Marsipolami
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cheers. it's triggered by getting him to like me, right?
edit: ok nvm, found out about it, and the other companion quests on a less spoilery site.
Fallout 4 |OT| Atom Bomb Baby
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edit: ok nvm, found out about it, and the other companion quests on a less spoilery site.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I'm finally home, so I sunk in an hour today. Started out impressed with the player character face editing (works really well IMO), then found myself bored shitless by the opening and pretty much everything in the early game. One hour in I quit and watched a movie.
I dunno. I know I'm being a sourpuss, and I fully intend to restart once I'm not forced to play on my TV monitor (basically once my PC monitor comes back from repair), and I don't want to shit up the thread with superb negativity, but the opening of the game had that same issue I had with Fallout 3 and Skyrim; every character so far is immediately forgettable, and spouts drab, unnatural dialogue. Like everything is just (and I know this will be the unpopular opinion) so lifeless and boring.
Playing in my comfort zone (see monitor) and a better mood will elevate my opinion I'm sure. And it's super dumb to judge a 50+ hour open world game on the first hour with hardly any exploring. But yeah; early impressions = butts.
The shooting felt pretty good though. And despite weirdass fucking stuttering that makes no sense at all given I'm playing @1080p on a fucking 6GB 980Ti, I actually think it looks pretty decent. Obviously rough animations, inconsistencies in the assets, and other jank you expect in a huge open world RPG. But man, sometimes I feel people forget how Skyrim looked, or gloss over the vanilla look due to mods. This is massively improved on basically every single front.
I dunno. I know I'm being a sourpuss, and I fully intend to restart once I'm not forced to play on my TV monitor (basically once my PC monitor comes back from repair), and I don't want to shit up the thread with superb negativity, but the opening of the game had that same issue I had with Fallout 3 and Skyrim; every character so far is immediately forgettable, and spouts drab, unnatural dialogue. Like everything is just (and I know this will be the unpopular opinion) so lifeless and boring.
Playing in my comfort zone (see monitor) and a better mood will elevate my opinion I'm sure. And it's super dumb to judge a 50+ hour open world game on the first hour with hardly any exploring. But yeah; early impressions = butts.
The shooting felt pretty good though. And despite weirdass fucking stuttering that makes no sense at all given I'm playing @1080p on a fucking 6GB 980Ti, I actually think it looks pretty decent. Obviously rough animations, inconsistencies in the assets, and other jank you expect in a huge open world RPG. But man, sometimes I feel people forget how Skyrim looked, or gloss over the vanilla look due to mods. This is massively improved on basically every single front.
Same happened with Skyrim.
"But in Arena it would take you months to go across the
procedurally generated, samey and boring
This exact same thing happened to me with the exact same chunk of flesh and I just sat there watching it thinking this exact same thing. Mine lasted a lot longer than this.
I don't mind this, but if you employ a narrative framework, adding a personal motivation allows for the player to follow the main story, when else he wouldn't.
Skyrim was was was filled with boring crap though, definitely a detriment. FO4s crap has been delightfully diverse and well spaced so far.
AlimNassor
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Yeah without the good writing and good rpg stuff. Still it's shockingly better then Fo3. Not even close to New Vegas but, nothing even the original fallouts are no where near New Vegas.
Blue Ninja
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I constantly keep imagining a game with Bethesda's worldbuilding and Obsidian's writing/mechanics. Such a boner.
Lanrutcon
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Blue Ninja
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Could they have picked a more annoying sound effect to play when Idiot Savant procs? I decided to pick it up, even with INT 6, after reading some of the comments here. Procced 4 times in the last half hour. :lol
glassgannon
Banned
theres far too much civilization here.
i want empty wastelands where theres storms and no cover from the monsters that lurk within.
everything is just too lively here.
also, finally got the upgraded silver shroud coat.
42 defense is awesome if you do the quest early.
but crap, im at almost 100 phys defense rnow .
Word
Similar for my guy - former military - special ops - also contract work and hits from a third party
Wife never knew about the details
boom, role play established
You could apply the same logic if you wanted to play a psychotic murderer - just because the game starts you with a spouse and child doesn't mean you have to play a family man/woman. Most of fictions most interesting characters have secrets.
25~ hours and I've had two
Blue Ninja
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I've read it's a decent investment, even if you're at INT 9 or 10. Just stay with the first level once you go over 5, or something.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The great dynamic weather struggle in open world games. Either rains once every blue moon, or like Wild Hunt every 10 minutes (and for seven months at a time).
No storm yet after 20 hours. Maybe they happen in specific areas?
I went to Diamond City but other than that I pretty much stayed in the north-west corner.
AlimNassor
Banned
God yes. One thing: the new UI sucks. Why change what was a good one last two games?
I don't mind it but I really miss Skyrim's map. :/
KillerDark
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I've had 2 in roughly 10 hours of gameplay.
What's wrong with the witcher one? Most of those monster hunts are contracts. They're job opportunities for Geralt. If he doesn't do it then oh well for that town. Also most of the contracts that were higher level had you hunt a monster out of town.
I had 3 in 4 hours, and they are horrid!.
First one I huddled in a radar station, the other 3 I just fast traveled out!
I am 30 hours in and I have to say, this is a colossal improvement over both Fallout 3 and Skyrim. Yes, you are still doing repetitive tasks during quests but the writing around them is much, much more interesting, making them an absolute joy to discover and play through. I also haven't encountered too many of Skyrim's 'collect 10 copies of item X because I said so' miscellaneous quests, there's always some interesting spin as to why you are doing whatever it is you are doing.
The main quest is actually interesting now, and the further you get into it the more interesting the moral choices become. I also really like the way you can't advance too far into all factions at the same time, which was pretty immersion breaking for me in Bethesda's previous games.
The downside to all of this is, of course, that this is no longer an RPG but a shooter with RPG elements, but honestly, the RPG elements in Fallout 3 and Skyrim were quite weak anyway, so their removal didn't bother me all that much. The exploration and quests are some of Bethesda's best, and this is all that matters to me.
The main quest is actually interesting now, and the further you get into it the more interesting the moral choices become. I also really like the way you can't advance too far into all factions at the same time, which was pretty immersion breaking for me in Bethesda's previous games.
The downside to all of this is, of course, that this is no longer an RPG but a shooter with RPG elements, but honestly, the RPG elements in Fallout 3 and Skyrim were quite weak anyway, so their removal didn't bother me all that much. The exploration and quests are some of Bethesda's best, and this is all that matters to me.
Incendiary
Banned
Most of the dynamic weather I've experienced has been while I'm at a settlement upgrading stuff. I don't know if it's coincidence or what, but I've had rain, fog, and the weird yellow radiation storm thing all happen in Sanctuary/Red Rocket, but not while I'm out exploring.
Lanrutcon
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I think I vastly prefer the less frequent. Witcher 3 got to a point where I would just meditate away the storms.
ChasingComets
Member
Man your game is weird because I see one every time I play the game.
That's about 3-4 for the 6-7 hours I played
RandomSeed
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I was bored for 10 hours before I remembered that the fun to be had was in just exploring and seeing what I could find. Some game stories grab you, while Bethesda stories slap you...on the forehead.
Intheflorsh
Banned
Is there any convenient way to find out where a companion is after you've dismissed them?
His daughter was missing and clearly in danger. Killing monsters for 200 coins shouldn't really be his priority.
It's nitpicky but I just hate urgency in open world games.
Plus, really, it's 200 years after the war. Even with nukes, a nuclear winter, mutations, and genetic manipulation, after 200 years civilization would have rebounded a lot. Just think of the world now vs in 1815. Still a little annoyed it's so brown when it should be very green, but I can deal with that (plus...mods).
On POIs, as someone who lives in Boston area, very dense POIs actually work here. Mojave is sparse, Boston Metro is not. Aside from State/Federally protected land there's very little unused space here, which is a big reason housing prices are skyrocketing here. Factor in that Concord to Boston in real life would be a 30minute+ drive easy if there was no traffic and you then merge that down to walkable in 5 minutes and yeah, there'd be a lot of stuff around.
I'm a little sad they left out Somerville itself (I see 'somerville place', but not the city of Somerville), but it was kinda amusing to me to get the Cambridge PD message and know where to go just from the fact I live in Cambridge right now
As for my character, playing a lady, I think I'm going with 'Baby was husband's with another woman, he was an abusive monster who deserved what happened and I had no attachment to the child outside of seeing it as some sort of mental escape. Only played nice at government decree. Apocalypse has given me a clean break and the two that took the baby are free to have it.'. Haven't actually had too many references to the baby so far in game, so it's worked out.
MMaRsu
Banned
More special than this pos. At least in previous games you could actually make choices and decide things.
Here you just say yes to everyone in the end.
Put more in to it then!
arts&crafts
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Just did some companion research and looks like
has the best perk.
I gotta find this guy
Robert MacCready
Kill Shot :The player character has 20% greater chance to hit an enemy's head in V.A.T.S.
I gotta find this guy
TheAssist
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But I would argue that this plays into the weak point of the bethesda games. They are not good at telling good stories and have them presented in a way that is engaging (compare Fallout 4 to the Witcher 3 in that regard).
They are however very good at creating worlds that are just fun to explore and mess around in. So the more far off that goal, the more it plays into the strong aspects of Bethesda's game design.
I've played for 12 hours so far and have not set a foot into diamond city and I cant bother with the main quest. I mean all that stuff could have happened decades ago as far as I am aware so far. Whats the point of randomly asking people who dont know me and have never seen me if they know where my son is. FO 3 had the same problem.
But in FO3 I completely ignored the main quest and after like 20 hours I just ran into my dad. That was kinda cool and made much more sense than asking around like that (in my head at least).
In my opinion they could completely let go of the very personal motivation and let the player just get caught up in the greater things that are happening in the wasteland. And you find out about that by just being that wanderer.
The whole opening of the game was just so weak that I dont want that to be my main motivation, but the game doesnt want me to have another motivation for the main quest (so far), which sucks.
One occurred for me in early morning hours at Diamond City. It's visually pretty cool, though I've been spoiled by the amazing storms from Mad Max.
I guess... it will take a while to get to the perks I want though, and I'll have to ignore a bunch others. :/
I collect every type of Nuka Cola for no reason at all.
the_batman
Banned
nah, it's already easy enough to hit someone in the head if your weapon has decent accuracy.
arts&crafts
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Cherrys are decent stimpacks at least early on
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