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[Horseress]

Based Infiltration playing some Laura

 

[ShaperofStories]

Wait. People don't like Laura?? More for me, then.

 

[Alchemist]

Also I really hope someone rips the favela music because holy shit this is so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMdZ2KGv_BI

 

[kirblar]

I actually think laura is a ton of fun to use. Surprised a lot of people are lukewarm on her. Eh, whatevs.

Was really hoping Vega was in this test, I wanted to mess with him more. Probably just gonna experiment with Laura in the meantime.

She's very very Abel-esque, and it's not like he had the biggest fanclub.

 

[K.Sabot]

Also playing on DS4 is a nightmare.

I don't know if I'm holding down back or just down half of the time.

 

[Lulubop]

She's very very Abel-esque, and it's not like he had the biggest fanclub.

Being like Abel is not why people aren't feeling her

 

[Gren]

Also I really hope someone rips the favela music because holy shit this is so good

Is this it?

https://youtu.be/zMfeSmNFo3w

I really like the original tracks in this, far more than the arranged classic themes.

EDIT: Too slow.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Based Infiltration playing some Laura

He's saying she's awful lolol

"Laura too bad"

 

[Qvoth]

yaaaaaaay infil is back

 

[Phatmac]

I keep getting matches up with brutal players. Holy cow.

 

[Lulubop]

He's saying she's awful lolol

"Laura too bad"

He went back to Rashid haha

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

As somebody who played Abel throughout SF4s duration I really don't want to play an even shittier version of Abel.

 

[cackhyena]

She looked like the first grappler after Alex I'd actually be into. Shame.

 

[Piccoro]

This game is too beautiful...

 

[Stone Ocean]

He went back to Rashid haha

The range on her normals is hella bad from what he showed.

 

[Rice-Eater]

He really doesn't.

He's pretty bad right now compared to the first beta. He's been heavily nerfed since then. But that seems to be all I hear about every character. It looks like that's the direction Capcom is going in. If it's considered good or cheap then nerf it or remove it.

It's just not that fun to play. If they want to take away combos then make these buttons, throws, and short combos hurt. But even those are pretty weak now. So we're just poking each other with pillows now?

I know I know, it's not done yet. But man I'm really afraid this is how Capcom will start the game with.

 

[ShaperofStories]

Wait, someone who's played Laura for an hour and a half says she's terrible? Guess she's officially unplayable, guys.

 

[Lulubop]

Wait, someone who's played Laura for an hour and a half says she's terrible? Guess she's officially unplayable, guys.

Oh, ok..

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Just hopped on, wtf is this random gouken/ken/ryu cutscene lol. Oh it's a tutorial. lmao at the character models.

 

[Remapped88]

Her V-Skill isn't so great, haven't found much used for it and I think it should've been a special move instead.

 

[bob_arctor]

That sucks. I only had an hour window to play and now it'll be spent downloading it.

Yup, I feel your pain. Staring at the download screen while the rest of the family stares at me, wanting to watch tv. Sigh.

 

[robo_qwop]

What is this announcer saying behind the match start music?

 

[direct_quote]

He's pretty bad right now compared to the first beta. He's been heavily nerfed since then. But that seems to be all I hear about every character. It looks like that's the direction Capcom is going in. If it's considered good or cheap then nerf it or remove it.

It's just not that fun to play. If they want to take away combos then make these buttons, throws, and short combos hurt. But even those are pretty weak now. So we're just poking each other with pillows now?

I know I know, it's not done yet. But man I'm really afraid this is how Capcom will start the game with.

Feeling I'm getting as well. Everything feels stubby and they keep removing combo options... If you don't like the damage then reduce the combo damage or increase scaling... don't remove combos.. Heck was just playing 3S online and despite lack of combo options, normals don't feel as stubby and your character feels like they have momentum behind their attacks. Ryu feels so janky...

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

He's pretty bad right now compared to the first beta. He's been heavily nerfed since then. But that seems to be all I hear about every character. It looks like that's the direction Capcom is going in. If it's considered good or cheap then nerf it or remove it.

It's just not that fun to play. If they want to take away combos then make these buttons, throws, and short combos hurt. But even those are pretty weak now. So we're just poking each other with pillows now?

I know I know, it's not done yet. But man I'm really afraid this is how Capcom will start the game with.

And that's the problem people have. They got attached to the 1st beta. They keep comparing Ryu to how he was then instead of looking at what he has now. I've played Ryu tons in the 1st beta and I've been playing him nonstop now. The complaints are so overblown. In this build, some of the things Ryu has:
-Good damage (He does good damage while doing a good amount of stun)
-Decent normals
-Good amount of links
-Reliable anti-air
-decent reversal
-Good v-trigger that he can cancel into off of any normal
-Good critical art that has numerous ways you can combo into

Has Ryu lost things since the 1st beta? Yeah. Does he have issues? Yeah (namely some normal being a bit too stubby) but its really not as bad as people make it seem. He's still a pretty decent character, imo. Again, try not to just focus on what he doesn't have and look at what he does. Anyway, this might all be pointless considering they can just revert all of his changes for release.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Wait, someone who's played Laura for an hour and a half says she's terrible? Guess she's officially unplayable, guys.

No one said to take his opinion for granted and we don't know how the game or the character will shape up or if this is the final balance pass, but what I saw looked objectively bad. Her normals having shit range isn't a matter of opinion, whether they have use or not is a different story.

 

[K.Sabot]

Go watch DeFeetLee if you want good Laura play from a guy who does a ton of work in the lab on characters before making verdicts.

http://www.twitch.tv/dafeetlee

 

[vg260]

Hadn't played Karin until now. No idea what to do.

 

[aly]

Man that 1st Beta build was too good. People wanna go back to those beautiful summer days.

 

[Lulubop]

No one said to take his opinion for granted and we don't know how the game or the character will shape up or if this is the final balance pass, but what I saw looked objectively bad. Her normals having shit range isn't a matter of opinion, whether they have use or not is a different story.

David said this yesterday

https://twitter.com/ultradavid/status/662548676212948992

Like even if she's not bad, she feels limited. Max has been saying the same.

 

[BiggNife]

No one said to take his opinion for granted and we don't know how the game or the character will shape up or if this is the final balance pass, but what I saw looked objectively bad. Her normals having shit range isn't a matter of opinion, whether they have use or not is a different story.

She doesn't have the best normals but both her projectile and her v skill provide ways of getting in. Mediocre normals does not automatically mean a character is terrible.

 

[cackhyena]

And that's the problem people have. They got attached to the 1st beta. They keep comparing Ryu to how he was then instead of looking at what he has now. I've played Ryu tons in the 1st beta and I've been playing him nonstop now. The complaints are so overblown. In this build, some of the things Ryu has:
-Good damage (He does good damage while doing a good amount of stun)
-Solid normals
-Good amount of links
-Reliable anti-air
-decent reversal
-Good v-trigger that he can cancel into off of any normal
-Good critical art that has numerous ways you can combo into

Has Ryu lost things since the 1st beta? Yeah, but its really not as bad as people make it seem. He's still a solid character, imo. Again, try not to just focus on what he doesn't have and look at what he does.

He's lost some stuff I wish was there for variety's sake. After playing Ken, he's just plain as hell.

 

[ShaperofStories]

No one said to take his opinion for granted and we don't know how the game or the character will shape up or if this is the final balance pass, but what I saw looked objectively bad. Her normals having shit range isn't a matter of opinion, whether they have use or not is a different story.

I saw at least two people lament the fact that they won't be using her now based on his opinion. Your personal observations of the character are fine, but I think giving up on a character without even trying them is silly.

 

[Stone Ocean]

She doesn't have the best normals but both her projectile and her v skill provide ways of getting in. Mediocre normals does not automatically mean a character is terrible.

It's something to worry about when your character's gameplan seems to be like 80% normals.

I saw at least two people lament the fact that they won't be using her now based on his opinion. Your personal observations of the character are fine, but I think giving up on a character without even trying them is silly.

Agreed. People need to worry about having fun, not tiers. I'm disappointed in Laura because she seems boring, not because she seems weak.

 

[Secret Character]

So, chip kos are back. Got chipped out by a shinkuu hadoken.

 

[Talonz]

Infiltration just officially said Laura sucks in her current incarnation on his stream. He likes Laura as a character but her tools aren't that good.

 

[Stone Ocean]

So, chip kos are back. Got chipped out by a shinkuu hadoken.

Super chip kills have always been a thing

 

[Anbec7]

So, chip kos are back. Got chipped out by a shinkuu hadoken.

I believe they only work on supers.
But you don't get KO'ed bye normals or EX's

 

[Xevren]

So, chip kos are back. Got chipped out by a shinkuu hadoken.

Can only be chipped out by supers, always been this way.

 

[K.Sabot]

Feels like Chun's throw got a damage buff.

or just half the characters in this beta are low lifers.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

He's saying she's awful lolol

"Laura too bad"

She is Sean's sis, after all.

 

[cackhyena]

So, chip kos are back. Got chipped out by a shinkuu hadoken.

That always chipped. All Supers do.

 

[Stone Ocean]

She is Sean's sis, after all.

This is before 3s, she should be good dang it

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

He's lost some stuff I wish was there for variety's sake. After playing Ken, he's just plain as hell.

I think that's a fair opinion to have and I can understand it. I just think the people who are acting like the character is garbage now are overreacting a bit.

 

[Zissou]

Feels like Chun's throw got a damage buff.

or just half the characters in this beta are low lifers.

130, same as always.

 

[Akibared]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMdZ2KGv_BI

My favorite track so far!

 

[BiggNife]

Remember, pros are always right when it comes to their opinions on whether or not a character is good

(this post is a joke, please don't take it seriously)

 

[cackhyena]

I think that's a fair opinion to have and I can understand it. I just think the people who are acting like the character is garbage now are overreacting a bit.

Yeah, he's still a tank.

 

[MrDaravon]

Okay, I'm apparently done with SFV Betas until they let us do training mode for some period of time at least. It's just instantly throwing me into match after match (which is good) against people who have thousands of fucking LP where I just get immediately fucking destroyed (which is not good). I don't even have a full grasp of the game's basic mechanics (I only have gotten to play like 3 matches across all of the betas, with a character that's not even in this one) and the game won't let me spend literally more than 2 goddamn seconds trying learn them. I don't think I've straight rage-quit a game in years, but holy shit

 

[ShaperofStories]

Remember, pros are always right when it comes to their opinions on whether or not a character is good

(this post is a joke, please don't take it seriously)

This Is What I was thinking of when I was reading the responses to Infiltration's take on her.

 

[Jawmuncher]

I didn't mind Laura. But yeah her range is pretty bad.