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While still crap, TPM doesn't have a cringe inducing love story, so it ranks as the better piece of crap.
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer
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While still crap, TPM doesn't have a cringe inducing love story, so it ranks as the better piece of crap.
It has the WORST child actor, though.
Liamario
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I'm concerned about the new movie. Not because of what they've shown, but because of what they haven't shown.
While Star Wars has its dramatic moments, it also had some levity to it. Something that hasn't been seen in any of the footage. I'm worried that the movie is going to be a good movie, but it will take itself too seriously.
While Star Wars has its dramatic moments, it also had some levity to it. Something that hasn't been seen in any of the footage. I'm worried that the movie is going to be a good movie, but it will take itself too seriously.
They're both bad but at least TPM had some cool lightsaber action and had a good balance between practical/digital effects. Aside from Christopher Lee there is nothing worth watching in AotC, plus it looks like a cutscene from a 2003 video game.
That's the thing that bothers me with other trailers; they show the lightness, the jokes, the quips over and over and by the time you see the movie, that line or scene or moment no longer works.
That little scene with Han and Chewie where Han smiles and goes "Chewie, we're home", that hints towards a movie that's not totally serious and knows to take it's foot off the accelarator once in a while.
Lé Blade Runner
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Empire Strikes Back was pretty dark and serious in tone, though. I am sure that there are moments of comic relief in The Force Awakens, and that they are handed well ( as in, no Jar-Jar! ).
Liamario
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I have a sinking feeling in my stomach and I can't seem to shake it. I hope I'm wrong. I know we don't have another prequel scenario here, but I'm still a little concerned. Until review time or even the movie itself, I'm going to be concerned.
Lé Blade Runner;182536559 said:
It definitely did, but there was always a sense of fun throughout. Maybe tv spots will give us a better sense of that.
DiipuSurotu
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The droids, Chewie and to an extent Yoda provided a lot of funny scenes in ESB. Lando greeting his "old friend" Han was hilarious also.
Liamario
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Joke are all fine, but the tone of the movie doesn't want to be too serious. I'd even suggest that the dramatic moments have more impact when contrasted with a tone of fun and adventure.
Dreams-Visions
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With respect, it does t need to have a sense of "fun". A sense of adventure? Sure. Some moments that make you smile? Yep. But trying to force in "the funny" is part of what fucked up the prequels. Light moments among the serious, intense and dark are more than enough and was the approach in the OT. If you need punch lines, jokes and comic relief like we saw in Age of Ultron, my true hope is that you end up very disappointed.
They were also never distracting and said conversations never took you out of the moments. That's important. Humor has to handles with care and moderation so as to not become a focal point. It's all about generating a smile, but not necessarily a laugh. For lack of better wording.
Stiflers Mom
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I was 25 when I saw TPM, and I rate it above AOTC (which is basically deciding which turd is more polished, but well)..
TPM at least feel somehow kind of remotely "star warsy" to me.
AOTC (and in way ROTS as well) plays in a completely different universe for me.
Strangely enough, I think Jake Lloyds performance is better than what Hayden Christensen delivered.
It's shitty, but forgivable, because he was a young dude and George Lucas told him what to say.
Christensen on the other side... well...
Liamario
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about punchlines or jokes, far from it. Lighter moments and indeed some humour on occasion. But like I said, we haven't seen a hint of any of that.
StopMakingSense
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Nah, he's not Avatar: The Last Airbender bad.
efyu_lemonardo
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Man I wonder how it feels to be George Lucas right now
Lifejumper
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Pretty crazy that he didnt want any new sw movie before the buyout.
I think there will be moments of levity in it, they're just focusing on more somber aspects in the trailer because it pulls on your emotions a bit more.
There'll be light moments but hopefully they won't go full on slapstick like the prequels sometimes did.
I wanted to post a gif of the super battle droids slipping in some oil and falling on it's arse but can't find one, so the scene of R2D2 running into a wall that I don't even remember happening will have to do.
There'll be light moments but hopefully they won't go full on slapstick like the prequels sometimes did.
I wanted to post a gif of the super battle droids slipping in some oil and falling on it's arse but can't find one, so the scene of R2D2 running into a wall that I don't even remember happening will have to do.
UnforgivenTwin
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What? George Lucas is still alive.
I don't blame Christensen for ANYTHING. Natalie Portman was just as bad and she is normally excellent. Those movies made Samuel L Jackson seem charmless and uncharismatic.
I actually also kind of agree with the Nostalgia Critic that even though his line readings are HORRIBLE, he actually is menacing and intense physically.
DiipuSurotu
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What if Lucas watches the trailer and eventually the film and likes it? I know there is still good in him.
I'm pretty sure he's said he's going to see it in film, and is looking forward to it enough that he's avoiding promotional material so he can go in blind.
Lifejumper
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Shit forgive my grammar.
I'd like to think Lucas would like it.
If anything he might dislike the fact there won't be much backlash against the new films if they're good, so he could get a bit jealous that his own vision for star wars wasn't as accepted but I doubt he really cares that much at this point.
efyu_lemonardo
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he's more machine than man now
Sparrowhawk
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Not a huge Star Wars fan, but this trailer is badass. I just hope the movie lives up to it.
Lucas was seduced by the dark side of CGI.
efyu_lemonardo
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yeah that's what I was getting at. He used to be very adamant about how younger generations love the new SW stuff, as if to say fans of the OT have nostalgia goggles on. I wonder how he'll feel if this new trilogy turns out to be loved by old and new fans alike.
UnforgivenTwin
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Twisted and evil
efyu_lemonardo
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He deserves to make another well received film in his lifetime.
I wonder how many quotes or moments from the new films (if any) will become parts of pop culture like the OT.
There's just so much memorable and quotable shit in those movies, but then with the PT it was just so forgettable and the stuff I do remember is just stuff that is funny in an unintentional way.
"I don't like sand" etc.
"from my point of view the jedi are evil"
"now this is podracing"
"It's treason, then" *RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEE*
Actually, I will say that I do enjoy the order 66 sequence now and then, I'll admit to feeling a bit emotional at that part of ROTS, even if we didn't really know or care about many of these characters. But it could have all been so easily avoided in the films that it's kindof their own fault for being so fucking dumb.
There's just so much memorable and quotable shit in those movies, but then with the PT it was just so forgettable and the stuff I do remember is just stuff that is funny in an unintentional way.
"I don't like sand" etc.
"from my point of view the jedi are evil"
"now this is podracing"
"It's treason, then" *RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEE*
Actually, I will say that I do enjoy the order 66 sequence now and then, I'll admit to feeling a bit emotional at that part of ROTS, even if we didn't really know or care about many of these characters. But it could have all been so easily avoided in the films that it's kindof their own fault for being so fucking dumb.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
And then releases the OT original theatrical cuts! (lol)
Liamario
Banned
I would like him to, but I don't think he's up to the task. His imagination needs to be reigned in by someone else.
UnforgivenTwin
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Then she turns to the camera with a wry smile and winks.
efyu_lemonardo
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He recently wrote the story for a cg fairy tail kid's movie which apparently bombed. I have faith that as long as he keeps working he'll improve.
He just needs someone with actual competence and balls to tell him when his ideas are shit and when they're good.
Lucas is a great "Idea guy", but just like in game development, you should never let an idea guy who has no other skills run the whole show.
As silly as it sounds, the fanboy in me is a little sad Luke never got to be the legendary jedi he was supposed to become. He instead lived a life of isolation and will probably end with a sacrificial death. I mean, the jedi were supposed to return but now it's "well they briefly returned but left again". We never saw him in his prime. 
What happens if New Fans don't like it though? And that it's only Old Fans who like it with their Nostalgia Goggles?
Will Lucas be redeemed?
Because so far, it seems like they are pandering to Old Fans only and that New Fans might get lost in the shuffle.
But who are the most vocal about this? The old folks who can't get over the fact that they are old and Star Wars was always a pretty average series to begin with which is just used to sell things now...and they fall for it!
If there is a callback like that, I will leave the cinema as that will rpove my point that they are aiming at tugging at the minds of the Old Fans for approval and money and are relying on callbacks.
It's a good thing you guys brought up humor in the previous movies, as the one aspect of TFA I'm REALLY worried about is tone. But what has me concerned is not the prospect of the film being too light-hearted, but that it will be too violent.
I mean, JJ had Khan fucking crush a man's skull in Star Trek. I don't want that Game of Thrones shit in Star Wars.
I mean, JJ had Khan fucking crush a man's skull in Star Trek. I don't want that Game of Thrones shit in Star Wars.
Sounds like a pretty overreaction for an easter egg.
Okay, maybe not leave the cinema, but the amount of things i've read where people want the fill to reference so much of the OT...why not just watch the OT?
WadiumArcadium
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I don't really see this. Obviously they are trying to use nostalgia to their advantage in a lot of the marketing, wouldn't you? Lucasfilm know the OT is the part of Star Wars that is most revered by the fans, young and old. But then most of the footage in the trailers has featured the new characters in the foreground. Rey and Finn are the main characters. Mark Hamill's reiterated that this film and most likely the other two in the trilogy will be a passing of the torch to the new characters.
Things are not that clear cut. Some old fans will like it, some won't. Some new fans will like it, some won't. In the end, it's probably going to be a good movie with or without callbacks.
Yautja_Warrior
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People complain when a trailer shows too much of a movie (something I totally agree with) and now people are complaining because they haven't shown every little detail of the movie. Do people really not want to be surprised anymore ?
Personally, I'm very pleased that the trailers have shown just enough, while leaving the plot details out, so I don't know everything that's going to happen, going into this at the cinema.
Personally, I'm very pleased that the trailers have shown just enough, while leaving the plot details out, so I don't know everything that's going to happen, going into this at the cinema.
I don't know, maybe i'm just worried that it won't be as good as I want it to be...
...or maybe I secretly want it to fail to watch the Internet crumble.
Already got tickets to watch it twice though, so they've got me.
PhoenixDark
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Looks good but I can't get super hyped. It's still a JJ Abrams movie. He hasn't directed anything of note, and instead is basically a master at nostalgia manipulation. What better franchise to do that with than Star Wars...
That being said there's no way this can possibly be worse than the prequels.
That being said there's no way this can possibly be worse than the prequels.
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