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[gutter_trash]

So far it seems to be limited to stopping the mailboxes from going in any more. Where it leads from there is up in the air

what I get is that they will not revert what has already been installed but they are halting any further installments (urban areas)

Canada Post have been conducting donut strategies of working around suburbs first circling more urban areas than slowly trying to install them closer and closer to cities.

I welcome the halt because I don't think it would even work inside cities at all

 

[killer rin]

It wasn't something I considered when buying. I'm not saying nobody would think of it, but for us it was wildly far down on our list of considerations.

If anything, given the complaining, you would think prices would go up because then it would be like having home delivery

 

[maharg]

If anything, given the complaining, you would think prices would go up because then it would be like having home delivery

Seriously. I'm sorry, but there's no way having a delivery box in front of your house would drop its value by 20% as suggested by someone a while ago.

 

[gutter_trash]

Seriously. I'm sorry, but there's no way having a delivery box in front of your house would drop its value by 20% as suggested by someone a while ago.

would you buy a house that has it on your lawn? +junk mail tossed on your lawn

 

[maharg]

would you buy a house that has it on your lawn? +junk mail tossed on your lawn

I would, if I were interested in buying a house at all. I definitely wouldn't knock 1/5th of the house's value off for it.

 

[gutter_trash]

I knew you weren't a home owner

 

[Lothars]

would you buy a house that has it on your lawn? +junk mail tossed on your lawn

Yes I would but I would also make the a lower offer because of it.

I would, if I were interested in buying a house at all. I definitely wouldn't knock 1/5th of the house's value off for it.

I would give them a lower offer than if the mailbox wasn't there.

 

[Holmes]

Seriously. I'm sorry, but there's no way having a delivery box in front of your house would drop its value by 20% as suggested by someone a while ago.

The value of the home would definitely take a hit. Outside appearances are very important so when you have 1) a large community mailbox taking up space and being an eyesore, and 2) many people all over the neighbourhood coming to the mailbox at any moment and taking up space, your house suddenly looks less attractive.

 

[maharg]

I knew you weren't a home owner

I'm a condo owner.

 

[Stet]

I'm a condo owner.

Think of it as having a unit right next to the elevator. Convenient? Occasionally. Obnoxious? Most of the time.

 

[maharg]

Think of it as having a unit right next to the elevator. Convenient? Occasionally. Obnoxious? Most of the time.

Every unit in my building is next to the elevator and it's actually pretty convenient.

We all also have to go to the same spot to get our mail! :O

 

[anaron]

well I hate my neighbours so any chance to avoid them is taken - so yeah, I don't want to have to potentially interact with them just to get my fucking mail.

 

[Walpurgis]

Charge 79.99$ a year to get home delivery on Monday and Thursday. On those days, the postman go the community mailbox, take those people's mail and bring it to their home.

Free for people over 65 and the disabled.

You're a monster.

that explains why they are losing money, Purolator's service sucks. I wouldn't do business with them

I ordered a PC last month and it took ages to arrive. The day before it arrived, I saw a Purolator truck driving like a maniac through a crosswalk at school. I think he was trying to drift. I was so scared for my PC but it came fine. But yeah, Purolator is utter garbage. Their site can barely function. Shame on Canada Post.

 

[maharg]

well I hate my neighbours so any chance to avoid them is taken - so yeah, I don't want to have to potentially interact with them just to get my fucking mail.

Then perhaps an old neighbourhood where the houses are packed in so tight they have to expropriate someone's lawn to put in a community mailbox might not be an ideal place for you either.

But, more seriously, I at least appreciate the honesty of not wanting community mailboxes because it means you're losing a privilege of some sort. Justifying that fear of loss of privilege with concern trolling about property values? Meh. Especially when most people get perhaps one useful piece of mail a *month* at this point.

 

[killer rin]

would you buy a house that has it on your lawn? +junk mail tossed on your lawn

Seriously gutter, stop the hyperbole. The Mail slot doubles as a garbage slot. Hell, Canada Post even markets it as such. People dont end up with people throwing mail on the ground, if its junk it either goes back in the slot, or ends up in your fist where you throw it away at home.

 

[mdubs]

Charge 79.99$ a year to get home delivery on Monday and Thursday. On those days, the postman go the community mailbox, take those people's mail and bring it to their home.

Free for people over 65 and the disabled.

Stop it right now. You're hurting this debate with your sensible thinking

 

[Simon Belmont]

would you buy a house that has it on your lawn? +junk mail tossed on your lawn

If people treat their neighbourhood like that it's a shit neighbourhood. Nobody does that in my hood.

It can easily be established if putting a box in front of a house impacts the value, and if that's the case the easy solution would be to compensate the current owners.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Wow at the weather complaints. Where do you think the rest of the community boxes are? In Florida? lol. If the weather really was so awful, I doubt Canada Post would be delivering that day. Walking outside for all of 45 seconds will not kill you, no not even in -50C if you dress appropriately. Even in the worst case scenario, you can wait 6 hours for the weather to get better.

Community boxes are awesome. I love how they deliver the parcels (the only useful mail I get) into the boxes. Save your pity -- save it for those guys who have to drive 20 minutes to the post office and back if their package is delivered while they're not at home. Now those guys I feel sorry for lol.

 

[fallout]

I remember growing up in a neighbourhood with a community mailbox ...

... but only because I'm one of the lucky ones. Few survived.

First, the mail came. Then the junk mail. It didn't seem like much at first, but it quickly descended into rioting in the streets. Paper and blood were everywhere. This shouldn't have surprised us. We were warned, but we didn't heed the calls to action. "It's not so bad.", we said. "We don't really have to walk that far.", we said. How wrong we were. How foolish.

We stand to this day to tell our tale of woe. For we are: The Community Mailboxers.

 

[gutter_trash]

Wow at the weather complaints. Where do you think the rest of the community boxes are? In Florida? lol. If the weather really was so awful, I doubt Canada Post would be delivering that day. Walking outside for all of 45 seconds will not kill you, no not even in -50C if you dress appropriately. Even in the worst case scenario, you can wait 6 hours for the weather to get better.

Community boxes are awesome. I love how they deliver the parcels (the only useful mail I get) into the boxes. Save your pity -- save it for those guys who have to drive 20 minutes to the post office and back if their package is delivered while they're not at home. Now those guys I feel sorry for lol.

where will you put them for so many residents in such a heavily populated place?

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

where will you put them for so many residents in such a heavily populated place?

Are those duplexes, or is that the basement at those ground-level doors?

Because if it's a basement, then you can just plop it on those mini-lawns. If it's a duplex, well, not every neighbourhood should have a community box. 99% of them should though.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Put it exactly where that trash bag is. Problem solved.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Put it exactly where that trash bag is. Problem solved.

This is why I shouldn't be a city planner.

Also, what's that green block behind the bicycle? Because if it's a garbage bin, you can replace it with a community mailbox.

 

[gutter_trash]

This is why I shouldn't be a city planner.

Also, what's that green block behind the bicycle? Because if it's a garbage bin, you can replace it with a community mailbox.

you guys are using box in singular but in such a highly populated area, boxes would be set at every 20 feet so possible 6 boxes + per street

 

[Simon Belmont]

you guys are using box in singular but in such a highly populated area, boxes would be set at every 20 feet so possible 6 boxes + per street

20 feet?!?! You'd need two boxes per residence?

 

[gutter_trash]

20 feet?!?! You'd need two boxes per residence?

did you look at that city street? those are not singular houses, those are triplexes

 

[Simon Belmont]

did you look at that city street? those are not singular houses, those are triplexes

And a community box can have mail for like 60 residences. So no, they're not going to need to be spaced out every 20 feet.

Edit: Assuming they're triplexes, and I think I'm being generous to you when I say they're maybe 30 feet wide, assuming there are no streets in between that's about 900 feet per box if my math checks out.

Further edit: Looked again, impossible to tell how wide those units are at that perspective. 30 feet may be too much, but I think you get my point.

 

[Sean C]

I see Gary Doer will be leaving as ambassador to the US shortly (granted, given the length of his tenure, he might have been doing that anyway). The last three ambassadors seem to have set the standard that this office goes to a party elder statesman of some stature (prior to that, it's mostly career diplomats). The obvious choice, and the locus of most speculation, is of course Bob Rae (though they're also talking about him to follow in his dad's footsteps and serve as UN Ambassador). I was trying to think of other possible candidates; Anne McLellan came to mind, if she was interested (I obviously have no idea).

 

[Simon Belmont]

Conrad Black

 

[gutter_trash]

I see Gary Doer will be leaving as ambassador to the US shortly (granted, given the length of his tenure, he might have been doing that anyway). The last three ambassadors seem to have set the standard that this office goes to a party elder statesman of some stature (prior to that, it's mostly career diplomats). The obvious choice, and the locus of most speculation, is of course Bob Rae (though they're also talking about him to follow in his dad's footsteps and serve as UN Ambassador). I was trying to think of other possible candidates; Anne McLellan came to mind, if she was interested (I obviously have no idea).

No foubt about it after his big laugh on Election Night on CBC when Peter asked him the question

 

[Fuzzy]

Wow at the weather complaints. Where do you think the rest of the community boxes are? In Florida? lol. If the weather really was so awful, I doubt Canada Post would be delivering that day. Walking outside for all of 45 seconds will not kill you, no not even in -50C if you dress appropriately. Even in the worst case scenario, you can wait 6 hours for the weather to get better.

Community boxes are awesome. I love how they deliver the parcels (the only useful mail I get) into the boxes. Save your pity -- save it for those guys who have to drive 20 minutes to the post office and back if their package is delivered while they're not at home. Now those guys I feel sorry for lol.

I do feel sorry for those people, it's a good thing my mailman leaves my packages inside my storm door.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

I do feel sorry for those people, it's a good thing my mailman leaves my packages inside my storm door.

The space between your door and your storm door? Is that really big enough to fit in the larger packages?

 

[maharg]

did you look at that city street? those are not singular houses, those are triplexes

They'd have to be TARDIS' to justify one every 20ft. Wtf are you on.

Somehow my apartment building suffices with one set of mailboxes, I think your threeplexes might be able to space them out a little more.

 

[Fuzzy]

The space between your door and your storm door? Is that really big enough to fit in the larger packages?

He only leaves ones that fit with the storm door closed, he puts bigger boxes just inside my gate leading to my backyard. My mailman is awesome.

 

[Divvy]

Apparently appearing with the Fords drove away potential voters

Who could have possibly forseen this, completely unpredictable reaction?

 

[firehawk12]

Apparently appearing with the Fords drove away potential voters

Who could have possibly forseen this, completely unpredictable reaction?

They were desperate to save Ontario and assumed the Fords still have capital.

Heck, I'm surprised Mulcair didn't make a stop at Layton's statue on Center Island to try to not-so-subtly remind people of why they voted NDP the first time around.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

They were desperate to save Ontario and assumed the Fords still have capital.

Heck, I'm surprised Mulcair didn't make a stop at Layton's statue on Center Island to try to not-so-subtly remind people of why they voted NDP the first time around.

Didn't work for Chow. Though to be fair to Chow, the Liberals beat the NDP in Toronto even in 2011.

 

[MMarston]

Apparently appearing with the Fords drove away potential voters

Who could have possibly forseen this, completely unpredictable reaction?

It's like agreeing to appear with Hitler solely because of how funny and popular those Hitler meme-vids are

 

[firehawk12]

Didn't work for Chow. Though to be fair to Chow, the Liberals beat the NDP in Toronto even in 2011.

Yeah, I was thinking of trying to save the NDP nationally. But I guess it was like the dinosaurs watching the giant rock in the sky about to wipe them all out - there was nothing they could do to avoid extinction.

 

[Confusion Illusion]

Apparently appearing with the Fords drove away potential voters

Who could have possibly forseen this, completely unpredictable reaction?

Shocking! Really though, the Ford brothers ain't no Hazel McCallion.

 

[Bigfoot]

Was this posted yet? https://www.trudeaumetre.ca

This should be standard for all PMs from now on. Of course I don't expect him to keep all his promises but over half would be nice.

 

[gutter_trash]

Didn't work for Chow. Though to be fair to Chow, the Liberals beat the NDP in Toronto even in 2011.

tell that to Iggy in Etobicoke Lakeshaore

 

[gabbo]

Apparently appearing with the Fords drove away potential voters

Who could have possibly forseen this, completely unpredictable reaction?

Harper was trying to poison the well on his way out. Only explanation I can see.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

tell that to Iggy in Etobicoke Lakeshaore

I meant in terms of popular vote.


http://www.blogto.com/city/2011/05/federal_election_2011_results/

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

where will you put them for so many residents in such a heavily populated place?

:lol @ "such a heavily populated area". It's practically Kowloon.

I supported the liberals, but this is a case of special people not wanting to lose their special status.

And honestly, if you're so old and frail that you can't survive a walk to the mailbox then you really shouldn't be living on your own anymore.

 

[gutter_trash]

:lol @ "such a heavily populated area". It's practically Kowloon.

I supported the liberals, but this is a case of special people not wanting to lose their special status.

And honestly, if you're so old and frail that you can't survive a walk to the mailbox then you really shouldn't be living on your own anymore.

there are no places to put them

damn you suburbanites can be so daft

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

there are no places to put them

damn you suburbanites can be so daft

posts picture of suburb

complains of subarbanites

there's plenty of space. hence the :lol. its like you're not even looking at the photo.

 

[Rocky85]

If there really is no place to put them then it looks like you'll be getting your very own PO box at the gas station. You cant expect other taxpayers to pay for your privilege.

 

[maharg]

posts picture of suburb

complains of subarbanites

there's plenty of space. hence the :lol. its like you're not even looking at the photo.

I like how he looks down on me for living in an apartment and on unspecified suburbanites for ... living in houses or something? gutter_trash has respect only for those living in TARDIS threeplexes.

 

[gutter_trash]

posts picture of suburb

complains of subarbanites

there's plenty of space. hence the :lol. its like you're not even looking at the photo.

that picture is in the middle of the city