Do you think Halo 5 will live up to expectations?

Oh bugger off. I've enjoyed countless hours playing campaign splitscreen, and a decent amount of competitive MP too. Since Halo CE the series has defined local co-op for me. I've never had more fun with video games.

To me, a huge part of Halo is local co-op. I guess it's easy to be dismissive when you're not personally affected by a major feature cut.

So you think Halo is all about being able to play Co-op? Well good for you I guess? That does not make Halo, Halo. Of course its very definition is different to everyone, but saying that people forgot what makes a Halo, Halo, as the other poster stated, is just BS. Where does that leave things that actually matter? Like gameplay? Because the gameplay in 5 is the best it has been since Halo 2.

Split screen being gone from MP is all good as far as I am concerned, I have had nothin but bad times due to it.
 
Split screen being gone from MP is all good as far as I am concerned, I have had nothin but bad times due to it.

I concur. If you played splitscreen in the MCC, it was nearly unplayable in Halo 3 and beyond. The framerate was extremely uneven, never holding a steady 45FPS, much less 60.

If you still think Halo 5 could've had splitscreen, you should do some readups on the tech at work in the game. You'd eventually realize it's not actually possible without the game either looking like a muddy mess, or a stutter-fest.
 
I feel like my hype has already climaxed and now I'm back down to a healthy optimistic and excited level. I don't expect it to be a perfect game. I just want it to be good.

The potential is there for something great. I'm optimistic that 343 will deliver.
 
Campaign is the only thing that can disappoint me at this point. I've played enough of the beta to not worry about multiplayer.
 
So you think Halo is all about being able to play Co-op? Well good for you I guess? That does not make Halo, Halo. Of course its very definition is different to everyone, but saying that people forgot what makes a Halo, Halo, as the other poster stated, is just BS. Where does that leave things that actually matter? Like gameplay? Because the gameplay in 5 is the best it has been since Halo 2.
Yes, Halo is all about co-op. If you go back and read my post, you'll note that's exactly what I said.

You claim that the essence of Halo is different for everyone, and in the same paragraph you tell me exactly what it is and what it's not. Sorry, but your personal opinion doesn't magically invalidate the experiences of people like me who loved local co-op to the point that it defined Halo for them. The majority of my best Halo memories come from campaign co-op. It's always been supported as part of the core package, at least in Bungie's Halo games. In fact, a huge part of Halo's early success was LAN play. But I guess local multiplayer in any form doesn't count as gameplay? For some reason?

Anyway, there's nothing to be done about it now. I'll play the campaign on launch day, but co-op is out of my reach for the time being because my connection is awful. So yeah, the cutting of splitscreen is definitely going to impact my long term enjoyment of the game, no matter how great the mechanics are. Those afternoons where I'd boot up a Halo game with some friends on an impulse aren't possible with Halo 5.

Split screen being gone from MP is all good as far as I am concerned, I have had nothin but bad times due to it.
I will say I didn't enjoy having some dude with two guests quit in the middle of a match.
 
So you think Halo is all about being able to play Co-op? Well good for you I guess? That does not make Halo, Halo. Of course its very definition is different to everyone, but saying that people forgot what makes a Halo, Halo, as the other poster stated, is just BS. Where does that leave things that actually matter? Like gameplay? Because the gameplay in 5 is the best it has been since Halo 2.

Ridiculous... Especially because Halo has allways been built for Split Screen Coop'; especially because Halo CE did not have XBL and you had to play on local split screen, and especially because Halo 5 IS BUILT WITH COOP IN MIND.

Split screen being gone from MP is all good as far as I am concerned, I have had nothin but bad times due to it.

Good for you. Really. But if you can't have fun on local split screen with your friend, it's making me sad.

Concerning my point of view, I don't care anymore about split screen. I don't have anyone to play anymore. But your whole speech is ridiculous. Halo was built on several pillars, and local split screen was one of the biggest.
 
So you think Halo is all about being able to play Co-op? Well good for you I guess? That does not make Halo, Halo. Of course its very definition is different to everyone, but saying that people forgot what makes a Halo, Halo, as the other poster stated, is just BS. Where does that leave things that actually matter? Like gameplay? Because the gameplay in 5 is the best it has been since Halo 2.

Split screen being gone from MP is all good as far as I am concerned, I have had nothin but bad times due to it.
Man the fanboys are out in spades today. Halo was built on splitscreen and without it, it's a really bad thing.

I am hopeful on Halo 5 but i am also skeptical. It will have to be one of the best halo games to hit expectations and I am not convinced it will happen. I am hoping the community stays around for the multiplayer but they did disappear from Halo 4 quite fast.
 
I dont know. If the co op experience feels fun and the levels have more of the classic Halo feel over 4 being quite like Halo's take on a corridor shooter...then sure.

I hope so
 
After playing the beta, I have no doubts that It will be a VERY good Halo game. I haven't seen the hype levels so high since halo 2, and thats a good thing to me. 343 has learned a lot over these last few years, and I have faith in them making a solid overall package for us to play and enjoy next week.
 
Man the fanboys are out in spades today. Halo was built on splitscreen and without it, it's a really bad thing.

I am hopeful on Halo 5 but i am also skeptical. It will have to be one of the best halo games to hit expectations and I am not convinced it will happen. I am hoping the community stays around for the multiplayer but they did disappear from Halo 4 quite fast.

I guess If you see past the split screen issue, you become a fanboy. I played a ton of co-op with my brother back in the day, I still will over Live.

Just FYI.. I also disappeared from H4 after playing that mess of a mode called infinity multiplayer. I am glad that H5 seems to be fixing that in a big way.
 
So first question, what's your prediction on units moved in the first 24 hours? First month?
I wish the videogame industry has "clear" data for weekly sales in regions & worldwide similar to the accuracy and transparency of the movie industry.
 
Man the fanboys are out in spades today. Halo was built on splitscreen and without it, it's a really bad thing.
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i always laugh when i read shit like this. it's 2015, not many people do split screen often these days. And honeslty split screen sucked, you viewed HALF THE SCREEN. It was only cool because no one was really on live and a majority of gamers were in their teens. It's not the case anymore. If it were, if it truly was that vital to the experience and it would piss off a majority of gamers they'd find a way to incorporate it. But of course you'll get that small niche of people being incredibly vocal and make it seem like people give a shit.

People act like Halo 4 was some failure sales wise or something. It was the best Halo launch and the third best selling video game in NA in 2012. Best launch year for a MS Studios title too. Yes the population dwindled, but dont act like it wasn't still a juggernaut.

Halo will never be a failure sales wise. Just like COD wont any time soon. There's too many people out there attached to the franchises right now. Maybe in another 4-5 years the franchise could take a monster hit but not now.

Halo 4 was bad. It was really bad. It's why i'm still on the fence to actually go out and purchase Halo 5. I keep asking myself "will i get bored of this MP after 2 weeks?" i can't yet answer it. I want to get it at launch but i may hold off a week, two, or maybe even a month before i decide. It looks good, but so far i haven't seen anything that will give me the addiction to play it for months.
 
I don't think it will. I havent really seen any heavy advertisements like previous halos. It'll probably do just fine critically and sales.
Buy it won't live up to the expectations that some have towards it.
 
I literally just bought a Xbox to play coop with my brother after learning split screen was gone, glad I lifted my blind goggles to read up on this game, I would have been very upset to know split screen was omitted day of. Guess Microsoft wins
 
Halo 4's split screen (campaign and multiplayer) made the frame rate absolutely unplayable for me. It made me and my friends quit due to it affecting gameplay drastically.

I would choose a solid 60 FPS over split screen in a heart beat.
 
If Halo was truly defined by its split-screen experience instead of being a feature the minority of its audience wants at this point, it would still be in the game.

I think its honestly that simple.

Ill miss it, but not as much as ill enjoy not worrying about gamertag(1) and gamertag(2) shooting at the floor like they have never held a controller and teamkilling cause you picked up a power weapon first.
 
I do wonder if Halo 5 will have a good and high player count in MP, didn't the last 2 games have very low player count in MP a few months after the games came out?
 
Short answer, yes.

Long answer, hell yes. I don't even own an X1, but this is one of those games I'd buy one for if I had just a little less self control. It looks gorgeous, it's crafted very well, and they are trying new, exciting things in multiplayer.

Oh, and it's Halo. This game is going to be great, sell great, and have tremendous staying power I believe.
 
Does anything? The dream is always bigger than the reality.

I'll content myself with it being a good game, and it's looking like it will deliver in a lot of meaningful ways.
 
I do wonder if Halo 5 will have a good and high player count in MP, didn't the last 2 games have very low player count in MP a few months after the games came out?

Halo 4 did yeah. But it tried to be COD and then COD came out.
Halo 5 is more getting back to the roots. Sure its nothing new but compared to every other standard shooter this day its a fresh. Putting skill back in fps games. And i think that will sustain a good playerbase in combination with free maps.
 
Depends on who's expectations we are talking about IMO. The Halo community seems pretty split on practically which mainstream Halo game is the peak of the series, so whichever portion Halo 5 appeals to the most will likely the most satisfied the title. Though I've read complaints that Halo 4 deviated too much from the core gameplay, if Halo 5 is indeed a return to that I can see a fair amount of people being happy with the game at least.

I'm sure it will sell well, in terms of exclusives it's the only one the Xbox One has for the holiday season. While COD and Battlefront have their fans and marketing machine, I'm sure MS likely has one hell of a campaign blitz prepared for Halo 5's release, they'll really need Halo 5 to meet sales expectations. Of course, the release of MCC will give them some trouble in maintaining goodwill, though it seems Halo 5 won't have to suffer from the same issues that title had with its production, especially going by the positive responses from the beta.

In terms of professional reviews, I really can't seeing this game reviewing on anything lower than an 85% aggregate score though, barring the Halo 1 remake, critical reception dictates all of the main Halo games got pretty solid reviews.
 
No because people's expectations are too high and it'll never live up to them. This is coming from someone who liked halo 4 and didn't get what all the hate was about.

I love halo for what it is. I'm hyped for it. Hunt the truth radio drama series and the MCC has me frothing at the mouth to play this game and I know I won't be let down.
 
Wait, so there is no split-screen at all in Halo 5? As a University student living with 3 people who I all game with on my Xbox that's disappointing if true.
 
Halo 3 sold 2,000,000 first day in the US.

I have no doubt it will sell more than 2M day one. But I think a lot of those sales will be digital which aren't accounted for on NPD. MS will obviously release their own sales figures and will be more accurate because of that.
 
My expectations are already pretty low, especially after reading some story stuff. If the Arena multiplayer is fine then that will suffice for me.
 
No chance it will live up to the hype. The beta was good... I just wonder if it will be good enough to pull players from BO3 and Destiny. I'll check it out eventually but I have a feeling BO3 will be taking up most of my time also with Destiny.

I think Halo's time as a franchise has come to an end.
 
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Master Chief is really Bonnie Ross!

"Can Bonnie Ross build a video game cool enough to save the Xbox?" Nice Headline haha.

Can the Woman Behind Halo 5 Save the Xbox?

Dunno if we need another Halo Thread, so i'll leave this here.
 
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