D23 Expo Japan -- Kingdom Hearts Premium Theater

Haha what a joke. Square Enix is garbage.
Well, time for KH3 to join FFXV on my "games I don't give a shit about anymore" list

Didn't know your investment in this 2017 (probably) game was hinging on getting a new trailer right now. I'm pretty damn disappointed that they're not making the extended trailer public, but this seems a little extreme.
 
I'm pretty much just missing BBS and 3D before catching up. And the only reason I'm not playing BBS right now is because the school semester started up again and it's taking up too much of my time to be able to sit down and focus on the game. But I played every game from KH 1 to KH 2 on the HD Remixes. (I even bought 358/2 Days, played it and then watched the cutscenes)

I want to make sure I'm totally prepped for this when it comes out! I loved the games growing up, but played some of them out of order or without remembering too much details, this has helped a lot and it's seriously been tons of fun.

The irony is that 3D, BBS, and [chi] are a degree of magnitude more important than any of the other games in the series.
 
The irony is that 3D, BBS, and [chi] are a degree of magnitude more important than any of the other games in the series.

Is there a game in the series that*isn't* vital to the overall storyline?

I'd say RE:Coded is the most irrelevant, but even its initial concept and last 15-30 minutes are "required reading."
 
The irony is that 3D, BBS, and [chi] are a degree of magnitude more important than any of the other games in the series.

Haha, I've certainly noticed that from what people talk about. Which is all the more reason to be sure that I can focus on them without having class work interrupting or distracting me.
 
Is there a game in the series that*isn't* vital to the overall storyline?

I'd say RE:Coded is the most irrelevant, but even its initial concept and last 15-30 minutes are "required reading."
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Haha what a joke. Square Enix is garbage.
Well, time for KH3 to join FFXV on my "games I don't give a shit about anymore" list

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Its honestly starting to piss me off with how much disney is intervening with this game.

Yes this is all disney. Let's all forget that SE got on a stage to announce a PC port of Final Fantasy VII.
 
...and other posts saying the same thing.

What makes you think I skipped games in the series? I have literally never heard of a Goat Key but lo and behold, somehow that's canon.

Now I'm googling it. http://www.khwiki.com/Young_Xehanort's_Keyblade

Yeah if this is somehow relevant to the overarching plot, I dunno what to tell you.

I excused the "CHI" blade only because it was so bad it was good, but goats?!
The name Goat Key is just a reference to the goat motif of the desing of the keyblade. It is used by the ultimate villain of the franchise (so far). Its importance is in that Master Xehanort uses it. No need to get your panties in a bunch because of it.


The story is thus - If you steal someone's heart they're heartless, but sometimes with the power of love, you can bring them back, but maybe only if they suicide, but watch out for their Nobody, unless you put them to sleep, then you have to watch out for Dream Eaters, which you might confuse with the Unversed...
If someone loses themselves to darkness, they become a Heartless and leave behind an "empty" shell that is called a Nobody. That someone with strong feelings & ties to a person can pull them back from that darkness is fairly simple and, frankly, cliche story element that is used in stories other than just Kingdom Hearts. Most recently, Ant-Man used a fairly similar plot device.

That a dream realm has enemies called Dream Eaters isn't horriby confusing, is it?

YES THIS IS ALL VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I'VE GOT IT MEMORIZED.
Never said that ALL of KH is super straightforward, just that it was silly to start crying about simple concepts like a "group of good vs a group of evil" or a keyblade with a goat motif that the villain uses being incomprehensible. There are some silly things in KH and the quality of writing is quite low, but overall the storyline isn't all that incomprehensible or complex, considering there's over a decade worth of story. Of course if you try to condense the story into two sentences, you can make anything that has dozens of hours worth of story sound incomprehensible.

Basically there's like 3-4 versions of every character, 3-4 different factions of enemies that have to do with ephemeral concepts of darkness and light and love and dreams and hope and hearts and emptiness, but rarely ever at the same time.
I don't see how the concept of a Heartless (kind of like a soul consumed by darkness that turns that soul into a creature that starts yearning for other souls/hearts) or Nobodies (the body left behind without a soul/heart) are all that incomprehensible concepts. They aren't usually wholly different "versions" of the characters. Most of the Org XIII members are the same as their "complete" human forms, except they do (even more) evil stuff as part of Xemnas' ploy because they think they can turn back into complete humans that way (though some of the members have plans of their own). Roxas & Namine are pretty much the only exceptions for that and there are fairly easily explained reasons for that.

Can anyone explain what happens when you 'obtain' Kingdom Hearts? That's what the chi-blade is for, right? What happens? Has it happened before?
Kingdom Hearts just kind of seems like the Ultimate Power in the universe. If one can "obtain" or harness its power, one probably becomes a god-like entity who has very little limits in what he/she can do. Again, a fairly generic concept in a lot of fantasy fiction where you need to stop the villain from attaining such ultimate power that would make then unstoppable & throw the world/universe into chaos & destruction.
 
That seemingly asinine document actually somewhat helped.

It also proves how convoluted the story is. Literally hearts inside of hearts.

And yes I've played every game, it's just that I've played them over the course of thirteen (!!!) years across like six systems.

Also KHX is a Japan-only browser/iOS game, so I can't reasonably be expected to already know the weapons the "faction leaders" in that apparently use.
I don't remember people having this much issues with Sora "housing" Kairi's heart back in the KH1 days. Hearts are basically the souls of the KH universe, not things that pump blood to the rest of the body, and it's not like KH is the first piece of fiction ever to use such a concept, though it does have a bit more focus on it & plays around with the concepts more than a lot of other stories. It was made a bit more complex by the existence of Namine and Ven's heart being inside Sora as well, but she's a very special case in all of KH and even she can be fairly easily explained with only a little bit of bending the rules of how Heartless & Nobodies form
 
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Yes this is all disney. Let's all forget that SE got on a stage to announce a PC port of Final Fantasy VII.

I dunno, kh3 has made 1 proper appearance at a gaming event so far while its been at 4 d23's. showing something new every time.

way too much focus is being put on attraction flow which is basically disneyland advertisement at this point.
Its being pushed as a disney entity for more than any others before it.
 

If only they could've just kept the same complete style and just upgraded it, now the characters look alittle more real as people when they really shouldn't. Even mickey is some weird smoothed old cartoon that looks like it had no detail put into it.

I mean you can notice the obvious cartooniness of the models before but now its alittle to smoothed out and weird.
 
Just comparing the two, holy shit, there's an actual lighting system in place on the 0.2 shot as opposed to just static nothing like the original PS2 engine graphics always have had.

I think it looks pretty good personally as an upgrade. Bad shots be damned, the models look solid IMO
 
If only they could've just kept the same complete style and just upgraded it, now the characters look alittle more real as people when they really shouldn't. Even mickey is some weird smoothed old cartoon that looks like it had no detail put into it.

I mean you can notice the obvious cartooniness of the models before but now its alittle to smoothed out and weird.

This is what I was getting at before.
 
Just comparing the two, holy shit, there's an actual lighting system in place on the 0.2 shot as opposed to just static nothing like the original PS2 engine graphics always have had.

I think the problem is that the lighting isn't very good. The shots that are more affected by lighting don't look as good in most of the KH3 stuff so far.
 
I think the problem is that the lighting isn't very good. The shots that are more affected by lighting don't look as good in most of the KH3 stuff so far.

Eh, bad shots will sometimes happen with lighting that changes depending on the scene.

I would not worry about it personally speaking, we'll see more of the game soon enough, and people will have time to get used to the visuals
 
The OP says there's still 1 hour & 14 minutes until the trailer was said to be made public. Keep your pitchforks & torches at bay for another ~74 minutes...
 
Ah, I missed the part where they said there was apparently no actual source and someone seemingly pulled the time out from their ass. Oh wellz, I reckon we still get it at some point this week.

I could see them waiting until PSX in December to show it off. I'd prefer we get it within a week or so, but I'll take what I can get.
 
So where will I be able to watch this trailer when it goes live?

Square doesn't upload KH videos on their channel, so I'm guessing on the Disney Games channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/DisneyVideoGames/videos), or try the KH channel too (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCyrXyelKeXFx5KDgldMmNw/videos).

But it probably will not go live in 20 minutes lol. That was miscommunication from the people reporting it.

Still, it's 20 minutes, might as well check it.
 
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