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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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Luke Skywalker was on a solo path ever since the Battle of Hoth. He showed up during ROTJ on a battle cruiser for like a day to volunteer for a mission. Then left that mission where no one else knew where he was. Then he showed back up on Endor after the victory. Nobody but Han & Leia knew where Luke was.

I see, that make sense.
 
say what you will about his films but nothing beats the nolan-hype threads. batgaf was GOAT.

everything since hasn't been as entertaining. all the shit posting, the memes etc.

Yup batgaf was pretty great I hope the signal will get raised again if Batman vs Superman turns out okay. I think we could get something special with Afflecks first solo film.
 
Though I'm not quite sure what Nien Nunb did besides complaining and making Lando's straight maneuvers green.

- He warned Lando that the shield may still be up, causing Lando to question and pull out just in time before his ship crashed into the shield.

- He warned Lando to watch out for that bulkhead coming up which caused Lando to maneuver just enough so he only lost his communication tower.

Nien Nunb saved the day :)
 
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If one of those dudes is Iko Uwais I'm going to flip my shit so fucking hard.

I'd be more surprised if he wasn't one of them
 
I think the only shot I didn't like was at 0:48. The way the camera pushes it so quickly and smoothly, it sort of feels like a videogame cutscene with a virtual camera. Just felt a bit odd to me. Every other shot looked really good.
 
- He warned Lando that the shield may still be up, causing Lando to question and pull out just in time before his ship crashed into the shield.

- He warned Lando to watch out for that bulkhead coming up which caused Lando to maneuver just enough so he only lost his communication tower.

Nien Nunb saved the day :)
I need to watch that movie again so I can appreciate the contributions of Endor's true hero Nien Nunb.

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Something tells me that if the forum piled on to a not insignificant number of people that loved the trailer, demanding explanation after explanation to qualify their opinion, they too would end up not making a lot of sense.

I can't speak for everyone but it's not his opinion I'm arguing about. It's about proclaiming to know the quality of a film when that person hasn't even seen it.

Who was talking about the prequels 2 years ago? Also this movie will be good enough to not be remembered as bad. It will be bland and fit for mass consumption

That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years.

Just bums me out everyone is acting like it's gonna be A New Hope again when it's gonna be more Revenge of the Sith

That's impossible.

Instead of getting a response to this all I got was insults. Oh well, this isn't on topic at all so now I'm shitting up the thread. I'm done with it.
 
2 shots of ford acting the same way he did in the last indie. "operatic, high-intensity story like Star Wars" Ok, I know Space Opera and all but the original star wars didn't have that dialog. The prequels did though,...

Nah, the prequels had terrible dialogue, and I'd challenge you to find anything in this trailer that approaches the bit about the irritation of sand, and the getting of it everywhere.

I really don't think your motives in this debate are honest, and it's pretty shitty to see. Alright, now I'm done.
 
People not knowing about the Jedi/Force/Sith is totally believable and sensible for VII. Abrhams hasn't been subtle about his love for the original trilogy over the prequels, and how that's inspired his work on the new films.

It's not even a matter of considering the canon and the oddities of the prequel trilogy's Jedi order fading out of memory so quickly. Fact is in the original trilogy, which is the most recent Star Wars history, Jedi/Force/Sith are borderline mythological quantities. Regardless of believability due to what the prequels introduce, that's just how it is. The Emperor hides behind the scenes and nobody is really aware he is force active. Vader rarely showcases his power, and even then has his sensitivity to the force mocked. Yoda and Obi Wan are in hiding. Circa Episode 4 the whole idea of the Force is basically that of a dead language or religion; text and records probably exist, but culture has moved on in absence of their activity. The galaxy is busy; busy waging war, busy rebelling. People like Solo consider it whimsical mumbo jumbo for good reason; in a galaxy where Rebels are fighting to survive against an imperialistic nightmare, believing in space magic is a dangerous waste of thought. With nobody around to demonstrate an alternative, nobody has any reason to believe.

Luke walks the path, is force sensitive, and develops. But even he doesn't really showcase it much. And a lot of what he does showcase could easily be excused by observers as skill. It's only when fighting Vader and the Emperor does he really start showing greater mystical abilities. Every other action simply presents him as a highly competent soldier.

So the real question sits on what happened post-ROTJ. In what ways the force continued to manifest in both Luke and Leia, who are at that point the only known force sensitive people in the entire galaxy, only one of which has been marginally trained. And how they utilised and expressed that sensitivity. For both it may have been something very private, something they considered very dangerous.

If both were unwilling to make a big song and dance about being force sensitive, a post-ROTJ galaxy would be no different to the rest of the trilogy timeline. Outside of folk close to the two of them, like Han, Jedi/Sith/Force remains mythological fantasy and old timey mumbo jumbo.
 
I think the only shot I didn't like was at 0:48. The way the camera pushes it so quickly and smoothly, it sort of feels like a videogame cutscene with a virtual camera. Just felt a bit odd to me. Every other shot looked really good.

You'd rather have shaky cam? Fuck shaky cam.
 
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Permit me to post potential spoilers, but I think

Luke Skywalker Dies in the film. We know that Kylo Ren loves Darth Vader, so It would make sense for him to seek out and kill the person who murdered Vader. He probably doesnt know that Vader betrayed and murdered Sidious.

Anyway the following shots from the trailer is what leads me to think this:

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The way I see it, Luke is off doing his own thing, Kylo Ren starts burning houses near Lukes location with Phasma. Luke realizing that this is the end sends away R2 to warn the others of what is coming and he goes off to fight Kylo Ren.



Would that be a possibility or am I just rambling.
 
Luke Skywalker was on a solo path ever since the Battle of Hoth. He showed up during ROTJ on a battle cruiser for like a day to volunteer for a mission. Then left that mission where no one else knew where he was. Then he showed back up on Endor after the victory. Nobody but Han & Leia knew where Luke was.

That's pretty interesting, actually.

Now that the EU is flushed, there's a lot of presumptions we might have about the SW story that are no longer true.

Like I always unconsciously assumed that between Empire and Jedi that Luke, Leia and Lando had all these meaningless adventures together... because they did. Shadows of the fucking Empire, etc.

But now it kind of looks like Luke starts going Lone Monk after Hoth, as you say.... interesting...
 
You guys keep banging on about this cultural event stuff. I've made my point 20 times over about that, we went back and forth on it. Whats important to me is a good movie, you guys can keep your cultural event

Obsess over the quality of everything and lose sight of having fun with anything.
 
At 1:02 is Kylo Ren trying to use the jedi mind trick on oscar isaac's character?

Seems like he is trying to break his mind with the position of his hand lol

The speculation is that he's either torturing him mentally with the Force or he is showing him destruction caused by Starkiller Base, since the next shot is the forest getting annihilated.

I need to watch that movie again so I can appreciate the contributions of Endor's true hero Nien Nunb.

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I hope you appreciate his contribution in Episode VII, too!
 
I'm pretty sure it's confirmed that they're in the movie, just nobody knows who they're playing yet

I just thought they were helping with fight choreography and stunts but damn this is just perfect. It never even occurred to me that would see other member of the Knights of Ren. Goddam I'm hyped.
 
Nah, the prequels had terrible dialogue, and I'd challenge you to find anything in this trailer that approaches the bit about the irritation of sand, and the getting of it everywhere.

I really don't think your motives in this debate are honest, and it's pretty shitty to see. Alright, now I'm done.

Honest? What? It's shitty to see someone with a different point of view?

Obsess over the quality of everything and lose sight of having fun with anything.

I'm gonna gonna see it, and like I said a billion times. It's gonna give me the same amount of joy Star Trek or Jurassic World. Ill enjoy myself while i'm in the theater then probably never think about ti again
 
Obsess over the quality of everything and lose sight of having fun with anything.

I don't think he's actually talking about a lack of quality.

He's hating. I mean that literally... he picked a knee-jerk emotional stance of "ugh" and all his reasoning is designed to prop up this fact of it being objectively bad.

I know people can debate like this because I saw it a lot in my youth and early 20s. It sucks because it sucks because it sucks.
 
I just thought they were helping with fight choreography and stunts but damn this is just perfect. It never even occurred to me that would see other member of the Knights of Ren. Goddam I'm hyped.

Imagine all of them fighting at once, the insanity that will look like. It looks like Kylo is the only one with the "lightsaber", one of them has a club, another a staff, they each have a unique weapon by the looks of it.
 
I'm glad they didn't show Luke in his full Jedi Master regalia. His entrance will have audiences around the world going bonkers, reviling in pure joy.
 
Slowly getting the horrible taste of the prequels out of my mind. Still hate the new stormtrooper helmets, other than that it looks good.

gonna make an insane amount of money and i'm excited to play my part.

I don't get posts like this though. You are excited to contribute to the profits of a large company? I'm excited to watch the movie.
 
Would that be a possibility or am I just rambling.

I don't know. It's possible, but Luke should be OP as fuck at this point. He ain't much of a duelist, but his mastery of the force is fucking epic, like Yoda level shit. I could see him going out at the end of the trilogy, but I don't know about the first movie.
 
There's a term for this... character arc.

Actually... it's kind of needed. Han clearly would have been more increasingly more receptive to the concept of the Force and Jedi, but he didn't get a lot of chance to express it in ROTJ.

Him of all people testifying to the power of the Jedi is powerful.
 
Oh my god, such restraint. Oh my god. Oh my goooooooood. Please hire whoever did this trailer to do all future trailers for all films.

Less than 2 months to gooooo
 
Slowly getting the horrible taste of the prequels out of my mind. Still hate the new stormtrooper helmets, other than that it looks good.



I don't get posts like this though. You are excited to contribute to the profits of a large company? I'm excited to watch the movie.

playing the part = going to see the movie
 
Key is never let others on the internet ruin your positivity.

A child-like excitement and optimism is something to hold sacred and you should feel pity for them as they have lost that.

I got goosebumps and I actually got misty-eyed. It must suck to never be able to experience the same feelings I can due to cynicism.
Well said, the trailer is too good from some people it seems.
 
I don't know. It's possible, but Luke should be OP as fuck at this point. He ain't much of a duelist, but his mastery of the force is fucking epic, like Yoda level shit. I could see him going out at the end of the trilogy, but I don't know about the first movie.

We would hope that, but Abrams may keep in tone with the Originals and the force use wouldnt be as big as lets say the Force Unleashed
 
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