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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015
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I would laugh so hard if it turns out the Fords drove away just enough swing voters to give the Liberals the majority.
where will you put them for so many residents in such a heavily populated place?
Where that garbage bag is just hanging out all chilling.
PumpkinSpice
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where will you put them for so many residents in such a heavily populated place?
rm one parking spot
Perfect Blue
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Your argument is just as asinine as his is. It reads like you're simply jealous you don't have door-to-door delivery so now that means others can't either.
gutter_trash
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that is the street. It is illegal to block the path of the side of the street when the snow clearing signs are placed the day before
The Globe and Mail has good opinion piece on Canada Post.
It should be taken a step further and mail should only be delivered 2-3 times a week.
It should be taken a step further and mail should only be delivered 2-3 times a week.
Simon Belmont
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You still haven't said why it can't go exactly where that trash bag is.
gutter_trash
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how are you supposed to open the passenger side door of the car?
Looks like public opposition to the Oil sands is actually working
http://www.nationalobserver.com/2015/10/27/news/how-public-opposition-strangled-albertas-oil-sands-projects-report
http://www.nationalobserver.com/2015/10/27/news/how-public-opposition-strangled-albertas-oil-sands-projects-report
Simon Belmont
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Serious question: How big do you think these things are?
gutter_trash
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how big do you think our sidewalks are?
Simon Belmont
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Answering questions with questions, are we?
You could open a door beside the trees, so you'd be able to open a door beside the box. There would be more space between the door and the box than you would bet at the average parking lot.
gutter_trash
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most streets have even small sidewalks than those
Simon Belmont
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Then why not use a picture of those streets?
That's exactly what you just did. :lol
Simon Belmont
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I did say 'questions', and 'we'.
AuthenticM
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thank you for sharing
Zombie James
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Yeah, I'm sure businesses would love that.
I don't get this obsession with cuts, I really don't. Especially when Canada Post was looking heavily into offering banking services which other banks around the world offer to huge success:
But no, let's offer less services, make life more difficult for seniors and inconvenient for everyone else, and throw thousands of people out of work instead. This is the kind of short-sighted mentally that benefits no one but the suits at the top and, in this case, the brain-dead Conservative government that appointed them.
Businesses should use services like Fedex.
Home delivery should be 2-3 times a week.
Honestly, I get mad when companies mail me. I want everything but confidential documents like my tax return delivered via email.
EDIT - What would be interesting would be a government-sponsored email program where every citizen gets an email address that only receives emails from approved sources (banks, utilities, telecoms, government, etc). It could be something like <id_number>@mail.gc.ca. So you get a non-spam email address for things like bills, government notices, etc available to you on birth and doesn't change no matter where you move to, what ISP you use, etc.
Then when you sign up for a utility, telecom, etc. You can specify your id_number to have your bills delivered that way.
Get rid of most of the reason for generic mail.
Home delivery should be 2-3 times a week.
Honestly, I get mad when companies mail me. I want everything but confidential documents like my tax return delivered via email.
EDIT - What would be interesting would be a government-sponsored email program where every citizen gets an email address that only receives emails from approved sources (banks, utilities, telecoms, government, etc). It could be something like <id_number>@mail.gc.ca. So you get a non-spam email address for things like bills, government notices, etc available to you on birth and doesn't change no matter where you move to, what ISP you use, etc.
Then when you sign up for a utility, telecom, etc. You can specify your id_number to have your bills delivered that way.
Get rid of most of the reason for generic mail.
A lot of things should have been bigger election issues, like Senate abolition, or Bill C-51, or EI, or the economy's reliance on oil, or the environment and how oil companies and pipelines are hurting it.
But this is Canada.
djplaeskool
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Politifact does this for US presidents. It's been really interesting to follow over the years.
Speaking of which, I didn't hear much hand-wringing about health care this election. I remember that being like, THE issue for a bunch of previous elections.
gutter_trash
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the hurdle with health care is that every province has their thing.
the best the Federal can do is to boost up federal contributions to provinces in health
Considering we have the health care system we have because the federal government basically twisted the province's arms to make it happen, that's such a load of horse shit. The federal government can tie health care funding to outcomes, and has many times in the past and probably will many times in the future.
Dual Blade
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Can someone explain to me the basis of the argument "you will lose $1000 off your pay check if you don't vote Harper!" I hear from most people and coworkers around the election?
I figured it was either ppl just listening to Harpers ridiculous commercials, maybe some common amount certain families lose due to the income splitting issue, or maybe what the dollar amount was if Liberals raise tax on the 1%.
I figured it was either ppl just listening to Harpers ridiculous commercials, maybe some common amount certain families lose due to the income splitting issue, or maybe what the dollar amount was if Liberals raise tax on the 1%.
PumpkinSpice
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Are all your coworkers pulling seven figure salaries?
I think the federal government can still do things to help the situation, like offer students incentives to pursue medicine (like partially or fully paying their tuition) or offering tax credits to hospitals for keeping their equipment up-to-date or opening more clinics/extending existing clinics' hours.
Funny thing about healthcare as an election issue: while Canadians tend to list it as one of the areas that they want leaders to prioritize, when it actually comes time to vote, Canadians don't really factor in healthcare into their decision.
It seems that the parties' respective pollster have come to this realization in this election, which is why we didn't really see it talked about much this time around.
gutter_trash
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issues heavily entagled in Provincial jurisdictions have been avoided by both the LPC and the CPC in this campaign
Mulcair being a Provincial guy ran a provincial style campaign as if he was runner for Premier of a Province while Canadians really wanted a Prime Minister.
Mulcair came out as the loser
Mulcair being a Provincial guy ran a provincial style campaign as if he was runner for Premier of a Province while Canadians really wanted a Prime Minister.
Mulcair came out as the loser
The election is over, you can stop campaigning for your boy.
Latest poll on Québec sovereignty:
No: 64%
Yes: 36%
http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/453715/le-projet-de-pays-du-quebec-rebute
No: 64%
Yes: 36%
http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/453715/le-projet-de-pays-du-quebec-rebute
done before the election so the no is probably higher now that Harper is gone
Dual Blade
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Clearly no. Mostly 5s. So it's the 1% tax raise?
More like the Liberals won't enact the exact tax cuts that the Conservatives were proposing.
gutter_trash
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the most important take away from this poll is that support for separatism is at its lowest among Young People (millennials) while baby boomers are still clinging onto the 1970s.
young people today are more ''wordly'' and curious about what happens outside the confines of imaginary borders.
You Are Viewtiful
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Why not both?
I don't like the "jobs" argument. These people's jobs have been made redundant by new technology (community mailboxes). Keeping them around is like hiring people to smash windows and then repair them, all just to say that you are "creating jobs". If we're going to have government jobs, they should be jobs that provide value to society, not jobs for the sake of jobs.
Following the line of thought on why we shouldn't keep things for the sake of keeping them, if we could save billions of dollars by removing home-delivery and reducing delivery days to two to three days, then why shouldn't we? It's like keeping a Netflix account around that you don't use and paying $12 a month for it anyway. You just wouldn't do that. You would cancel your subscription and use your money for better things -- and it's the same for government. We shouldn't be spending money on what are essentially luxuries (for only certain people), when we can use that money for things that matter e.g. health care, aboriginal education.
Seriously, what else is there to talk about lol.
Come October 19th, 2015, Trudeau will be Prime Minister. Book it.
gutter_trash
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I will say this about services:
we pay taxes for services,
it is a social pact that we made. Pay Taxes, Receive Services. Not Pay Taxes, and see Services Reduced
we pay taxes for services,
it is a social pact that we made. Pay Taxes, Receive Services. Not Pay Taxes, and see Services Reduced
CitizenVectron
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Why is the trudeaumetre spelt wrong? It should be trudeaumeter. Metre is the correct way of spelling the unit of measurement, but meter is the correct way of spelling a device that measures. Speedometer, odometer, etc.
Oh well.
Oh well.
It's in French.
Another proof the hate for Harper is sometimes completely irrational. Support for separatism has been low during the whole decade when Harper was in office. The Bloc Quebecois is a walking corpse. The PQ is in disarray. Correlation isn't causation, but Harper did everything right on the national unity front.
What the hell? The BQ didn't lose to the CPC, they lost to the NDP. The whole reason they're a walking corpse is because people wanted Harper out in 2011.
gutter_trash
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support for separatist rises when Nationalists are angry at Ottawa or angry at failures from Ottawa when it comes to Constitutional reform.
if Paul Martin would have been re-elected while the Sponsorship Scandal was roaring, then the support for the YES would have shot up sky high
the Liberals were punished when Harper won his first minority and that calmed things down.
Harper took a laissez-faire approach and ignored head to head confrontations and support for separatism dwindled.
+ millennials don't care
Pierre Trudeau and Jean Chrétien were very confrontational and that drove nationalists over the fences. (IMO Trudeau and Chrétien were right though, equality for all with NO Special Powers)
Harper decided to not listen, not talk, but just ignore without confrontations and shit settled down. + the Liberals were punished by losing power.
The Bloc was fueled on the sponsorship scandal. That fanned out when there were no Liberals in sight to rage against.
Meech Lake Accord failing then Charlettown Accord failure is what propped up the rise of support prior 1995.
Today, nobody wants to talk about Constitution crap because of duh
if Paul Martin would have been re-elected while the Sponsorship Scandal was roaring, then the support for the YES would have shot up sky high
the Liberals were punished when Harper won his first minority and that calmed things down.
Harper took a laissez-faire approach and ignored head to head confrontations and support for separatism dwindled.
+ millennials don't care
a shiny poney to calm them down for a week but everyone knew it was symbolic and meant nothing.
Pierre Trudeau and Jean Chrétien were very confrontational and that drove nationalists over the fences. (IMO Trudeau and Chrétien were right though, equality for all with NO Special Powers)
Harper decided to not listen, not talk, but just ignore without confrontations and shit settled down. + the Liberals were punished by losing power.
The Bloc was fueled on the sponsorship scandal. That fanned out when there were no Liberals in sight to rage against.
Meech Lake Accord failing then Charlettown Accord failure is what propped up the rise of support prior 1995.
Today, nobody wants to talk about Constitution crap because of duh
Doesn't Canada Post already have an electronic mail service like this?
gutter_trash
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temporarily just like how Mulroney filled his Quebec team full of nationalists.... until the day they turn against you (Lucien Bouchard from PC to Bloc)
you cannot trust nationalists politically, The knives are always ready aimed at the back.
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