke wants to take Hans face off he wants to take his face.....off

 

[Fahrenheit]

What????

People love the original movie and it is like 40 years old....
People across 3 generations are excited about this movie. My friends and I already got tickets for opening day. Something that wouldn't happen for any other movie I can think of.

You are completely wrong.

I mean sure, the trailer is just a trailer, but it is a trailer for the next star wars movie.



The fact that is is STAR WARS?????

People sure don't love prequels and they are STAR WARS

Say what you want, but that was hype as hell. I'm glad J.J. is doing some inspired work on this one. It looks great and can't wait for this film, the Rian Johnson one and whoever directs the next one after that Trevorrow hack.



There are other ways to fish a member tag, in case you don't know.

If my "inspired work" work you mean the same stuff he's been doing for years, great stuff for sure but the cultural revolution you guys think this is gonna be? Nah

People already seen it?! Lucky bastards.

And about the trailer, it doesn't tell us a lot. That might be its best quality.

It's a sequel to Return of the Jedi, clown. You enjoying your 15 minutes?

15 minutes of what? Plenty of great movies have shitty sequels.

Oh, did you go back and read your own posts?

Not sure what you are getting at, am I contradicting myself someplace?

I mean, I'm not like falling over myself because of this trailer but its a bit hard to declare anything from a trailer. Lots of great movies have had lackluster trailers and lots of shitty movies have had great trailers.

At the very least this film seems to have all the parts in place to be at least an above average popcorn film.

I agree 100%

LOL

You couldn't be more wrong

Nice debate man, you should run for office

This is ludicrous, even his Star Trek movies had a huge impact. The fact that there is going to be a trilogy of high budget Star Trek movies in this day and age is crazy. That alone may be enough to finally kickstart a new TV series.

Also let's completely forget that whole little show called Lost. Even though there are a lot of people who hated the way it ended, there's not a damn person that has forgotten it.

They did? Last I checked they where good action adventure movies that had little to no of feeling of the original movies. Yeah know the same way this new Star Wars movie is gonna be

It's a direct story continuation of a culturally massive series spanning over 30 years. That alone means it's going to be big. Hell, you could make a case for the prequels being cash-grabs if you wanted, but they're hardly forgotten or culturally irrelevant.

I dunno, they seem culturally irrelevant to me, the prequels that is. Outside of being a case of the emperor's new clothes that Lucas had going for them all they where known for was bad acting and Jar Jar

 

[OriginofHysteria]

Guys, What the hell.
Luke and Kylo are clearly two different characters.

Doesn't mean Luke can't play a Palpatine role!

 

[Jarmel]

That framing is fucking ace.

God damn. Abrams is definitely bringing his A game.

 

[bomma_man]

Is Adam driver playing a pretentious arsehole from Brooklyn?

 

[Horse Detective]

Doesn't mean Luke can't play a Palpatine role!

This is so far fetched and bizarre. Lol

 

[Brawndo Addict]

Remembered for being horrible is not a good thing

I have to single this out as a particularly nonsensical objection. Cultural relevancy is not defined by how positively something is remembered. OJ Simpson and his trial are a cultural touchstone regardless of the fact that it revolves around someone being murdered. Cult films like 'The Room' are another great example where something is popular specifically because it is horrible. Donald Trump's campaign for President will be long remembered, but no one's going to argue that it's not culturally relevant because it's stupid or embarassing. Waterworld is still remembered for being a colossal flop, etc, etc.

 

[Erevador]

Dude I really like star wars too but you just made some bold claims that are outside the scope of this thread. The fact Star Wars was such an out of nowhere hit is what makes it amazing.

Nothing I said there is particularly outside the mainstream of thought on this. There's a lot of writing that puts the runaway success of Star Wars into the context of the cultural moment in which it arrived. Campbell himself talked beautifully about why it connected with modern audiences.

This new movie looks like its abusing that heritage, I think this new Star Wars will be no better or worse then the last Star Trek movie, good movie but forgotten a few years later.

I very much disagree.

I am a Star Trek fan, but it has always been a niche franchise. It has been an incredibly enduring and successful niche, but one that can be understood in the context of very successful sci-fi entertainment.

Star Wars is on another scale. It is a huge populist event.

There have been like four genuinely awful Star Trek movies, but none of them have ever aroused the kind of furor that the prequels did. No one talks as viciously about Final Frontier (which is as bad as the prequels) as they do the prequel films. Those are still a hot button issue even today. Star Wars movies, even bad ones, are such a major cultural event that their impact lingers for decades.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

This is so far fetched and bizarre. Lol

I know lol. I want to believe Luke is a bad guy but in reality he's probably gonna show up at the end or something

 

[Jarmel]

The best part about that trailer was Ren just swag walking up to Finn.

 

[boiled goose]

People sure don't love prequels and they are STAR WARS

People still talk about the prequels. Your post suggested that no one will remember this movie. That is what is wrong. Even if it sucks, people will remember it and talk about it.

 

[More_Badass]

What I understand Farenheit to be saying is that it's frustrating that people find this to be such a good movie trailer when it's really just like every other movie trailer if not for the Stormtroopers, Lightsabers and Star Wars in the text.

As I said this Star Wars Trailer I think is a way better or more aesthetically like Star Wars trailer than the one that was just released. Honestly this trailer feels more like some corporate big shot said to JJ Abrams "You need to make your last trailer more by the numbers, make it more like this!" and just made him do a normal by the books trailer that we get for all the movies released nowadays.

The New 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' Trailer Is Not For You

 

[wolfhowwl]

I had a guy on this very forum adamantly argue that Final Fantsy VII was as big or bigger a cultural icon than Star Wars. He kept calling it "your little space ship movie" while defending the impact of FFVII.

Some people.

Hahaha, link please!

 

[DonMigs85]

That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.

Your average Joe won't talk about it, but the fans will. We still talk about Episode III over 10 years later. Stop being so negative

 

[GAMEPROFF]

People still talk about the prequels. Your post suggested that no one will remember this movie. That is what is wrong. Even if it sucks, people will remember it and talk about it.

This. Star Wars is world biggest entertainment brand, even if the movie is utter shit, it will be becoming part of popculture for the next 25 years immediately

 

[BocoDragon]

What makes you think this movie will be any better then JJ Abrams other movies?

It's Star Wars.

There is no way on earth that people won't be discussing these movies for decades.

Forget the director. It's irrelevant.

Again, I'm wondering if you were too young for the prequels because I just can't believe you don't see how even those shitty movies commanded MASS cultural attention and instantly became discussed forevermore.

 

[More_Badass]

The ironic thing about "finishing what you started" is that Vader redeemed himself in the end

 

[Fliesen]

I know lol. I want to believe Luke is a bad guy but in reality he's probably gonna show up at the end or something

this.

I think Luke's only really coming back to the new trilogy in part 2, when someone needs some serious Jedi training.

I don't mind them not shoving every single fan-service re-appearance into the same movie, really. It should be focussed on the new cast, anyways.

 

[Brokun]

Anyone have a different link? This one isn't doing anything for me.

Right-click "download", save link as...

 

[CreepingFear]

Can't stop watching the trailer. Halp.

 

[Dennis]

Europe is starting to wake up and I am heading to bed.

Read the thread, Euros.