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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015
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Damn. Obviously if it was a personal thing it's gone but if it was something from Amazon, she can get another one, right? And she can have her packages sent to a post office in 7/11 or wherever, right?
CBC comments approve. Looks like we're go for launch.
firehawk12
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I bet 22 Minutes or some other silly comedy show could do a series of streeters asking people what was the address of the Prime Minister's residence and no one would be able to answer. lol
OpinionatedCyborg
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It would be worth saving even if it wasn't the Prime Minister's residence for the past 65 years as it's a 150-year-old architecturally significant building. Your attitude is common among Canadians, which is why we've torn down nearly everything older than 50 and replaced them with shit.
Same could be said of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
firehawk12
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I dunno, in Toronto everything old is being replaced by condos, so it just seems like there has to be some kind of artificial age that makes something significant enough to be worth saving.
I feel like this is Canada in general. We always feel like were in the shadow of the UK or America or whatever, so we don't even try, always taking the "easy" way out. Even our notoriety as Pecekeepers is non-existent. I think Rick Mercer said it best in that rant right before the election night, we don't seem to do a lot of "nation building" anymore.
firehawk12
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Maybe, but at least it has a cool name!
(It was even the title of a failed sitcom!)
I mean, even with 10 Downing, you have press conferences outside of it and the press stalk it during significant events to see if ministers or opposition leaders or whatever will walk up to the house to visit the PM so "10 Downing" is always on the news or talk shows. As far as I know, there isn't that same tradition with 24 Sussex.
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So what's going to happen with those anti-terror laws?
Bad for jobs. Bad for cities. Bad for property values. There's no reason they should exist.
MyAbsolution
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Growing up in small town Western Canada I had these mailing boxes my entire life :-/ When I moved to Ontario I had my mail delivered to me at my door box which was awesome.
I honestly don't mind going back to the box (which happened a month ago) but I had no idea this wasn't all that common?
I honestly don't mind going back to the box (which happened a month ago) but I had no idea this wasn't all that common?
Wasn't Brian considered "too liberal" for the PC's? If he was even too liberal for the PCs who were more moderate than the CPC, and if Ben is anything like his father, he would be like a communist in the CPC.
firehawk12
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On the one hand, NAFTA, on the other hand GST, so...
Same. I imagine these easterners also get their milk delivered every morning.. (in bags of course)
Nothing? I thought trudeau was for them?
I'm in South Korea right now, I can confirm that there's about as much Trudeamania here as there was Harpermania (ie. none), I have seen Obama socks here though
What's wrong is it's a huge pain in the ass. It's all well and good to walk over in the summer when the weather is nice but who wants to walk that far in the winter when it's freezing cold out? Or how about when it's pouring rain outside? Like I want to get wet let alone risk my mail getting damaged by the water on the return trip.
The worst part is even with them canceling making more of these stupid things as one of the first towns they build them in I'm stuck with it :/
Trust me, it's not that big of a deal, even in crappy weather. And I'm talking from 16 years of experience.
Over here the community boxes are never in front of someones house(like those awful transformers boxes). Hows it bad for jobs though? or are you saying we need to put more money into the post office?
Oh no not the weather.
For people that dont have community boxes. Does that mean you get all the awful store flyers and spam delivered by 12 year olds mixed in with your bills?
I'm in South Korea right now, I can confirm that there's about as much Trudeamania here as there was Harpermania (ie. none), I have seen Obama socks here though
Well that's what my friend said. I guess it's just anecdotal right now haha. But yeah really nothing. Lol
Anyway I'm just basing this off what netizens are saying right now from what I can find.
On a serious note though, I've never ever seen anything Canadian government get the front page of any publication.
gutter_trash
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you guys are missing the point, highly densely populated urban areas cannot support community mailboxes
Harper wanted to shove it inside cities where it is impossible to accommodate a higher volume of community mailboxes where there virtually no terrain to install them on
you guys out there in suburbs accepted it? okay, do you accept that your 50 year old home gets a piece of its lawn expropriated by the Crown and have your property devalue with a community mailbox on your own lawn? Because that is what it too with the installation on new community mailboxes in tight spaced neighborhood with no free public space to install the boxes
we pay taxes for a reason and that is to receive services.
you guys have accepted Harper's slow slow slow brainwashing of accepting those awful community mailboxes
Harper wanted to shove it inside cities where it is impossible to accommodate a higher volume of community mailboxes where there virtually no terrain to install them on
you guys out there in suburbs accepted it? okay, do you accept that your 50 year old home gets a piece of its lawn expropriated by the Crown and have your property devalue with a community mailbox on your own lawn? Because that is what it too with the installation on new community mailboxes in tight spaced neighborhood with no free public space to install the boxes
we pay taxes for a reason and that is to receive services.
you guys have accepted Harper's slow slow slow brainwashing of accepting those awful community mailboxes
We're talking about mailboxes. Mail. Boxes. Can we drop the hyperbole?
gutter_trash
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on your lawn? epxopriated?
Has this actually happened though? I think every community mailbox I've seen has been on public space. I'd like to read about it if that's not true.
gutter_trash
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many of the existing ones were conceived in new neighborhoods where houses are less than 20 years old in expanding suburbs that are less than 20 years old. Those neighborhoods were conceived to adapt to those boxes.
but old neighorhoods were not.
so Canada Post is expropriating lawns of home owners in neighboorhoods that have virtually not much public space to accomadate the boxes
so Canada Post plants those boxes on a poor soul's lawn WITHOUT consent.
It hasn't happened yet because they haven't hit the densely packed houses (not buildings because they already have them in lobbies) in city cores. There's a reason they were saving places like DT Toronto for last.
Man that Allen Iverson interview may be the greatest of all time.
I was mostly thinking about houses that only have a 10x6 foot front lawn with no driveway and only a narrow sidewalk.
That does suck. It's unfortunate there aren't any good options in some cases and they shouldn't be expropriating people's property. But I still think door to door delivery is pretty pointless in 2015.
So there's people complaining mailboxes are too far away from home, and other people complaining mailboxes are too close to home. Lol.
Maybe I should refocus what I'm trying to get at. I care about the funding cuts to Canada Post and I'm sympathetic to the problems that community mailboxes can cause in some situations, but I hate how you're translating: "I don't see the big deal." as "Harper has brainwashed you." It makes it impossible to have any reasonable level of discourse on the matter.
The community mailbox issue wouldn't have affected me as I live in a building, but it would have affected my 70-year-old mother who I don't want having to walk god knows where in the snow to get her mail.
And yes, "the elderly" should be exempted from the removal of door-to-door delivery, but how on earth would Canada Post have figured out that nightmare logistically?
And yes, "the elderly" should be exempted from the removal of door-to-door delivery, but how on earth would Canada Post have figured out that nightmare logistically?
umop_3pisdn
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How far off is it until our mail is delivered by robots, anyways? Isn't amazon already looking at that for package deliveries?
gutter_trash
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without your consent on your property?
good luck ever selling that house
to save Canada Post, they must evolve and compete more aggressively against FedEx, Puralator and UPS. There is tons of money to be made there and that is where they can make it.
Simon Belmont
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I just moved into a neighborhood that already had community boxes. It's so, so much better than home delivery.
You can't really exempt anyone from this though, or else it'll spiral into some messy class system where some people get home delivery and some don't. And those who don't will be be very loud about it.
Simon Belmont
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That's already the way it is though. There are tonnes of places that have had community boxes since way before this whole fiasco started.
But people moved into those places knowing that they had community boxes. It was part of their neighbourhood.
Hyperbole, ho!
A community mailbox could decrease your property's value, but it's not going to affect your ability to sell the property. Those are two different things. For example, you could renovate a house in to a cutting-edge multi-million-dollar mansion and raise the property's value, but if it's in a shitty neighbourhood that rich people don't want to live in, it will actually be harder to sell. A property with a community mailbox is still going to sell, perhaps to someone worried about getting their mail in the rain or snow
Canada Post owns Purolator.
gutter_trash
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that explains why they are losing money, Purolator's service sucks. I wouldn't do business with them
Yeah I never understood this whole community box fiasco since I've always had one.
I had no idea - and yet Purolator is soooooo much worse than Canada Post.
In any case, I actually like the community mailboxes way more than home delivery.
Are they going to be switch EVERYBODY back to home delivery or just stop installing community boxes in places that don't have them yet?
So far it seems to be limited to stopping the mailboxes from going in any more. Where it leads from there is up in the air
Simon Belmont
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It wasn't something I considered when buying. I'm not saying nobody would think of it, but for us it was wildly far down on our list of considerations.
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