Ya Catalyst CP and iPresetInterval. The subtitle issue stopped after that revert, for now D:
Fallout 4 PC Performance Thread
- Thread starter Hip Hop
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Those with a 970 or higher, and getting bad drops... please consider trying this tweak. It worked for me and I am holding 60 even all through Lexington and the power plant.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3sdyu7/the_old_ini_tweaks_still_work/
also use default FOV of 80, as it seems raising it really affects performance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3sdyu7/the_old_ini_tweaks_still_work/
also use default FOV of 80, as it seems raising it really affects performance.
texhnolyze
Banned
80, iirc.
80. You can just delete the FOV lines to reset it to default, they're not there innately.
quick response, `yup thats the one, tahnskl a lot.
i just press the button beside the 1 to enter to the console, and then i just type /fov xx (xx= value)
Didn't see any change. Still stutters.
Tried them out, and it feels the same. Unless fov 80 really does make a big difference.
Sanctuary
Member
Has there been an explanation why on some systems borderless window runs the game a lot smoother than the default fullscreen?
Makes absolutely no sense to me why this is happening, but now I've found a really easy way to show why the so called 60fps doesn't feel like it at all, and it's all jittery.
I can go to pretty much any area that has a stationary "go here" mark and strafe left and right facing it. It should stay stationary right? For me it doesn't. Strafing causes it to do what looks like a super exaggerating flicker/ghosting effect as though there's some strange interlacing of frames (as though it's 30fps x 2) is happening. The entire game runs this way.
Of course, switching to borderless windowed mode fixes this, and it's a solid 60fps without it feeling like a sloppy 30fps. I even disabled vsync to see if that was the cause, and it's not.
Makes absolutely no sense to me why this is happening, but now I've found a really easy way to show why the so called 60fps doesn't feel like it at all, and it's all jittery.
I can go to pretty much any area that has a stationary "go here" mark and strafe left and right facing it. It should stay stationary right? For me it doesn't. Strafing causes it to do what looks like a super exaggerating flicker/ghosting effect as though there's some strange interlacing of frames (as though it's 30fps x 2) is happening. The entire game runs this way.
Of course, switching to borderless windowed mode fixes this, and it's a solid 60fps without it feeling like a sloppy 30fps. I even disabled vsync to see if that was the cause, and it's not.
Yup, same experience. Strafing left or right while look at a texture is the easiest way to tell. This shit is in fallout 3 and NV as well. Lessened with mods of course. Gamebryo never changes.
Sanctuary
Member
Rivatuner doesn't even want to work with the game either. Doesn't matter if I set it up for the Fallout4.exe or Fallout4Launcher.exe either.
Also, I don't know that it's just a Gamebryo thing. Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Fallout:NV do not do this. They all run without issues for me.
You sure you enabled non adaptive standard vsync in the nvidia control panel? A 60 fps rtss lock + adaptive causes screen tearing, standard won't. Use standard vsync or remove the rtss limit for adaptive. Also make sure your .ini settings have stuck, some revert if you open the settings menu in the launcher.
Sanctuary
Member
What are you having RTSS point to for the profile? It doesn't even detect the game for me, or at the very least it doesn't feel like it's doing anything in the game, and the fps overlay isn't showing up. RTSS works fine with the other games I've used it with.
In borderless windows, Fraps doesn't actually appear to be working correctly either. It stays stuck at 62fps, even though my screen is 60hz, and it never fluctuates, even in areas where you can tell there is a difference. When running in fullscreen however, Fraps works like it normally does.
Smushroomed
Banned
Can someone please see if this simple 21:9 fix actually works?
Have you tried adding `-CustomResolution:enabled -r3440x1440x32` to your launch options? It runs at 3440x1440 with no HUD problems for me.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidema...allout_4_ultrawide_support_review_waf/cwx8xyf
Have you tried adding `-CustomResolution:enabled -r3440x1440x32` to your launch options? It runs at 3440x1440 with no HUD problems for me.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidema...allout_4_ultrawide_support_review_waf/cwx8xyf
I've set mine to global since I play all games with 60 fps limit + standard nvidia vsync. Try that and try resetting rtss global profile to default, but just targeting fallout4.exe should work. Works in both fullscreen and borderless windowed.
neogaffer1
Banned
man this game sucks in terms of optimization
i have a 765m with a mobile i7. for refrence, maxing out MGSV at 900p gave me 30 fps with drops. Keeping in mind that MGSV looks like MGSV and Fallout 4 looks like Fallout 4, assuming that maxing out FO4 would end up with basically a locked 900p30, maybe with dips, right?
WRONG
disabling v-sync using the ini file and using RivaTuner locking the fps at 30, even at medium preset and then going into advanced and still dialing some stuff back, it's basically sometimes 30 with lots of drops.
like even shadow of mordor arguably looked nicer than this and it ran (slightly) better at higher settings.
i have a 765m with a mobile i7. for refrence, maxing out MGSV at 900p gave me 30 fps with drops. Keeping in mind that MGSV looks like MGSV and Fallout 4 looks like Fallout 4, assuming that maxing out FO4 would end up with basically a locked 900p30, maybe with dips, right?
WRONG
disabling v-sync using the ini file and using RivaTuner locking the fps at 30, even at medium preset and then going into advanced and still dialing some stuff back, it's basically sometimes 30 with lots of drops.
like even shadow of mordor arguably looked nicer than this and it ran (slightly) better at higher settings.
BoosterDuck
Banned
Todd better be revving up those updates
AndyMoogle
Member
That's stupid. Why didn't they make medium low and then put a proper medium between low and high?
Doesn't work for me in both borderless or fullscreen. Maybe this guy has monitor scaling turned on and it's stretching 2560x1440 to fill the screen. His screens look a bit stretched.
Running pretty smoothly now, the 60fps frame rate limit has helped quite a bit, as I haven't been stuck at any terminals since, and no real noticeable stuttering.
Though yesterday, at least on one occasion, I got the dialog bug (dialog being cut before it finishes, and lipsync going out the window), so I don't think that's related to the "speedbug" or too high of a frame rate. Seems to be a bug with the engine.
Only ini tweaks I've done are mouse and FoV related.
Running the same GPU but with Core i7 6700k. Getting pretty steady 60fps (frame rate locked in Catalyst control center) @ 1080p, with God rays on low, shadow distance on medium, rest on ultra.
Though yesterday, at least on one occasion, I got the dialog bug (dialog being cut before it finishes, and lipsync going out the window), so I don't think that's related to the "speedbug" or too high of a frame rate. Seems to be a bug with the engine.
Only ini tweaks I've done are mouse and FoV related.
Running the same GPU but with Core i7 6700k. Getting pretty steady 60fps (frame rate locked in Catalyst control center) @ 1080p, with God rays on low, shadow distance on medium, rest on ultra.
paperspace
Member
So it seems physics are only tied to the framerate when you're not using v-sync?
144fps v-sync looks normal to me. Unlocked and everything breaks.
144fps v-sync looks normal to me. Unlocked and everything breaks.
So I have a 970 FTW+ and an i7 3770k. Had the game at everything maxed out, 1080p. Ran great aside from weird framerate jittering in certain spots. Problem is, when it happened, it was really bad.
Unlocked the framerate in the FalloutPrefs config file and then turned both Godrays and Shadow quality to high instead of ultra. Game runs flawlessly now. Figured I'd share in case anyone else had the same problem.
Unlocked the framerate in the FalloutPrefs config file and then turned both Godrays and Shadow quality to high instead of ultra. Game runs flawlessly now. Figured I'd share in case anyone else had the same problem.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
Not sure, but I'd wager on it being a target for updates, considering how fast Bethesda worked on CPU optimisation after Skyrim came out and modders brought out a few quick fixes.
Angry Fork
Member
I'm getting stuck on loading screen now, tried multiple saves and none of them work. Googled around and people on reddit are having the problem also. Anyone else? I really hope I don't have to re-do 7 hours of gameplay =/
Going to try verifying cache, if that doesn't work will uninstall then reinstall I guess since there's no other choice that really sucks though if it comes to that.
edit - verifying cache seems to have fixed it for now, gonna backup my saves after every session just in case.
Going to try verifying cache, if that doesn't work will uninstall then reinstall I guess since there's no other choice that really sucks though if it comes to that.
edit - verifying cache seems to have fixed it for now, gonna backup my saves after every session just in case.
Smushroomed
Banned
Yup you're right scaling was on.
Does he OC anything? Looks like GPU Memory corruption.
The physics and game speed is tied to the ini tweak iFPSClamp I think, if you change that, it can break the engine.
paperspace
Member
Not sure about that, the game speeds up if I set iPresentInterval to 0 (with no iFPSclamp).
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
SilentRage47
Member
Well, Lexington it's a mess on my 970 @ 1080 Ultra(God rays low), 50-60 fps but a hell lot of stutter and jitter. Adaptive vsync feels smoother in that section of the game but man the input lag it's horrible. I'll try lowering shadow quality
Sanctuary
Member
Have you tried borderless windowed mode? There are points in the game where running it in fullscreen feels buttery smooth, but then as soon as I enter a hallway of all places, it feels like the framrate is cut in half, even though it still shows 60fps. In borderless windowed though, that issue doesn't happen at all. I can't explain it.
On my GTX 780, I noticed the profile was set for multi display by default (clean install), and I wondered if that was the cause of this problem, but it's not. Setting it up for single display and performance doesn't change anything for me.
I ran borderless windowed mode on my 970 just now and had noticeable performance drop from 60 to an unstable 40-50 in Sanctuary
Is there something else you need to do when enabling borderless?
Lord Phol
Member
I can't play in windowed at all on my 980 ti. It just limits my fps to 30-40 no matter what other visual changes I make :s. Fullscreen works though (kind of). I also have the problem where certain areas (mostly towns) like Lexington just takes a dump on my fps, going from 85 to 30ish.
Are there any good ways to limit fps in the ini or is changing ur screen hz in display properties still the best way to go?
Are there any good ways to limit fps in the ini or is changing ur screen hz in display properties still the best way to go?
CyberPunked
Member
Is there any solution to the random drops of GPU usage even when the frame cap isn't being reached?
It can't possibly be a case of CPU bottlenecking, I have a 3930k @4.8Ghz...
It can't possibly be a case of CPU bottlenecking, I have a 3930k @4.8Ghz...
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Download and use Riva Tuner Statistics Server to limit to 60 fps. As a side benefit RTSS is generally pretty decent at helping with frame pacing I believe.
Massive Nights
Member
Personally I have CPU usage drops. Not randomly, but every time I use a scope.
Irritating because 90% of the time I run the game at 60fps through a cap. In Lexington I got a minimum of 40fps, but it remained very smooth and responsive. Average in Lexington was 60fps. This is while running it on Ultra including godrays at 1080p.
To this point I was pleased. Until I tried using a scope. This literally cuts my framerate in half or lower. As soon as I use a scope in certain areas in any case the cpu usage drops from about 50% to 24%.
Tried lowering my settings in every aspect, but while using a scope this does not help.
Thought it could have something to do with heavy foliage and a lot of transparency, but the same thing can happen even if I look at en empty hill with one bush on it.
What else? In one area where the framerate drops to let's say 40 it remains smooth and responsive. In another where it drops to the same value it feels like it's running below 20.
i5 2500K @4.3GHz
16GB RAM
GTX 970
Win 10
Latest drivers.
EDIT:
Ok. For me disabling the in-game V-sync by setting iPresentInterval to 0 (fallout4.ini in "My Documents/My Games/Fallout4")and forcing it through Nvidia's drivers gave me a 5fps higher minimum while using the scope.
Setting Godrays to "low" gives me 52fps as a minimum while using the scope. Unoptimized godrays much?
EDIT 2:
Godrays set to off = 72fps minimum while using a scope. Everything else is on Ultra.
For the godrays to turn off I had to click the "low preset" setting in the launcher and then max the other settings individually.
okay, I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'm going to ask anyway. okay so I finally got the game up and running after installing the latest drivers and unpacking it. after skipping threw everything to see how the game runs, I then went to disable vsync (I have a Gsync monitor so no need for it) then I went back into the game to see if I gain any performance, I gain abit more fps but not that much. anyway my problem is that I'm stuck in first person. and before I switch off vsync in the ini, it was fine. so I went back and switch vsync on thinking it was turning causing the problem. but alas I can't go into 3rd person. so yeah any idea on how do fix this???
Lord Phol
Member
bltn
Member
Thanks for this. Will be rolling back when I get home. Finally got the game running at a "smooth" 60 fps 95% of the time, but as soon as there's a drop it gets jumpy as fuck, suggesting that gsync is not working as intended.
SilentRage47
Member
I tried borderless windowed mode, too much stutter in my case. Fullscreen without vsync and framerate fixed at 60 it's the best option at the moment.
Thanks, Pagan! Is this CPU or GPU game? I can OC my i5 if it's needed.
Hmm check your iNumHWThreads and other threading related settings
According to this comment and all the other posts it links to, this setting shouldn't do anyting at all for in-game performance.
Is it possible that behavior changed in Fallout 4 from Skyrim, however? I see mention of VMMap which might be one way to test it.
It might also be possible to benchmark a very specifiic location -- low framerate vs. high framerate changing only that parameter to see if it really makes a difference.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
what does this mean? i have a 290 and had drops to 30's in Diamond City. is the CPU being over/under used or something? can i get a link to the DF article.