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[Talax]

Interesting question. FWIW, you can stream the games.

Edit: How does the emulation work without any fw update? @dark

I just wanna somehow play Shadow Hearts on my Vita. XD
Although, if streaming works it might be possible.

Do we have anyone on this forum who bought the bundle and also has a vita? They could check.

 

[Andrefpvs]

I sure hope someone picks up that phone.







Because LewieP and I freaking called it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185557871&postcount=244

 

[FranXico]

I'm hoping it's only taking this long because they want most or all of the PS1 & PS2 titles already available on different platforms digitally to work well & be available day 1. Though I guess some of those could have more of a problem with licensing and whatnot and not all that much to do with problematic emulation.

Licensing has always been what holds back legacy digital games on PSN.

 

[SictorVullivan]

Edit: How does the emulation work without any fw update? @dark

Support was probably stealth added in 3.0. Must of been.

 

[InsaneTiger]

It seems like those games are exclusive to owners of SW Battlefront bundle (even though they were available for PS3 some time ago).

Fuck :/

EDIT: I think Sony is quiet about that, because MS has better solution than them - emulating newer console. Or maybe I'm wrong. Still, I was suprised to read the title of the article at first.

PS2 easier to emulate than PS3. Don't know if I would say better but different instead.

 

[Insane Metal]

Damn @ the comparisons. It got much better

 

[FranXico]

Interesting question. FWIW, you can stream the games.

Edit: How does the emulation work without any fw update? @dark

FWIW, you can run an emulator as an application, it doesn't need to be integrated as part of the firmware.

Otherwise, it might have been introduced as a stealth 3.0 feature.

 

[amnesiac]

My favorite PS1 and PS2 games are games that have virtually no chance of ever being released again (licensing issues), so I'm really only interested if there's disc support.

Someone also said that a lot of those older PS1/PS2 classics would likely not be readily available on PS4 since PS4 was probably not involved in the original contracts or something, so that's disappointing if true.

 

[Apathy]

Support was probably stealth added in 3.0. Must of been.

Quick! Everyone start putting in ps2 and ps1 game discs in your ps4s and see if anything happens!

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I just want Ico and SotC for the PS4.



SONY, please!

Maybe they can remaster SOTC and not fuck it up this time

 

[HTupolev]

PS4 just can't handle smooth clouds. PS2 still alpha alpha.

 

[SictorVullivan]

Quick! Everyone start putting in ps2 and ps1 game discs in your ps4s and see if anything happens!

If only that was the case!

 

[Netherscourge]

I haven't read the full article, so forgive me but...

Is this LIVE in the current firmware or still in beta?

 

[entremet]

I'm pretty sure my Wal-mart still has the GTA Trilogy pack and the AC/DC Rock Band track pack for PS2

Talk about an embarrassment of riches ;P

 

[JP]

Watching Jedi Startfighetr on Live From Playstation and it's looking pretty good to me.

 

[TwIsTeD]

As an owner of the slightly less awful now that I own it Vader PS4 I can vouch that it really is God-tier emulation.

Bravo Sony!

 

[OneUh8]

what the fuck

 

[Andrefpvs]

They aren't going to enable disk support. It will be PS1 and PS2 classics just like on PS3 and Vita(for PS1 classics and PSP)

There is a precedent against your argument, though:

Every PS3 is compatible with PS1 discs.

 

[FranXico]

Is this LIVE in the current firmware or still in beta?

These emulated games can already be played by those who bought the Star Wars bundle.

 

[The Last One]

WTF am I reading? How does a game become better than a clearly superior one because of trophies of all things?

Trophies represent 50% of the game's fun and Chrono Trigger was only 15% better than Chrono Cross.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I hope they have the PS4/PS3/PSVita crossbuy system up and running day and date of official BC release. I think its obvious they will support that

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

Do these support trophies as well? If so, that old rumor is definitely true and this will most likely be formally announced at PSX

No. PS Now is for PS3 games. PS2 and PS1 games would never be on PS Now.

Also PS Now was never meant to solve backwards compatibility.

Makes no sense to not have PS1 and PS2 games added to the PSNow library.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

There is no way Sony made a PS2 emulator for just 3 games, PSX seems to be the most likely place to announce a bunch of PS2 classics.

 

[DryvBy]

PSX is gonna be amazing.

 

[Aceofspades]

Emulating best console of all time with largest library.

Interesting.

 

[Deepo]

That FPS increase pleases me greatly. Bring on some real classics!

 

[LewieP]

I sure hope someone picks up that phone.







Because LewieP and I freaking called it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185557871&postcount=244

Seemed kind of obvious to me at the time tbh. I guess anyone surprised by this revelation missed the original announcement, or just didn't think it through.

 

[NIGHT-]

I really hope people lower their expectations. There's no way you're gonna be able to pop in a old disc and play these. It's a safe bet to expect to pay $10 for these, but it's still gonna be awesome

 

[Floody]

Interesting question. FWIW, you can stream the games.

Edit: How does the emulation work without any fw update? @dark

Smuggled in with the stability updates.

 

[eerik9000]

is this an abandonment is psnow?

Why would it? If anything, then this will lead to PS2 games being added to PS Now in the future. PS Now is a cloud gaming service, not backwards compatibilty, if that's what you meant.

 

[Newtype-001]

Do these support trophies as well? If so, that old rumor is definitely true and this will most likely be formally announced at PSX

It does, watch the video at the link.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

This will probably be the big announcement at the Playstation show.

 

[Laranja]

This is pretty awesome!

I'm really hoping they'll let us use PS2 discs, since I really want to replay Silent Hill 2 and 3, and after the HD Collection debacle, I know there's no way Konami is rereleasing those on the PSN Store.

 

[e_i]

I guess Sony will announce this at their event in December.

 

[SictorVullivan]

Do these support trophies as well? If so, that old rumor is definitely true and this will most likely be formally announced at PSX



Makes no sense to not have PS1 and PS2 games added to the PSNow library.

If PS1/PS2 games were to appear on PS Now why would Sony go to the trouble of creating an emulator for those games?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Wow, just realized. FF9 wouldn't suck ass frame rate and loading time wise :O

 

[BlackBuzzard]

I really hope people lower their expectations. There's no way you're gonna be able to pop in a old disc and play these. It's a safe bet to expect to pay $10 for these, but it's still gonna be awesome

I think Sony will do crossbuy but like you said popping in a disc and playing old PS2 games is out of the question.

 

[CoG]

Would be megaton is the announce at PSX BC with 100% PS2 catalog and works with discs.

 

[HTupolev]

Wow, just realized. FF9 wouldn't suck ass frame rate and loading time wise :O

FF9 isn't a PS2 game.

 

[Outrun]

Emulating best console of all time with largest library.

Interesting.

The SNES is being emulated on PS4?

 

[Hades Hotgun]

Do these support trophies as well? If so, that old rumor is definitely true and this will most likely be formally announced at PSX



Makes no sense to not have PS1 and PS2 games added to the PSNow library.

It makes complete sense when you consider that Sony has to pay for the continuous bandwidth to stream those games rather than allowing a one time purchase with no upkeep. A local emulator is easier, but in the case of the PS3 not viable.

 

[jackissocool]

Do people really believe that if they buy a digital license for a game on one platform, they then have a lifetime license for that game on any subsequent platform on which the game is released?

It's the precedent Sony has set and I expect it to apply here as well.

 

[Mr. Nice_Guy]

It's the precedent Sony has set and I expect it to apply here as well.

Ditto

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Do people really believe that if they buy a digital license for a game on one platform, they then have a lifetime license for that game on any subsequent platform on which the game is released?

Uhhh this is how Sony has done things since PSP and PS3.

 

[Inuhanyou]

There is a precedent against your argument, though:

Every PS3 is compatible with PS1 discs.

Uh, i didn't say anything about that.

This whole thing has only been about PS Classics(aka digital ISO wrappers) from the very start.

PS1 and PS2 classics will be supported, that's what Sony's new policy is from what i've gathered of their actions.

 

[poncle]

WTF???

Hope it's good enough to run tri-Ace games this time around, those titles are a pain in the neck to run on non-native hardware.

 

[kabel]

FF9 isn't a PS2 game.

A PS2 emulator would also be a PS1 emulator.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

If PS1/PS2 games were to appear on PS Now why would Sony go to the trouble of creating an emulator for those games?

It makes complete sense when you consider that Sony has to pay for the continuous bandwidth to stream those games rather than allowing a one time purchase with no upkeep. A local emulator is easier, but in the case of the PS3 not viable.

I'believe the purpose of PSNow is to be the "netflix" of videogames. It is not to provide BC to the PS4. PSNow is compatible with PS3, PSV, Sony and Samsung TVS. It's supposed to come to more TVs, iOS, and Android IIRC.

If what you guys are implying was Sony's true end goal, PSNow would not be compatible with any of the above, especially not the PS3.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Gradius V and Einhander plz!

 

[Inuhanyou]

WTF???

Hope it's good enough to run tri-Ace games this time around, those titles are a pain in the neck to run on non-native hardware.

This could basically herald a Star Ocean 3 PS2 Classics release with actual HD res :O

OH MY STARZ